Browning Auto 5 Recoil Rings arrangement?

[F4U1A214]

Could someone explain the arrangement of the recoil rings on a Auto 5 16ga
shotgun for heavy and light loads.

Bill

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[Claude Wright]

For light loads
Ring with bevel - Place bevel down against receiver with recoil spring next ,
then the other ring in front of recoil spring. Heavy loads flat of bevel ring
against recoil spring with friction ring nested in bevel both in front.

[Doug Owen]

F4U1A214 wrote:
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# Could someone explain the arrangement of the recoil rings on a Auto 5 16ga
# shotgun for heavy and light loads.
#

It's fairly logical (as are most details of John Browning designs). The
brake sleeve is intended to slow the recoil action. This effect can be
increased (for heavy loads) by arranging the ring so that the chamfered
side faces the brake sleeve. This means as the spring compresses the
chamfers on both the barrel lug and the ring are forcing the brake
closed providing increased friction. Alternatively, if the ring is
faced the other way around only one chamfer (the one on the lug) is
doing so. It may also be set up so the ring is against the lug, chamfer
to chamfer, for very minimal braking.

You should use the maximum breaking effect possible consistent with
reliable action. That is use the setup that just allows the action to
lock open when empty. Less breaking effect batters the buffer at the
inside end of the hump.

Doug Owen

[keith whaley]

F4U1A214 wrote:
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# Could someone explain the arrangement of the recoil rings on a Auto 5 16ga
# shotgun for heavy and light loads.
#

# Bill

Hi Bill,

Sure. With the forend off, look at the position of the solid ring, that has a
flat side and an inside cone shape on the other side.

For light loads, disassemble the barrel, friction ring assy, solid ring and
spring. Place the solid ring against the receiver, with the flat side toward
the spring. Add the spring and then the splined bronze friction ring assembly,
then the barre and forend.

For heavy loads, put the spring on the mag tube first, against the receiver,
then the solid ring, with the cone-shaped recess facing toward the front, then
the splined bronze friction ring, then the barrel...

Keep these instructions somewhere safe, for future reference! ;-)

keith whaley
gunsmith/owner
WHALEY's, Los Angeles

[Gary W Beyer]

I'm not sure, but call Kenny B. in Marion IA, he's in the phone book.
I'm sure he can set you up. He's very knowledgeable about just about
everything, and he owns a Sweet 16 he acquired from his dad long ago.
Just the other day, I was shooting with him and he was explaining in
detail the workings of the rings you describe.

Gary

On 28 Aug 1999 10:37:29 -0400, f4u1...@aol.com (F4U1A214) wrote:

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[Randolph Johnson]

My A5 has a diagram of the spring,
"taper ring" arrangement, on a card,
attached to the inside of the forend.
Have you looked inside yet?.
Basically, when using hi-base shells,
the taper ring is installed on top of
the split bushing. When using low-base,
the taper ring is stored under the recoil
spring, right up against the receiver.
Randy

[Clark Magnuson]

There is a card in the forend of my Rem 11 20 ga that shows something
about the rings but it is cryptic to me.
Clark

[keith whaley]

Clark Magnuson wrote:
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# There is a card in the forend of my Rem 11 20 ga that shows something
# about the rings but it is cryptic to me.
# Clark

Sighhh. Okay. Keep this somewhere.

When you remove the forestock and barrel, on the mag tube there is a friction
ring assembly, and a washer with a flat side and a countersink side and a
recoil spring.
The only thing that changes position for hot or light loads is the washer. The
bronze friction ring assembly always assembles last and stays against the rear
of the barrel ring. Having said that, here's what you do with the washer.

If you're shooting light loads, disassemble all parts, place the washer
against the receiver, flat side toward the spring. Put the spring on, then the
friction assembly, then the barrel and forend.

If you're shooting hotter loads, remove everything, then place the recoil
spring on the mag tube first, then the washer, flat side to the rear, against
the spring, then the friction assembly, then the barrel, etc.

That's it!

Keith Whaley - gunsmith/owner
WHALEY's Gunsmithing
Westchester, CA
(near LAX)