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Shooters Choice and Corrosive Ammo

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BP

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Jun 5, 2004, 7:18:34 PM6/5/04
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Any information on the effectiveness of Shooters Choice on cleaning after
using corrosive ammo? My custom is to treat military surplus ammo (except
maybe current production from the US or NATO) as if it is corrosive. I'll
start with a pass or two with wither Simple Green or Windex then I'll "pump"
hot soapy water through the barrel, follow that with clean water and then
run boiling water down the barrel to get anything left. I'll finish the
process with Shooters Choice (usually). Maybe Sweets if it's the end of the
season or I don't plan on using the rifle for a while. Finishing with an
application of a gun oil.

The process seems effective, so I don't plan to change, but I'm wondering
how effective the Shooter's Choice would be if some salts had escaped or if,
in the case of a new purchase, the cleaning had exposed old fouling.

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robert chemberlin

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Jun 6, 2004, 8:46:12 AM6/6/04
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> ...
the gun around in my hands for a few minutes, run a few dry patches, then do
it again. After that I give her a sweep with the boresnake, then a light
coat of oil. That's it. Never had any problems (or rust). Maybe I've just
been lucky so far. My wife already says I "pet" my guns. If I spent that
much time cleaning up after shooting she'd say I must be screwing them.
I'm sure there's a word for a chemical that neutralizes a corrosive, but I
don't know what that word is. Does Shooter's Choice contain such a
chemical?
> ...

KCOM

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Jun 6, 2004, 8:46:25 AM6/6/04
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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC), "BP"
<brcph...@hotmail.com> wrote:

#Any information on the effectiveness of Shooters Choice on cleaning after
#using corrosive ammo? My custom is to treat military surplus ammo (except
#maybe current production from the US or NATO) as if it is corrosive. I'll
#start with a pass or two with wither Simple Green or Windex then I'll "pump"
#hot soapy water through the barrel, follow that with clean water and then
#run boiling water down the barrel to get anything left. I'll finish the
#process with Shooters Choice (usually). Maybe Sweets if it's the end of the
#season or I don't plan on using the rifle for a while. Finishing with an
#application of a gun oil.
#
#The process seems effective, so I don't plan to change, but I'm wondering
#how effective the Shooter's Choice would be if some salts had escaped or if,
#in the case of a new purchase, the cleaning had exposed old fouling.
#


I've used all the Shooter's Choice products (except the shotgun
cleaner) so I know what I'm talking about here. Regular Shooter's
Choice MC 7 will not remove the corrosive primer salt residues, but
their Shooter's Choice Black Powder Bore Cleaning Gel will. Also the
MPro 7 (a.k.a. Hopppe's Elite), RB-17, and Blue Wonder should also
work because these three are water based instead of oil based.

Steve

Rick Courtright

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Jun 7, 2004, 7:19:11 AM6/7/04
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BP wrote:

# start with a pass or two with wither Simple Green or Windex then I'll "pump"
# hot soapy water through the barrel, follow that with clean water and then
# run boiling water down the barrel to get anything left. I'll finish the

Hi,

Seems like a lot of work to me. My Enfield's only seen Hoppe's No. 9 in
the ten years I've been shooting corrosive milsurp in it. Who knows what
care it got in its first 45 years, but it was reasonably bright when I
got it. The bore looks better now than when I got it, so I doubt I'm
doing any harm.

My M-44s got a good dose of boiling water through them when I got them,
but that was more to remove cosmoline than neutralize salts. Since then,
just Hoppe's again. The bores haven't improved as much as the
Enfield--they've got a few tiny pits (neither bore is "dark")--but
neither has gotten worse.

I could be wrong, but it seems to me the time allowed between shooting
and cleaning is a bit more important than the actual cleaning solution
used. I'd think if you're worried, a quick patch with Windex, followed
by a dry patch or two, at the end of your shooting session should do the
trick until you get home and do a "proper" cleaning.

Rick

Jim Shugart

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Jun 7, 2004, 6:21:06 PM6/7/04
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"BP" <brcph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c9tkca$gri$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...
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Bill Wilson (Wilson Combat) says don't shoot it, it just isn't worth
it. The bore must be cleaned within a few hours after shooting.
-Jim

Stan Schaefer

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Jun 7, 2004, 6:21:26 PM6/7/04
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"BP" <brcph...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c9tkca$gri$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...
# Any information on the effectiveness of Shooters Choice on cleaning after
# using corrosive ammo? My custom is to treat military surplus ammo (except
# maybe current production from the US or NATO) as if it is corrosive. I'll
# start with a pass or two with wither Simple Green or Windex then I'll "pump"
# hot soapy water through the barrel, follow that with clean water and then
# run boiling water down the barrel to get anything left. I'll finish the
# process with Shooters Choice (usually). Maybe Sweets if it's the end of the
# season or I don't plan on using the rifle for a while. Finishing with an
# application of a gun oil.
#
# The process seems effective, so I don't plan to change, but I'm wondering
# how effective the Shooter's Choice would be if some salts had escaped or if,
# in the case of a new purchase, the cleaning had exposed old fouling.
#
#
If you're pumping water through as you say, there will be no salt
left. You can skip the Windex, just add some detergent to your hot
water. There's not enough ammonia in Windex to affect any
metal-fouling and the ammonia may get into places you don't want it
and start rusting things. Regular Shooter's Choice is
petroleum-based, that has NO solvent effect on primer salts. If you
get rust, you didn't do a good enough job with the hot water. Your
cleaning process mirrors mine for corrosive ammo, except for the
Windex, and I've had no rust problems afterwards. RIG grease was the
choice for bore preservation back in the corrosive primer era, it's
still available if you feel you really, really need some extra
protection. You do have to wipe it out before shooting. I don't use
it now, but I would if I lived in a constantly humid area like along
the coast or down South. It's a humid summer day if it gets above 15%
around here.

Stan

KCOM

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Jun 8, 2004, 8:47:35 AM6/8/04
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On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:21:26 +0000 (UTC), sta...@prolynx.com (Stan
Schaefer) wrote:
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#RIG grease was the
#choice for bore preservation back in the corrosive primer era, it's
#still available if you feel you really, really need some extra
#protection. .
#
#Stan
#
#


Probably next to cosmolene Rig is the best. I love the stuff.

Steve

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