AP-9...Predecessor to Tec-9???
Nate Johanningsmeier
At the local gun store, they have a gun called the AP-9. I
forgot who makes it, but I'll post that later. I was told that it is
of better quality than the Tec-9, but I was wanting a second opinion.
It feels better and looks better, but is it really? The gun is also
pre-ban, so that is another plus. Any info on this would be helpful.
Thanks!!
Nate
J.A.J.
Nate Johanningsmeier wrote:
#
# At the local gun store, they have a gun called the AP-9. I
# forgot who makes it, but I'll post that later. I was told that it is
# of better quality than the Tec-9, but I was wanting a second opinion.
# It feels better and looks better, but is it really? The gun is also
# pre-ban, so that is another plus. Any info on this would be helpful.
# Thanks!!
#
# Nate
Other than looking vaguely similar to a submachine gun, what advantage
are you getting from either of these? Their open bolt designs and
mediocre sights make them minimally accurate and they're about as
concealable as a brake drum.
If all you want is something to spray ammo, go for the AP-9. Generally
more sound construction but still a gadget gun.
Alex Osinski
Nathan.A.Joh...@Rose-Hulman.edu (Nate Johanningsmeier) wrote:
# At the local gun store, they have a gun called the AP-9. I
#of better quality than the Tec-9, but I was wanting a second opinion.
#It feels better and looks better, but is it really? The gun is also
#pre-ban, so that is another plus. Any info on this would be helpful.
#Thanks!!
#
#Nate
#
It is a slightly better design and is made by Kimel. They came out well
after the Intratec guns and also had a rifle version for a while. They
never have been all that popular and NIB pre-ban models are available
from some wholesalers for under $200. I have never owned one, but I hear
that they are better than the Tec-9 / DC-9 guns.
H. McDaniel
Alex Osinski <osin...@cris.com> writes:
#Nathan.A.Joh...@Rose-Hulman.edu (Nate Johanningsmeier) wrote:
## At the local gun store, they have a gun called the AP-9. I
##forgot who makes it, but I'll post that later. I was told that it is
##of better quality than the Tec-9, but I was wanting a second opinion.
##It feels better and looks better, but is it really? The gun is also
##pre-ban, so that is another plus. Any info on this would be helpful.
##Thanks!!
##
##Nate
##
#It is a slightly better design and is made by Kimel. They came out well
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"slightly"???!! The Ap-9 is FAR superior to the Tec-9.
#after the Intratec guns and also had a rifle version for a while. They
#never have been all that popular and NIB pre-ban models are available
#from some wholesalers for under $200. I have never owned one, but I hear
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#that they are better than the Tec-9 / DC-9 guns.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The Ap-9 is much better than the Tec-9s. It does NOT jam after break-in.
Accuracy is *very* nice. We're talking dependable. Definently not a toy.
Disassembly/cleaning very simple. Unfortunately there is no built-in clip
for shoulder harness... but one can be manufactured/improvised simply.
-McDaniel
Will M. Headrick
In article <537iio$i...@nntp5.u.washington.edu>,
H. McDaniel <ha...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
#The Ap-9 is much better than the Tec-9s. It does NOT jam after break-in.
#Accuracy is *very* nice. We're talking dependable. Definently not a toy.
#Disassembly/cleaning very simple. Unfortunately there is no built-in clip
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Could you please elaborate on the disassembly. My brother has one and I
haven't checked it out thoroughly, but I didn't see how to break it down.
I'm guessing it has something to do with that pin in the forward end of
the lower reciever, but it refuses to come out.
Thanks,
Will
KMFDM
#Could you please elaborate on the disassembly. My brother has one and I
#haven't checked it out thoroughly, but I didn't see how to break it down.
#I'm guessing it has something to do with that pin in the forward end of
#the lower reciever, but it refuses to come out.
Knock that pin out with a hammer, then you can lift the barrel/bolt
assembly free of the plastic receiver. Then you can take the barrel
assembly, unscrew the flat cover from the back with a nickel or
screwdriver (be careful -- it's spring-loaded), and the spring
assembly slides out. Now the bolt is floating free within the
housing. Slide the bolt as far forward as it can go (to the point
where the charging handle slot widens) and you can simply pull the
charging handle out of the bolt, allowing the bolt to be slid out of
the barrel assembly. Pretty simple once you get that pin out (it has
to be tapped back in with a hammer as well.)
H. McDaniel
wi...@utkux4.utcc.utk.edu (Will M. Headrick) writes:
#In article <537iio$i...@nntp5.u.washington.edu>,
#H. McDaniel <ha...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
##The Ap-9 is much better than the Tec-9s. It does NOT jam after break-in.
##Accuracy is *very* nice. We're talking dependable. Definently not a toy.
##Disassembly/cleaning very simple. Unfortunately there is no built-in clip
#^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#Could you please elaborate on the disassembly. My brother has one and I
#haven't checked it out thoroughly, but I didn't see how to break it down.
#I'm guessing it has something to do with that pin in the forward end of
#the lower reciever, but it refuses to come out.
Yes. It's called the locking pin assembly. You must force it out by
applying pressure to the pin on the right side of the lower. 1. First
of course make sure the chamber is empty and put the safety on.
2. Put some protective padding (like old cotton shirts) on the firearm to
protect it from scratches. Get a good grip on it with the right side
facing you. Use a small blunt object (also padded) to press against
the pin. It will come out -- but not all the way. Only about 1/4th
of an inch. Now you need to turn the firarm over and use something like
a phillips' or coin to get under the lip of the locking pin head. Just
pull it up the rest of the way.
3. To remove the shroud assembly: lift shroud assembly (barrel/etc.) from
the front end SLOWLY and gently. Don't lift anymore than about 10 degrees
according to the manual -- you can break the handle assembly if you lift
too high/fast/hard. Then pull forward on the shroud assembly.
4. Now to open the shroud assembly you use a coin in the rear slot. Since
it's under spring pressure you have to press down on it while unscrewing.
5. Pull cocking lever rearward to the rear hole. 6. You can just pull the
cocking handle/lever right out. 7. Now you can pull out the bolt assembly.
Be careful not to mix things up. Simple if you know anything about
guns though.
8-11. Shroud & bolt assemblies can be cleaned.
DO NOT mess with the trigger group in the handle/extractor on bolt/or
use oil/solvent on handle assembly.
REASSEMBLY:
1. Reverse above instructions 4-7 after applying a small bit of grease to
the rear piece mentioned in above 4.
2. Part no. 213 is a rod (close safety rod) with a hook on it. Make sure
the hook part of the rod is behind part no. 206. Part 206 is a round part
with two round holes througwh which rods go. It is a buffer that holds
springs.. easy to spot.
3. Place the lineup pin on the part mentioned in above 4. in hole at end
of handle assembly and push shroud assembly into place by pushing backward
and downward while alining locking pin hole in shroud assembly with locking
pin hole in handle assembly.
4. When both pieces meet, hold parts together and pull cocking lever
backward until parts click together.
5. Push the locking pin assembly back into place.
6. Making sure that firearm is empty, point muzzle at safe target and
cock firearm and dry fire to check assembly.
Source: AAARMS "Model AP9 Owners Guide."
Any other Q.s feel free to send e-mail or post *and* send e-mail. I
don't read rec.guns too much.
-McDaniel
adsc...@ix.netcom.com
ha...@u.washington.edu (H. McDaniel) wrote:
#The Ap-9 is much better than the Tec-9s. It does NOT jam after break-in.
#Accuracy is *very* nice. We're talking dependable. Definently not a toy.
#Disassembly/cleaning very simple. Unfortunately there is no built-in clip
#for shoulder harness... but one can be manufactured/improvised simply.
#-McDaniel
You mean a hang free shoulder rig?
It looks real strange, and I cant really see how one can shoot it real well one
handed or two handed.
The aformentioned stocked Tec-9 was called the AR-9.
Anyone have any experience with the Defunc Claridge Hi-tec 10?
Thats a much better looking design. Magazine in the handle. Ergonomic. Rounded
bolt handle for a holster.
Nice.
To bad they dont make them anymore.
It's a nice looking movie prop. (Total Recall)
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