Which 8mm K98 type to buy as a shooter?
leo3006
are so many types to choose from. Which one is fairly cheap, and well
made? I don't care about nazi markings one way or the other.
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"leo3006" <Lroz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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#I really like the K98 rifle. I want to start shooting one but there
# are so many types to choose from. Which one is fairly cheap, and well
# made? I don't care about nazi markings one way or the other.
#
There are surplus Spanish Mausers coming on the Market that are quite
interesting.
These have been converted to carbines in 7.62x51
They are called FR8 Mausers
They seem to sell around $350-400
Gives you the advantage of shooting a relatively modern ammo too..'
Elka BONG
#I really like the K98 rifle. I want to start shooting one but there
# are so many types to choose from. Which one is fairly cheap, and well
# made? I don't care about nazi markings one way or the other.
You'll find the Yugo M48 Mausers to be cheapest. They're extremely well
made, durable little shooters. You shouldn't have any trouble finding one in
excellent or even unissued condition for under $200.
WWII era German K98s are still a great bargin as well. Shooter grade
examples are out there in the low $200's.
I believe that we'll look back in 20 years and be amazed that you could pick
these historically important rifles up for a song back in 2008. When I think
about how many gazillion Mausers the Germans, Austrians and Czech's made
between 1935 and 1945, I guess it's not surprising that they'd still be
plentyfull. At some point though, they're bound to become scarce selling for
many times today's price.
chasw
shortcuts and slave labor degraded quality in many cases. The key is to get
one with a excellent bore. All the other parts can be refinished or
replaced easily. If you have a C&R license, I suggest you call one of the
specialty dealers via telecon to ensure you get a rifle with a good bore,
see link below. All too many milsurp rifles have bores that look like sewer
pipes and are unusable as shooters. - CW
http://www.guns-and-ammunition.com/c-r-collector-forum-39/c-r-dealer-list-795.html
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"leo3006" <Lroz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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#I really like the K98 rifle. I want to start shooting one but there
# are so many types to choose from. Which one is fairly cheap, and well
# made? I don't care about nazi markings one way or the other.
#
Ron Bloom
# are so many types to choose from. Which one is fairly cheap, and well
# made? I don't care about nazi markings one way or the other.
Yugoslav M48's.
Zombywoof
wrote:
#I really like the K98 rifle. I want to start shooting one but there
#are so many types to choose from. Which one is fairly cheap, and well
#made? I don't care about nazi markings one way or the other.
#
Then buy one the cheapest one you can find & have it checked by a good
smith to ensure that a 70+ year old weapon don't blow up in your face.
While most on the current market come out of old Russian war reserves
& were rebuilt prior to being put up for long-term storage, they need
to be complete stripped, cleaned & headspace checked.
There is a Guy on e-bay who offers a "Firearms Restoration" service
with a specialty in the K-98's. For about $200 bucks he'll restore
any old one in to a safe & effective daily shooter. I have no direct
knowledge of the quality of his service, but have communicated with
him about doing several of mine.
--
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."
RosemontCrest
# I really like the K98 rifle. I want to start shooting one but there
# are so many types to choose from. Which one is fairly cheap, and well
# made? I don't care about nazi markings one way or the other.
While not truly a k98k and if all you want it for is a shooter, a Yugo
M48 is likely to be the least expensive and is very well built. I
bought one LNIB and all matching for $140 about 3 years ago. I still
see nice ones at shows for about $175 to $200. Good luck.
Giampingjack
nice guns
take a note: the weapons called FR7 and FR8 are quite different and
manufactured for 7,62mm cetme that are a 308 whit 112 grains, long and light
bullet, whit lower pressure than 7,62 nato and commercial 308.
sights are zeroed for this cartridge.
the FR8 are mauser large ring fron 1943 spanish mauser (copies of standard
k98k manufactured from 1943 under license) and quite robust, original
caliber was 8x57 mauser whit 198 grains bullet.
the FR7 was made from older small ring M1893 mauser, more weak, I suppose.
the FR7 and FR8 was made for spanish army
police and paramilitary was using or old m93 rifles and 1916 carbines, in
7x57 or simply rebarreled in 7,62 cetme whitouts others modifications
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Giampingjack
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Jim
http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/military-bolt-action-rifles/mausers/cPath/209_219_217
If you are just looking for a low cost shooter don't over look the
Nagant rifles
and low cost ammo. Not an 8MM or a Mauser but you can do allot of low
cost high power rifle shooting.
Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley
# I really like the K98 rifle. I want to start shooting one but there
# are so many types to choose from. Which one is fairly cheap, and well
# made?
Back in the 1950s-1970s, Israel converted large numbers of K98s to 308
caliber by installing new barrels - these rifles are still available
at moderate prices - here is an example of an expired auction
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8368555
308 ammo is much cheaper and easier to find than the original 8mm
German ammo. You can even buy it at WalMart.
Bluehawk99
barrel rated at only 70%
If I were going to spend that much I would buy a new Howa in .308
dave
$200.00 in most places.
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wb
# I really like the K98 rifle. I want to start shooting one but there
# are so many types to choose from. Which one is fairly cheap, and well
# made? I don't care about nazi markings one way or the other.
Hi,
Among the finest shooting K98's are the 1930 vintage Persian Mausers
from the Brno factory in Czechoslovakia. There is a carbine and a long
rifle version. All markings are in Farsi, though, including the range
markings on the rear sight. I have shot mine out to 600 yards and been
able, with iron sights, to keep all shots in a 18" circle.
We anchored the rifle in a "Lead Sled" and shot sub MOA groups
at 100 yards with some of my hand loads using Sierra 200 gr Match boat
tail bullets. I have yet to find a Mauser that will out shoot the one I
have.
I'm sure there are better ones, but I find that my Persian 8mm to be my
best shooter. It is even more accurate then my Swedish Mausers, which
are no slouches either. Expect to pay around $600 for a nice, clean
Swedish or Persian Mauser. (Swedes are 6.5x55mm not 8x57).
gri...@foni.net
# There are surplus Spanish Mausers coming on the Market that are quite
# These have been converted to carbines in 7.62x51
# They are called FR8 Mausers
# They seem to sell around $350-400
# Gives you the advantage of shooting a relatively modern ammo too..'
The one I bought last year apparently hadn't been fired very often; in the
meantime I went through about 200 rounds and either I have become familiar
with it or I'm breaking it in 60 years after it was built.
Jens
--
You can't out-sarcasm reality.
petru...@gmail.com
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The model 24/27 yugo guns are much better in workmanship than the
later made m48 guns. Most of new barrels.
All of the K98 guns have very good workmanship but bore condition
varies.
The myth is that late war K98's did not have good workmanship. This
is not altogether true. The only short cuts were on the outside
polishing of the barrel and action. The internal parts, barrels and
stock bedding were still held to a very high standard. In other words
late war guns shoot just as well as early war guns.
If you buy just about any Mauser with a good bore they will shoot
better than you can, as they were all outstandingly accurate guns.
petru...@gmail.com
items that will constantly go up in price as time goes on. This is
not always true of sporting guns that usually are worth a good deal
less that what one paid for them when they were new.
I have seen rare military models with shot out bores go for hundreds
of dollars to people who collect them and do not shoot them. This
almost is never true of sporting guns.
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