New York Gun clubs
Ian
York City limits? Apparently you need a handgun license to fire a
range's gun; so until I can afford a license, I'm looking for other
avenues to practice my marksmanship.
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Gerald "Brick" Brickwood
I suggest you define your desire to "practice your marksmanship" a little
more definitively. See, in NYS it is a felony for an unlicensed person to
"possess" a loaded pistol regardless of the venue. It is a misdemeanor to
possess an unloaded pistol without a license. But you should note that as
long as you're not a "prohibited person" you may use rifles and shotguns
without licensing (although I'm not sure about possession/registration
requirements in NYC proper).
Westchester County used to maintain the Blue Mountain Range (IIRC) as a
public facility. Check the county website.
Good luck!
Steve W.
# I suggest you define your desire to "practice your marksmanship" a little
# more definitively. See, in NYS it is a felony for an unlicensed person to
# "possess" a loaded pistol regardless of the venue.
Permit required to OWN a pistol. NOT required to fire one if the owner
is with you.
It is a misdemeanor to possess an unloaded pistol without a license.
Permit is required to OWN a pistol. Being on a range and firing a pistol
you do not own is allowed as long as the owner is present.
NONE OF THIS APPLIES IN NYC!!. That is its' twisted world....
But you should note that as
# long as you're not a "prohibited person" you may use rifles and shotguns
# without licensing (although I'm not sure about possession/registration
# requirements in NYC proper).
#
# Westchester County used to maintain the Blue Mountain Range (IIRC) as a
# public facility. Check the county website.
#
# Good luck!
--
Steve W.
Mike Isaksen
"Steve W." wrote (about handgun operation in NYS)...
# Permit is required to OWN a pistol. NOT required to fire one if
# the owner is with you.
#
# Permit is required to OWN a pistol. Being on a range and firing a
# pistol you do not own is allowed as long as the owner is present.
#
This would be a change in the NYS interpretations on handgun laws, as I have
researched them.
At this time I have not found a legal way to bring a family member (non
pistol permit holder) into a NYS range for target practice.
Yeah, yeah,... we all know the wink wink nudge nudge "she's only going in
with this 22 LR and I'll be shooting pistol" password, but more and more
range officers holding the line.
I would love what you say to be true. Unfortunitely in NYS it is very
difficult to pass on the joy of pistol shooting to others!
Gerald "Brick" Brickwood
Well Steve, I strongly suggest you check the NYS Penal Code. Because you're
wrong. A Firearms dealer in NYS (not even NYC) won't even let you handle a
handgun to inspect it, unless you have a license, and just why do you think
you cannot rent a handgun at a range unless you have a license? BTW, if
you buy pistol caliber ammo in NYS many places will ask to see your pistol
license. You might get away with shooting someone else's pistol on private
property (like a gun club range) as long as no one complains, but it is
still a violation. NYC requires its' own endorsement on NYS licenses for
possession or ownership within city limits, so does Nassau and Suffolk
Counties and the City of Rochester IIRC.
James
when I lived on Long Island Suffok County back in 1980,
they would not take a .22 ruger out of the display case
unless I had a permit with me.
went to another dealer later that day and the guy says
wanna look at anything, I say I don't have the permit,
he says F 'em and hands me a .357 S&W!
Guess things have changed a little but not much.
Much easier here in Raleigh, NC.
regards.
R.M.R
York City limits? Apparently you need a handgun license to fire a
range's gun; so until I can afford a license, I'm looking for other
avenues to practice my marksmanship.
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Oh sure, I know a few good ones just out of NYC, but the avenue is
I-95, that's if your not challenged by a two day ride south. Trust me,
once you leave that armpit of a city you'll never look back, and as a
bonus you'll be able to shoot to your hearts content without feeling
like a criminal. God only knows how I took my first 20 years of life
up there whereas it only gotten worse since than. Goodluck in your
search but heed my advice...
Ray,
(Si vis pacem
para bellum)
molon labe
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Tony
# difficult to pass on the joy of pistol shooting to others!
Thanks to Gov. Pataki, you can pass on the joy of pistol shooting to
your children without a license on an incorporated range:
| It also provides an exception for training and organized competition
| by amending the penal law to provide for unlicensed use of handguns at
| organized indoor or outdoor ranges by underage persons who are
| supervised and shoot handguns licensed to individuals who are present
| during the event.
Source: http://www.gunweek.com/2000/pataki0710.html
My 17 year old daughter loves to shoot pistol. I hope she has the
desire to carry concealed.
Gray Ghost
property in the Catskills. In truth there is a lot I miss, the beaches and
mountains so near each other Jones Beach to our mountain home in 3 hours!
Good food, many decent people (yeaj i know, not all of them). I am not now a
city boy, but ther were some advantages to living near to NYC. I still have
family there.
When I got to the point in my life where shooting became imporant and I
understood the limits in NYS my attitude changed. We had firearms growing up,
but I had no idea of the hassle. I had brought my .45 with me one year to see
the old house by myself. I didn't realize at the time that I was taking a
huge chance. I'd bought my first gun in Texas and the next bunch in VA and
didn't realize that any place else would be much different. I probably risked
jail time at worse or loss of the pistol at best.
I turned down the family land in the Catskills, I would have had to move
there or be committed to vacationing there a lot. I do miss it quite a bit
and resent the fatheads in NYS that make that state so unpalatable to live in
for honest law abiding people.
Frank
R.M.R
Catskills, I would have had to move there or be committed to
fatheads in NYS that make that state so unpalatable to live in for
honest law abiding people.
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I hear you Frank, I miss some aspects also, like you say in your full
post, the food, entertainment etc. but I didn't want to live like a
subject either. I grew up in the city but every school vacation I'd go
up state to Cherry Valley N.Y. There it was a whole different world
where it wasn't uncommon to see a bunch of bare footed kids carrying
fishing poles and .22 rifles. I did make it through the 60's (I think,
wink wink) in the city but the neighborhood started going to shit and
rules & regulations just became intolerable. I been down here on this
sand pile ever since. Not paradise but could be worse. If I went back
to the old neighborhood now I'd have to have several ,45's that's how
bad it became, the closest I'll get is Google Earth...
Gray Ghost
Our place was west of Kingston, actually fairly close to Woodstock, well a
mountain or two over anyway. Rt 28 to Phonecia, 214 to Lanesville. A Tom
Sawyer's life if ever there was one.
Of course everything is still recognizable from the 1960s since the pinheads
have completely blocked any sort of development. Kind of a time capsule.
Frank