.32 Rimfire rifle, any value?

[Randy]

I can find almost nothing on this gun on the web. It's my uncle's
gun. Hopkins and Allen model No.832 single shot rifle. Best guess is
..32 rimfire. Does it have collector value? Sleeve it to .22 LR?

My local gun smith suggested the Blue Book, I can send in pictures
there, if the opinion is it does have collector value.

Any web sites I should look at?

Thank You,
Randy

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On Jul 23, 10:45 am, Randy <rbraun...@enter.net> wrote:
# I can find almost nothing on this gun on the web.  It's my uncle's
# gun.  Hopkins and Allen model No.832 single shot rifle.  Best guess is
# ..32 rimfire.  Does it have collector value?    Sleeve it to .22 LR?
#
# My local gun smith suggested the Blue Book, I can send in pictures
# there, if the opinion is it does have collector value.
#
# Any web sites I should look at?
#
# Thank You,
# Randy
#
# Remove 333 from email address to reply.
#
There is a vast pool of former barn guns out there, this one would
qualify. .32 rimfire is firmly in the domain of the cartridge
collectors, hasn't been made for decades. There are collectors of
single shot rifles out there, the gun has to be in much better
condition than former barn guns would be to be of interest. You
didn't say what the condition was. Any modifications would ruin the
collector value, if any. Yes, the thing could be relined to .22, but
you'd also have to alter the firing pin so it would strike the smaller
rim, probably major breechblock mods would be needed. Probably would
cost more than the thing is worth unless you're tooled up and you can
do it yourself.

There were convertable rifles made, .32 rimfire and .32 Colt
centerfire, it might be an option to convert the breechblock to
centerfire if the bore is good. Strictly blackpowder-level loads,
though, with lead bullets. That's if you've gotta shoot it. Most of
these types of guns used cast or malleble iron frams and/or internal
parts.

James Grant wrote a series of books on single shots, as did Frank de
Haas, Hopkins & Allen are surely in one or more of them, might be the
local library would have one or more or could get them for you. Not
everything is on the web, you know.

Stan

[GunCollector]

On Jul 23, 12:45 pm, Randy <rbraun...@enter.net> wrote:
> ...

is it a.32 short R.F, rolling block, take down lever action? Round
barrel, open rear sight? back in 85 in vg condition was $105 exc $170
and in 84 in exc condition was $160 i hope this helps
i got these prices from a price guide from 85

[tom...@webcom.com]

This one, in fair condition, sold for $203 in June...HTH...

http://www.auctionarms.com/Search/DisplayItem.cfm?ItemNum=8619195.0

Best,
Tom

Randy wrote:
> ...

[penultimate]

On Jul 23, 11:45 am, Randy <rbraun...@enter.net> wrote:
> ...

1. Yes it has collector's value in magnitude depending on condition -
somewhere between $100 and $2000 is a reasonable guess without knowing
exactly what a model 832 is. H&A made a cajillion variations ranging
from pretty cheap guns to a few fairly nice models. If on the higher
end, the condition will be terrific, probably still show some case
color, and the action is some sort of falling block, probably
activated by a lever. The low end will be some combination of in
poorish condition and an obviously cheap single shot design.

2. Assuming it is the "correct" 32 rimfire round, I recall Navy Arms
offing some every once in a while. You might check with Old Western
Scrounger.

My advice about sleeving to 22 is if you want a 22, buy one. Doing
this will cause loss of collector interest and value.

[hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com]

On Jul 23, 1:45 pm, Randy <rbraun...@enter.net> wrote:
> ...

I think one of the mexican ammo manufacturers does a small run of the
32rf every once in a while. It's still expensive.

If you think you have to shoot it, there is a conversion "cartridge"
that holds a 22rf blank (for a nail gun) and a "OO" buckshot lead
ball.

[wanda00...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 1:45:34 PM UTC-3, Randy wrote:
# I can find almost nothing on this gun on the web. It's my uncle's
# gun. Hopkins and Allen model No.832 single shot rifle. Best guess is
# ..32 rimfire. Does it have collector value? Sleeve it to .22 LR?
#
# My local gun smith suggested the Blue Book, I can send in pictures
# there, if the opinion is it does have collector value.
#
# Any web sites I should look at?

32 Rim Fire Hawkins & Allen Falling Block, the lever doesn't work properly, any idea what it is worth?