162 gr AP reloadable with 7.62x39mm?
Harry Wynne
Can the 162 gr AP bullet (.308 dia) be made up safely into a 7.62x39mm
load? Lee's table goes up to 150 gr jacketed bullet for the 7.62x39
Russian shell. Is there a published load for this bullet? Any
opinions on what to do, since I have not found any economical AP rounds
for the 7.62? Thanks.
Harry
Fasteddie3
You wrote:
Between seating this very long bullet halfway to the base of the cartridge to
maintain acceptable overall length, and a maximum velocity (assuming pressures
acceptable in an SKS or AK) of perhaps 1700 fps., and the poor accuracy you
could expect from an undersized bullet that will not slug-up to fit the barrel,
and this seems like an exercise in futility. I understand that the performance
of military AP ammo in this caliber is decent, but this is the wrong projectile
in every way for this cartridge.
And, not to be snide, but what do you need armor-piercing ammunition for, in
the first place? The deer in you neighborhood wearing Second Chance vests?
One mans humble opinion...
Ed Arnold
JBright469
#Can the 162 gr AP bullet (.308 dia) be made up safely into a 7.62x39mm load?<
yes it could however there are 2 problems involved with doing so
1) it would be illeagal
7.62x39 is considered a handgun caliber by BATF since there's
a few AR variant pistols around chambered in 7.62x39
thats the reason steel core 7.62 ammo is no longer imported
2)accuracy would suffer as the 7.62x39 bullet is nominally .311
in a cast plinking load you'd probably get an acceptable gas seal
on firing and get by
with a heavy jacketed military AP projectile like you propose
I believe you'd get quite a bit of gas leakage affecting accuracy
HTH
Jim B
Prichard
# but what do you need armor-piercing ammunition for, in
# the first place? The deer in you neighborhood wearing Second Chance vests?
#
# One mans humble opinion...
# Ed Arnold
Wouldn't 7.62X39 penetrate a 2nd Chance vest any way? And the 2nd ammendment doesn't
say a thing about hunting.
--
"Only hits count."
Jonmaddog
from what i've read, its illegal to sell but not to make and posess.
Michael Justice
In article <6k57qb$p...@xring.cs.umd.edu> you write:
#Can the 162 gr AP bullet (.308 dia) be made up safely into a 7.62x39mm
#Russian shell. Is there a published load for this bullet? Any
#opinions on what to do, since I have not found any economical AP rounds
#for the 7.62? Thanks.
#Harry
It's illegal. ATF ruled that the 7.62x39 round is a "pistol" round,
after Olympic Arms came out with an AR-15 variant handgun in that
caliber (the OA-93). This is why the Chinese steel-core ammo was
banned from importation in 1994. If I recall correctly, the bullet
you are thinking of using has an all-steel core, and so it would be
a felony to make 7.62x39 ammunition with it.
Check the FAQ for more information. http://www.recguns.com/IIG1.html
Penalties aren't mentioned, but I think they're up to either five or
ten years in prison, with the possibility of large fines being imposed
on you in addition to the prison sentence. If you can navigate through
the ATF web site, you should be able to find them there.
Have a day,
-- Michael. (Vote Libertarian!)
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Devin
# It's illegal. ATF ruled that the 7.62x39 round is a "pistol" round,
# after Olympic Arms came out with an AR-15 variant handgun in that
# caliber (the OA-93). This is why the Chinese steel-core ammo was
# banned from importation in 1994. If I recall correctly, the bullet
# you are thinking of using has an all-steel core, and so it would be
# a felony to make 7.62x39 ammunition with it.
#
# Check the FAQ for more information. http://www.recguns.com/IIG1.html
# Penalties aren't mentioned, but I think they're up to either five or
# ten years in prison, with the possibility of large fines being imposed
# on you in addition to the prison sentence. If you can navigate through
# the ATF web site, you should be able to find them there.
Due to the TC pistols, how is it that .30-06 AP is legal anyway? Also,
why isn't SS109 considered armor piercing by ATF... (enough of a lead
core to be considered normal?)
Devin
William Gnass
If you really want to load AP just take some 150 gr. 7.62 x 54
Nagant and pull the bullets. They are all steel core and they are
the right diameter .311. Will
Al S.
According to the BATF website, it is illegal for importers, distributors
and dealers to sell, but not for private individuals. Of course, there are
state laws that may differ.
Jonmaddog <jonm...@aol.com> wrote in article
<6k7so9$2...@xring.cs.umd.edu>...
# from what i've read, its illegal to sell but not to make and posess.
#
#
Jonmaddog
i'm sure if we all went to the web sight we would see that only making the
bullets (projuctiles) is illegal
http://www.recguns.com/IIG1.html