Bayard Arms
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Great Grandfather. On the top of the barrel is stamped "Bayard Arms
Co. Patent Sept.20,1892. I've been to several gun shops and talked
to so called "experts", no one seems to have any information on Bayard
Arms shotguns. The only thing they find related to Bayard Arms is
handguns. One place told me they thought it was an old "black powder"
shotgun and advised against using today's more powerful loads in it. Can
anyone help? Thanks, Mike
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Harold Leahy
#Great Grandfather. On the top of the barrel is stamped "Bayard Arms
#Co. Patent Sept.20,1892. I've been to several gun shops and talked
#to so called "experts", no one seems to have any information on Bayard
#Arms shotguns. The only thing they find related to Bayard Arms is
#handguns.
The only thing I can add is that Bayard was a trademark of Anciens
Etablissements Pieper in Hertstal, Belgium. Both of my references list only
automatic handguns under either name. You might be able to find other
information under the founder's or his son's name - Henri and Nicolas
Pieper. Another reference puts the Pieper firm in Liege, Belgium.
Danjoyce2
Don't know if this will help you but I have a .22 Caliber single shot bolt
action rifle marked with the same name. Model is 1912. I've found out that
"Bayard" was a Belgian Company and was tied in with FN and Pieper[sp] firearms.
If you go to the GUN TALK board, there is a gentleman by the name of Ned Fall
who has an amazing amount of knowledge on old shotguns and is wonderful about
sharing that information. Regards, Dan.
Fasteddie3
<<Recently aquired an old 12 gauge DB shotgun that belonged to my
Great Grandfather. On the top of the barrel is stamped "Bayard Arms
Co. Patent Sept.20,1892. I've been to several gun shops and talked
to so called "experts", no one seems to have any information on Bayard
Arms shotguns.>>
Bayard was a manufacturer of guns in Belgium, active from about 1870 (or
before) until after WW1. They made many low-priced rifles in .22 rimfire,
shotguns like the one you describe, and a line of autoloading pistols around
1910. Because of the low-prices of the original guns, and some of the .22s
being distictly on the flimsy side, Bayard guns are not highly prized. Given
the age and sentimental value of your Great-Grandfathers gun, I would keep it
as a memento of him, and not try to shoot it with modern ammunition.
Ed Arnold
NRA Life member
smoke...@shaw.ca
# You wrote:
# <<Recently aquired an old 12 gauge DB shotgun that belonged to my
# Great Grandfather. On the top of the barrel is stamped "Bayard Arms
# Co. Patent Sept.20,1892. I've been to several gun shops and talked
# to so called "experts", no one seems to have any information on Bayard
# Arms shotguns.>>
# Bayard was a manufacturer of guns in Belgium, active from about 1870 (or
# before) until after WW1. They made many low-priced rifles in .22 rimfire,
# shotguns like the one you describe, and a line of autoloading pistols around
# 1910. Because of the low-prices of the original guns, and some of the .22s
# being distictly on the flimsy side, Bayard guns are not highly prized. Given
# the age and sentimental value of your Great-Grandfathers gun, I would keep it
# as a memento of him, and not try to shoot it with modern ammunition.
Hi Sorry to butt in on your question But I have the same gun a Bayard Arms
patent 488366 Decb 20 1892
On the left hand breech has "Damascus Finish" written,. Others I have see have
just "Damascus" written. Does it mean it just looks like a Damascus Barrel or
is it real damascus barrel? Not to say I want to fire it. About 30 years ago
I had friend hand load 2 light load black powder shells and we fired them and
it stayed together.
Thanks Mark