M&P 15-22 rifle

[George]

Has anyone shot one? I have seen a couple and am interested in their
performance.
George in Las Vegas

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[John Husvar]

In article <hdt179$rqp$1...@news.albasani.net>, "George" <gk...@cox.net>
wrote:

> ...

Kinda cute, but not very tactically useful except maybe for shooting an
opposition soldier to get a real tactical rifle?

[edi...@netpath.net]

On Nov 17, 8:11�am, John Husvar <jhus...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
# Kinda cute, but not very tactically useful except maybe for shooting an
# opposition soldier to get a real tactical rifle?

Cheap TRAINING with a rifle that handles just like the "real" one if
your "real" semiauto tactical rifle is an AR-15.

[nord...@yahoo.com]

# Kinda cute, but not very tactically useful

It's a 22, not an assault rifle; it doesn't have to be "tactically
useful" to be useful. It can be a plinker, a small game gun, or a low
cost/low noise/simple backstop training piece. About the only thing
better would be if they sold the upper alone for use on a fella's
regular lower. Hmmn, or will it take a 223/5.56 upper?

[John Husvar]

In article <hdvf5t$hug$1...@news.albasani.net>, nord...@yahoo.com wrote:

# # Kinda cute, but not very tactically useful
#
# It's a 22, not an assault rifle; it doesn't have to be "tactically
# useful" to be useful. It can be a plinker, a small game gun, or a low
# cost/low noise/simple backstop training piece. About the only thing
# better would be if they sold the upper alone for use on a fella's
# regular lower. Hmmn, or will it take a 223/5.56 upper?
#

No accounting for taste I guess. I figure I have better things to spend
$400+ on, but as usual, YMMV.

[SaPeIsMa]

<nord...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hdvf5t$hug$1...@news.albasani.net...
## Kinda cute, but not very tactically useful
#
# It's a 22, not an assault rifle; it doesn't have to be "tactically
# useful" to be useful. It can be a plinker, a small game gun, or a low
# cost/low noise/simple backstop training piece. About the only thing
# better would be if they sold the upper alone for use on a fella's
# regular lower. Hmmn, or will it take a 223/5.56 upper?
#

You can get an kit to convert your M-16 to .22lr
Works the same way that conversion kits work for pistols.

[John Husvar]

In article <hdvf5q$hue$1...@news.albasani.net>,
"edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:

# On Nov 17, 8:11�am, John Husvar <jhus...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
# # Kinda cute, but not very tactically useful except maybe for shooting an
# # opposition soldier to get a real tactical rifle?
#
# Cheap TRAINING with a rifle that handles just like the "real" one if
# your "real" semiauto tactical rifle is an AR-15.
#

Well, can't see it myself, but anyone can do as they please, of course.
I just see it as a marketing ploy: Stick "M&P" on anything and it'll
sell.

[nord...@yahoo.com]

# # About the only thing
# # better would be if they sold the upper alone for use on a fella's
# # regular lower. �Hmmn, or will it take a 223/5.56 upper?

#
# You can get an kit to convert your M-16 to .22lr

# Works the same way that conversion kits work for pistols.

Yep, they've been around for a long time but a dedicated upper with a
purpose built 22 rimfire barrel can be more reliable, more accurate,
and easier to clean up.

So, does anyone know if the M&P 15-22 is built on a real AR-15 lower?

[George]

# ## Kinda cute, but not very tactically useful

# #
# # It's a 22, not an assault rifle; it doesn't have to be "tactically

# # useful" to be useful. It can be a plinker, a small game gun, or a low
# # cost/low noise/simple backstop training piece. About the only thing
# # better would be if they sold the upper alone for use on a fella's
# # regular lower. Hmmn, or will it take a 223/5.56 upper?
# #
#

# You can get an kit to convert your M-16 to .22lr

# Works the same way that conversion kits work for pistols.

The receivers are different sizes to prevent interchange. Conversion kits
have been in existence since the 70s; the Air Force used them for most
training. The unit I used in 1980 was well used by the time it got to me.
George in Las Vegas

[George]

# No accounting for taste I guess. I figure I have better things to spend

# $400+ on, but as usual, YMMV.

The UmarexWalther/Colt M-4 clone is about twice the price. It is almost the
price of a low end AR. It is probably a little cheaper than the Ruger SR 22.

It appeals because it has a fully floated barrel and takes M-16 style sights
along with dot sights and about any other AR type accessory. I would expect
it and the Ruger to shoot well. It weighs less than a regular AR. The
UmarexWalther/Colt M-4 seems to have a lot of zinc inside the aluminum
receivers and I think a synthetice receiver with steel rails is probably a
better idea.

I would prefer a dust cover and a threaded muzzle. I doubt a .22 action
would work with the added force of opening a dust cover. While a threaded
muzzle would probably only be used for a cosmetic flash hider I have been
considering a .22 silencer for years and it would be nice to be able to
install it on anything I own.
George in Las Vegas

[George]

# So, does anyone know if the M&P 15-22 is built on a real AR-15 lower?

I have read they don't.
George inLas Vegas

[DocGlock]

"George" <gk...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:he57h3$3f6$1...@news.albasani.net...
## So, does anyone know if the M&P 15-22 is built on a real AR-15 lower?
#
# I have read they don't.
# George inLas Vegas
#
True, it is not a "real" AR lower, but it can take AR accessories like the
grip, AR tuned triggers, etc.