Webley MkVI 45 ACP info needed
me
I have a Webley Mk VI chambered for .45 ACP. I use full moon clips but I'd
like to know if I can shoot 45 Long colt ammo if I use flush seated
wadcutters, or if I shorten the brass?
I need to know if there is too much clearance behind the rear face of the
cylinder without the clips to use the 45 Colt stuff.
Also anyone with Webley facts...email me. I'm researching a magazine
article.
Mike Beliveau
mlb...@epix.net That's MLB one DKS...I'll never mix "L's" and
"1's" again!!!
ROB19TH
If your Webley has been converted to use half/full moon clips, then the gap
between the rear face of the cylinder and the recoil plate is too large to use
cartidge brass with *normal* size rim thickness. My old references list
original Webley brass as having .040 inch rim thickness; Colt revolver rims at
.060" and .45AutoRim at .090 inches. Obviously the headspace on a converted
Webley is too great for anything less than .090 -- it's not dangerous to try
to use shortened .45 Colt cases, but the firing pin will not strike it
correctly. The best answer IMHO is to use Remington's .45 Auto Rim cases.
They are still available from Midway and cost less than .45 Colt cases.
Remington-Peters invented the Auto Rim cartridge in 1920 to be used in WWI
revolvers originally designed to use half-moon clips and .45 Auto cases.
My biggest problem with the .45 Webley (converted) is something I just
found out about recently. Apparently the cylinder throats are smaller than
the forcing cone. I had gone to the trouble of loading .456 bullets (Lee's
mold for Ruger Old Army) to fix the problem of shooting .452 bullets through a
.455 bore, but had never checked the cylinder throats. A recent magazine
article (can't recall which one) informed me of the cylinder throat design on
the old revolver. I now have to decide if I want to fool witb having the
cylinder throats reamed out to proper dimensions. My Webley is of WWI vintage
with little finish (definitely not a collectors piece, especially after the
half-moon clip alteration), but the lock work rivals that of $800 Italian
imports. Lots of fun to shoot.
Robert Chiles
dmal...@earthlink.net
On 23 Oct 1997 20:10:48 -0400, mlb...@epix.net (me) wrote:
#I have a Webley Mk VI chambered for .45 ACP. I use full moon clips but I'd
#like to know if I can shoot 45 Long colt ammo if I use flush seated
#wadcutters, or if I shorten the brass?
#
#I need to know if there is too much clearance behind the rear face of the
#cylinder without the clips to use the 45 Colt stuff.
#
#Also anyone with Webley facts...email me. I'm researching a magazine
#article.
if your webley will take 45 with full moon clips it will also take 45
auto rim and it will not take 45 long colt
you have to hunt for auto rim brass i found lots of ads in gunlist
in the ammo compont section in back
several of the big brass sellers carry it about 120 to 130 a per
1000 cases if i recall
Alexander Eichener
On 24 Oct 1997, ROB19TH wrote:
# cylinder throats reamed out to proper dimensions. My Webley is of WWI vintage
# with little finish (definitely not a collectors piece, especially after the
# half-moon clip alteration), but the lock work rivals that of $800 Italian
# imports. Lots of fun to shoot.
Hm. Of which Italian revolvers do you think ? Presently, only Mateba
comes to my mind (as of lately, with its new semiautomatic revolver -
a Webley-Fosbery resurrected), and I think the Sauer & Sohn DA revolvers
were also manufactured in Italy for a brief time ? Bernadelli made copies
of US revolvers, but I do not think they were too remarkable.
--
Alexander Eichener, Heidelberg
Main address: c...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Secondary address: c...@oink.rhein.de (a bit slower)