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Does anybody make a lefty or bottom eject youth 20 ga shotgun

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john

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Sep 4, 2011, 6:09:36 PM9/4/11
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My granddaughter is becoming a real bird hunter. Come Christmas time
I'd like to get her a suitable 20 ga. I prefer a pump but might
consider a semi. She is right handed but left eye dominant. I remember
seeing a bottom eject pump from somebody but can't recall the
manufacture. My GD is small in stature so I'd like to find a youth
model with an apx 20 inch barrel, a youth sized buttstock that takes
choke tubes.

She is currently using a youth model H&R single shot. With her
interest and ability improving I'd like to move her up to at least a
pump. Youth sized O/U's are way out of my budget constraints and the
youth sized side-bys I've seen are designed more for Cowboy Action
Shooting with wide open bores. In a nutshell a bottom or left handed
ejecting youth sized with choke tubes has to be out there somewhere. I
want to avoid hacking and adult sized. Having a reliable gunsmith
thread a shortened barrel for choke tubes is simply to expensive.

I'd really appreciate any suggestions. I'm sure I'm not the only grand
father, father, uncle etc looking for the same.


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Dickr

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Sep 4, 2011, 8:17:51 PM9/4/11
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I remember the Ithaca was a bottom eject pump. It was a beautiful gun
and may still be available on the used market, or maybe some company
still makes a copy. Do a Google search for Ithaca.

Dick

Gunny_2011

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Sep 4, 2011, 8:17:50 PM9/4/11
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Try Ithaca. I have an old Ithaca Model 37 12 gauge that ejects downward.
Ithaca is an economical brand but still good quality. I do not know, but
assume, that they make this in 20 gauge also. Check around the pawn shops
and gun stores that carry used guns. They are pretty common.

sta...@prolynx.com

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Sep 4, 2011, 8:17:53 PM9/4/11
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There's the Ithaca 37, can be had new for a handsome price or more
reasonable off the used rack. 20s are hard to find, though, my
grandmother's is the only one I've seen. Not sure about youth stocks
for those. Browning has the BPS, not sure about 20 ga. availability.
If you go to 12 ga. there's more options and it's more likely you'll
find something. You can load 3/4, 7/8 or 1 oz loads in twelves for
recoil reduction and improve shot patterns at the same time over a
20. BPI has shot cups and load data for those light loads.

I've seen Ithacas in 12 ga for as little as $125 because they had a
Poly-Choke attached. May look funny by today's standards, but they
work and save a bundle on choke tubes. Mine is from the second year
of production and smokes birds.

Good luck finding a lefty 20 semi, Rem 1100s were cataloged in that
configuration, I've never seen one, though.

Stan

Murff

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Sep 4, 2011, 8:17:54 PM9/4/11
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 22:09:36 +0000, john wrote:

# I'd really appreciate any suggestions. I'm sure I'm not the only grand
# father, father, uncle etc looking for the same.
#

Hatsan make their Escort semi in left-handed form - at least they do the
12ga versions so it'd be worth looking to see if they do their 20ga that
way, too.

They're light-recoil (gas operated), with quite a short stock. The one I
gave my (13 year old) son earlier this year fits him well and he is
evidently comfortable with it (though that is a 12, using 21g loads).

You shouldn't find one breaking the bank, either, although might expect
to pay a bit more for left-handedness.

Murff...

Pete Keillor

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Sep 4, 2011, 9:42:02 PM9/4/11
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Ithaca Model 37. I think they make a woman's model, don't know about
youth. I had a featherlight (I'm a lefty), gave it to one of my sons.
Great shotgun.

Pete Keillor

Larry Fishel

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Sep 5, 2011, 6:42:32 AM9/5/11
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Not quite what you asked, but I shoot left handed and have never found
a need for a left-hand eject gun... Every rifle I've fired (not a big
shotgunner), has ejected safely in front of me... The only time it
becomes an issue is operating the bolt on a right-handed rifle, and
that's not a problem with a pump.

MNmineiro

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Sep 5, 2011, 6:38:19 PM9/5/11
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I realize you're getting lots of mention of the Ithaca model 37. I've
had a 16-ga., and loved it. Bought a 12 for my daughter. The factory
website http://www.ithacagun.com/featherlight.html carries lots of
current models in 12, 16 20 and 28 ga.. With the choke tubes
available, you have lots of choice.

Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley

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Sep 5, 2011, 6:38:20 PM9/5/11
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Ithaca makes a model specifically for women - see
http://www.ithacagun.com/featherlight_ladies.html

Since women come in a wide variety of sizes, I would recommend that
you spend the extra $30 to order the exact length of pull from the
factory to suit her. That would probably be less expensive and more
satisfactory than having a local smith do the same work.

Note that for a good fit, women need several different stock
dimensions, not just the length of pull - it is explained on the
website.

Mystro

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Sep 5, 2011, 9:46:03 PM9/5/11
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Browing BPS is a bottom eject.

Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley

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Sep 6, 2011, 2:04:13 PM9/6/11
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On Sep 5, 7:46=A0pm, Mystro <mystro_69...@hotmail.com> wrote:
# Browing =A0BPS is a bottom eject.

Interesting... they do have a suitable short LOP model
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=3D011B&c=
at_id=3D012&type_id=3D225&content=3Dbps-micro-firearms

A bit of a surprise for a Browning - its quite a bit cheaper than the
Ithaca
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/32648

Gray Ghost

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Sep 7, 2011, 5:56:19 AM9/7/11
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FWIW. I shoot off the left shoulder because of left eye dominance and my
son is a lefty (not the bad kind). We have 870s in 12ga and 20ga. To our
experience it doesn't seem to make a bit of difference.

The only firearm I have that is specifically lefty is a Rem 700 BDL in
.308. And I treasure it. Everything else is standard RH, military surplus
rifles, 22s, bolt, semi. Frankly there is little difference that I can
tell. I probably work bolts slower than a righty but I don't expect to be
on the Somme anytime soon. the semi autos all eject fine. Most toss them
straight out to the right or forward to the right. I think AR-15s eject
back but that is why the lump of metal is there behind the chamber opening,
which is notable by it's absence on the first generation.

I've spent many years looking for and at left handed guns. It isn't worth
it in terms of added cost, availability and the effort to find it. Except
for the 700, which was a rare and special case. OTOH, they were catalogued
so ordering wasn't that difficult. Actually I had a LH 788 in .308 but the
bolt went wonky. Gunsmith couldn't figure it out so we sent it to
Remington. The wouldn't even send it back, they said it was very unsafe and
they had no way to fix it. They made me a GREAT deal on the 700 to
compensate. I found the 788 at a gunshow, but it was the only one I ever
saw. (I'd love a short action 788 in .44 Mag LH but I don't think it's
gonna happen).

Also remember that the barrels will be different at the chamber end. So you
may not even find a lefty in the right choke. Not all tubes use screw in
chokes, so you might have to replace the barrel with a screw i choke type
or a fixed choke you like. I'd rather be looking for a RH barrel in that
case.

--
Words of wisdom

What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage.

Gunny_2011

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Sep 8, 2011, 8:49:53 PM9/8/11
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#From the responses, it's looking more and more like you should checkout the
lightweight Ithaca 37's. If the barrel isn't configured for screw in
chokes, your best option is a Polychoke. That way you can change your choke
settings in seconds. My roomy in college had an 870 with a Polychoke. At
first, I thought it looked strange. But, boy was it convenient.

john

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Sep 8, 2011, 8:49:59 PM9/8/11
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I want to than everybody for taking time to respond. Lucked into an
older Stevens 20ga side-by at a pawn shop. Price was right because the
buttstock was chopped, it is a bit top heavy but with a slip-on recoil
pad it is a nearly perfect fit. Best I can tell it is IC and mod
chokes but it should be perfect for the next few years until she grows
into needing an adult sized shotgun.

Gunner Asch

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Sep 9, 2011, 8:26:48 AM9/9/11
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On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 00:49:59 +0000 (UTC), john <zivend...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

#I want to than everybody for taking time to respond. Lucked into an
#older Stevens 20ga side-by at a pawn shop. Price was right because the
#buttstock was chopped, it is a bit top heavy but with a slip-on recoil
#pad it is a nearly perfect fit. Best I can tell it is IC and mod
#chokes but it should be perfect for the next few years until she grows
#into needing an adult sized shotgun.
#
Is it bottom eject?

<G>

Gunner

Dickr

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Sep 9, 2011, 6:31:42 PM9/9/11
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On 9/8/2011 7:49 PM, john wrote:
# I want to than everybody for taking time to respond. Lucked into an
# older Stevens 20ga side-by at a pawn shop. Price was right because the
# buttstock was chopped, it is a bit top heavy but with a slip-on recoil
# pad it is a nearly perfect fit. Best I can tell it is IC and mod
# chokes but it should be perfect for the next few years until she grows
# into needing an adult sized shotgun.
#
Hey John, good choice! But you can also plan for the future and keep
your eyes open for a good deal on an Ithaca 37 or Browning BPS.

Dick

Dickr

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Sep 9, 2011, 6:31:44 PM9/9/11
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On 9/8/2011 7:49 PM, john wrote:
# I want to than everybody for taking time to respond. Lucked into an
# older Stevens 20ga side-by at a pawn shop. Price was right because the
# buttstock was chopped, it is a bit top heavy but with a slip-on recoil
# pad it is a nearly perfect fit. Best I can tell it is IC and mod
# chokes but it should be perfect for the next few years until she grows
# into needing an adult sized shotgun.
#
Hey John, good choice! But you can also plan for the future and keep
your eyes open for a good deal on an Ithaca 37 or Browning BPS.

Dick


Tom S.

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Sep 9, 2011, 6:52:39 PM9/9/11
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"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:j4d0m8$k5r$1...@news.albasani.net...
# On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 00:49:59 +0000 (UTC), john <zivend...@yahoo.com>
# wrote:
#
# #I want to than everybody for taking time to respond. Lucked into an
# #older Stevens 20ga side-by at a pawn shop. Price was right because the
# #buttstock was chopped, it is a bit top heavy but with a slip-on recoil
# #pad it is a nearly perfect fit. Best I can tell it is IC and mod
# #chokes but it should be perfect for the next few years until she grows
# #into needing an adult sized shotgun.
# #
# Is it bottom eject?
#
# <G>
It is if you point the muzzle skyward when you open it. :-)

Vikingsoftpaw

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Sep 18, 2011, 8:17:31 PM9/18/11
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The Browning BPS series is bottom eject. Remington did indeed make a Mod 1100 left hand 20ga. They are hard to find and are expensive. The last one I've seen, the asking price was over $1700.

Consider something like a Browning Citori.

Don Staples

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Sep 19, 2011, 9:44:52 AM9/19/11
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"Vikingsoftpaw" <michael...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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# The Browning BPS series is bottom eject. Remington did indeed make a Mod
# 1100 left hand 20ga. They are hard to find and are expensive. The last
# one I've seen, the asking price was over $1700.
#
# Consider something like a Browning Citori.


I have an older model 17 Remington, bottom eject, in 20 gauge, cut for a
small framed lady, with polly choke, if your interested. Not in pristine
shape, but beats $1700.
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