Beretta mini-cougar problems

[vdub...@my-deja.com]

I have just bought a 9mm beretta mini-cougar
less than a week ago and and have been
experiencing a few problems and would like others
feedback on these and just general feedback on
the gun.
The problem was that the first day I got it i
took it out and shot about twenty rounds through
it and about every second shot when it would
eject the spent shell the third bullett would
only get about midway in the barrell and jam
open, sometimes it would even catch the spent
shell in the slide too. The second problem is
that the slide would not stick open after the
clip was empty.
much to my dismay I went home thinking it was
just a little dry of oil from sitting and the
slide was not comming all the way open causing
the jamming. So I went home field stripped it and
oiled it up went back out shot two clips through
it, no more problems.
Today I took it out shot two clips through it
and went for a third and the problem began again,
the bullett was not making into the barrell
except this time it was every shot and the slide
was not sticking open.
Should I send it back into berretta since it is
brand new, take it back to the dealer and make
him?
I think that the slide spring might be too tight
not letting it open all the way?

I am at a loss any help would be appreciated

thanks

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[specops]

If I had paid what those Cougars go for and get that kind of performance I
think I'd take it back, that's just my opinion. I would at the very least
try to get the gunstore to exchange it for another, therefore stopping you
from having to wait so long for Beretta to look at it. At the very least I'd
send it back if nothing else. I don't particularly care for the Cougar and
think you could get a whole lot more for your money but I don't know what
kind of a deal you got, most dealers would at least exchange it since it's
brand new. Maybe you can get your money back and get something that really
shoots like a Glock, Sig, H&K etc..
Good luck,
SPECOPS.

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[Roy Taylor]

I had the same problem...It's a lubrication problem. Use a good gun grease
(Tetra) on the licking lug and cam on the barrel and also in the barrel
channel on the slide.Gun oil just wont cut it with this design. this should
clear up your problem.

Roy Taylor

[FBC3]

#
#I am at a loss any help would be appreciated
#

Perhaps you could trade it for a Ruger .357 revolver. Get a couple speed
loaders and you can count on six reliable shots with no feeding problems.
Fred

[MLee388407]

The slide spring may be too heavy or maybe the load you are using is too light.
Check the feed ramp maybe there is a burr there. Try different magazines also.

Mike
rec.guns.

[JEB]

I'd send it straight back to Beretta. The product does not function as
advertised. I sent a Beretta 21A back for similar reasons. It was returned
with a long list of work done on it. It now functions flawlessly! Turn
around was only about 4 weeks. Yes, I hate sending it back and taking the
time, but I don't see spending money for a gun smith on a manufactoring
problem.

Just my opinion and experience, others will differ.

JEB

vdub...@my-deja.com wrote:

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[Gandalf]

On 26 Sep 2000 09:47:16 -0400, in rec.guns you wrote:

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The first thing I'd recommend is a *thorough* cleaning, followed by the use of a
good quality grease to lubricate the slide rails, and the barrel 'locking' area,
those unique rotating locking surfaces. Then try some more powerful ammunition.
It sounds like if your ammunition was more powerful, the gun would be more
likely to function correctly. New semiautos often need a 'breaking in period'.
this is less common than in the past, but when I was shooting back in the 70's,
virtually every new semiauto tended to have failure to feed and eject properly
until a significant number of round had been fired through the gun, perhaps
several hundred. Newer guns, such as Glocks, Sigs, and HK's often need no break
in period, but what you are experiencing used to be very common. Your recoil
spring is certainly stronger than it will be after you shoot it some more. You
might want to order an extra recoil spring (or 2 or 30 from Beretta, and
experiment by cutting 1/4th of a coil at a time, shooting after each time you
shorten the spring. This may greatly increase the functioning of the gun, and
could save you the frustration of shooting several hundred rounds with failures
to feed and extract, while the gun gets broken in. Another thing to check is
the feed ramp. It should be smooth, with no machining marks, and with the groove
in the exact middle of the ramp. If it's not smooth, you may want to get it
polished. This is about a 10 minute job with a Dremmel tool, if you can borrow
one. You want to use the hard felt 'bullet point' felt polishing bit, with
*white* (cutting) rouge. Avoid removing metal from the area where the ramp
enters the chamber: this area is critical to cartridge support. If the groove in
the ramp isn't centered in the ramp (and I've seen this several times on new
guns), contact Beretta about this. Good luck.

[WH]

Your description suggests that one of your three magazines is a dog.

[Scott Craig]

# The problem was that the first day I got it i
#took it out and shot about twenty rounds through
#it and about every second shot when it would
#eject the spent shell the third bullett would
#only get about midway in the barrell and jam
#open, sometimes it would even catch the spent
#shell in the slide too. The second problem is
#that the slide would not stick open after the
#clip was empty.

Try cleaning your magazines. It sounds like either the slide is
cycling at the speed of light or the magazine follower is dragging
and not raising fast enough. I use that Remington Dry Lube in my
mags because I don't want oil in them but I do want lubriaction.

Also check and see if the lips of the magazines are bent. If the
space at the front of the feed lips is too narrow it will cause
the bullet to jam on the feed ramp; if the space is too wide the
bullet will jam at the top of the chamber. This info is from the
Beretta armorer's manual for the 92/96 series, but the Cougar
should behave the same way in that respect.

# Today I took it out shot two clips through it
#and went for a third and the problem began again,
#the bullett was not making into the barrell
#except this time it was every shot and the slide
#was not sticking open.

The recoil spring on the Cougar is VERY stiff, but it will loosen
up over time. Try a box of +P ammo and see if that helps. +P has
a lot more power than "Standard" ammo, and the Cougars are rated
for +P.

# Should I send it back into berretta since it is
#brand new, take it back to the dealer and make
#him?

Absolutely. If you can't figure out what is causing the problems,
call Beretta. I've called them a few times and found them to be
very helpful. They stand behind their products, and will get it
working.

Scott C

[KAELON]

Beretta makes excellent pistols. Yours must be an anomaly. I wouldn't try to
modify anything untill I called Beretta first. Good advice from the others,
but don't judge an excellent gun on one that isn't working properly.

[Allan Whitaker]

vdub...@my-deja.com wrote:
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I wouldn't do anything until I had 200-300 rnds through it. Clean it
well, then buy 4-5 boxes of cheap plinking ammo and break it in.
--
You got a lot of guts...
Lets see what they look like!

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