Mini-14 Ranch - .222 Remington
Segway
At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
in .222 Remington...not .223.
Has anyone ever heard of this before? When did they
make this chambering, how many were made, and did they
sell this particular chambering to a particular market?
Thanks for any info.
Mike
Mike
Segway Industries, Home of the Reticle Leveler
http://www.segway-industries.co
dmal...@earthlink.net
On 12 Oct 1997 21:40:07 -0400, Segway <seg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
#At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
#Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
#in .222 Remington...not .223.
#
#Has anyone ever heard of this before? When did they
#make this chambering, how many were made, and did they
#sell this particular chambering to a particular market?
yes mike they were made for export to countys where civlians could
not own a mil caliber 223 AKA 5.56x45 mm [M-16 round ] would be
illegal so that why you see some 222 remington that is one of the
rare mini -14 varations
Mark Yaworski
On 12 Oct 1997 21:40:07 -0400, Segway <seg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
#At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
#Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
#in .222 Remington...not .223.
#
#Has anyone ever heard of this before? When did they
#make this chambering, how many were made, and did they
#sell this particular chambering to a particular market?
The Blue Book says that .222 Rem Mini 14 was made but now
discontinued. The Ranch Rifle is only listed as being in .223. If
this gun was indeed a Ranch Rifle, perhaps it was a custom job from
the factory. Sure I know that Ruger "doesn't" do custom work but if
you were Bill Ruger's golf partner, I'm sure you could get just about
anything you wanted.
Mark Yaworski, CNA
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Mark Yaworski wrote:
# The Blue Book says that .222 Rem Mini 14 was made but now
# discontinued. The Ranch Rifle is only listed as being in .223.
# If this gun was indeed a Ranch Rifle, perhaps it was a custom job
# from the factory. Sure I know that Ruger "doesn't" do custom work but > if you were Bill Ruger's golf partner, I'm sure you could get just
# about anything you wanted.
I have a .222 RANCH rifle, and what I'm TOLD about it was that a gun
club in England ordered 165 and when the government found out they would
work with 30+ round .223 Mini mags they MADE them cancel the order.
This gun is indeed very rare, and IMO it should command quite a premium
over any other mini.
The serial # range is 187-65xxx for these guns.
Regards,
Gary
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Jack Story
dmal...@earthlink.net wrote:
# On 12 Oct 1997 21:40:07 -0400, Segway <seg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
#
# #At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
# #Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
# #in .222 Remington...not .223.
#
There is a custome jobber in Texas who does conversions like this one.
They are called Accuracy Int. I think. They take mini-14 (and 30's I
think) and make them accurate. They also do conversions and wildcats
depending on what you want and what your mini can handle. They rebarrel
the weapon, machine the gas block and bring those groups down to 1" @
100 yds. The going price for a rebarrell is about $300.
Alex
The Mini 14 in .222 was marketed in various European countries such as
France where although you may own semi auto rifles they may not be in
military calibers.
As far as I know this model / caliber was never offered for sale in the
USA by Ruger and they are not on Ruger's current export price list.
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Segway <seg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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# At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
# Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
# in .222 Remington...not .223.
#
# Has anyone ever heard of this before? When did they
# make this chambering, how many were made, and did they
# sell this particular chambering to a particular market?
#
# Thanks for any info.
#
# Mike
#
#
#
#
# Mike
# Segway Industries, Home of the Reticle Leveler
# http://www.segway-industries.co
#
#
Rod Regier
In article <61ru5n$9...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, Segway <seg...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
# At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
# Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
# in .222 Remington...not .223.
#
# Has anyone ever heard of this before? When did they
# make this chambering, how many were made, and did they
# sell this particular chambering to a particular market?
My understanding is that the .222 Rem chamber was
for export to countries that don't permit civilian firearms
in "military" chamberings. I believe that includes
France, Italy and Mexico, among others.
(Goodness knows, there may be other restrictions in Italy
and Mexico that prohibit possession of a semi-auto rifle...)
Segway
In article <61ru5n$9...@xring.cs.umd.edu>,
Segway <seg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
#At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
#Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
#in .222 Remington...not .223.
Thanks guys...
I never thought I'd get so many direct or followup responses to this question.
It seems Ruger has a very varied background...one which makes collecting their
variations a great hobby.
Thanks again,
Mike
Segway Industries, Home of the Reticle Leveler
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Geoff Kotzar
In article <61t3bq$b...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, yawo...@erols.com (Mark Yaworski) writes:
|> On 12 Oct 1997 21:40:07 -0400, Segway <seg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
|>
|> #At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
|> #Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
|> #in .222 Remington...not .223.
|> #Has anyone ever heard of this before? When did they
|> #make this chambering, how many were made, and did they
|> #sell this particular chambering to a particular market?
|>
|> The Blue Book says that .222 Rem Mini 14 was made but now
|> this gun was indeed a Ranch Rifle, perhaps it was a custom job from
|> the factory. Sure I know that Ruger "doesn't" do custom work but if
|> anything you wanted.
|>
|>
Ruger will in fact do a limited run for any customer will to buy 500 units.
While looking for a factory chambered rille in .300 H&H for a friend's father
we ran into two No. 1's in that chambering. They were part of run that had been
terminated after 80 of the guns had been made. The dealer refused to buy into Ruger's
then-new plan of Ruger-only dealers. He refused to carry only Ruger handguns so
Ruger dropped him from the list of approved dealers and cancelled the order for the
No. 1's. But Ruger does this kind of limited run stuff all the time.
gmk
Danny
In article <61ru5n$9...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, seg...@ix.netcom.com says...
#
#At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
#Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
#in .222 Remington...not .223.
#
#Has anyone ever heard of this before? When did they
#make this chambering, how many were made, and did they
#sell this particular chambering to a particular market?
#Thanks for any info.
#
#Mike
#
#
#
#
#Mike
#Segway Industries, Home of the Reticle Leveler
#http://www.segway-industries.co
#
Some people do not know the difference between a Ranch rifle and a Mini-14
Dan
CAPDPWOODS
#In article <61ru5n$9...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, seg...@ix.netcom.com says...
##
##At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
##Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
##in .222 Remington...not .223.
##
##Has anyone ever heard of this before? When did they
##make this chambering, how many were made, and did they
##sell this particular chambering to a particular market?
#why...@ix.netcom.com (Danny) then says:
#Some people do not know the difference between a Ranch rifle and a Mini-14
MY QUESTION TO DANNY IS: SINCE THE ONLY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A STANDARD MINI-14
AND THE RANCH MODEL ARE A NEW BUFFER SYSTEM, REDESIGNED EJECTOR, AND AN
INTEGRAL SCOPE MOUNT AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE IN THE SAME CALIBERS (.223 AND
7.62X39), WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH HIS QUESTION????
Even if the Ranch model is now available in .222, that was still an
inappropriate response to his question.
Dave Wright
Fluid wrote:
#
# Someone wrote:
# #
# # #At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
# # #Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
# # #in .222 Remington...not .223.
#
# #
# # Some people do not know the difference between a Ranch rifle and a Mini-14
#
# I won't argue that point; it has been well demonstrated in recent days.
# However, how does this apply to the post above? The 1997 Ruger catalog
# lists the Ranch Rifle in both blue and stainless, albeit in .223 only.
# The Ruger official designation is Mini-14/5R in blue, or K-Mini-14/5R in
# stainless. The poster above seems to have properly identified the
# rifle; the .222 chambering is most probably the result of a custom
# barrel.
Not true. Ruger made a run of Mini's in .222 Remington.
Fluid
Someone wrote:
#
# #At a recent local gun show, I saw and handled a
# #Ruger Mini-14 Stainless Ranch Rifle chambered
# #in .222 Remington...not .223.
#
# Some people do not know the difference between a Ranch rifle and a Mini-14
I won't argue that point; it has been well demonstrated in recent days.
However, how does this apply to the post above? The 1997 Ruger catalog
lists the Ranch Rifle in both blue and stainless, albeit in .223 only.
The Ruger official designation is Mini-14/5R in blue, or K-Mini-14/5R in
stainless. The poster above seems to have properly identified the
rifle; the .222 chambering is most probably the result of a custom
barrel.
Jay T
John Moore
Ruger made Mini 14s in .222 some years ago, principally for export.
They were intended for shooters in countries where it is prohibited
for citizens to own weapons in military calibers. I know France for
certain, but I'm not sure about the others. Some of these were sold
on the US market, but they are not common. I'd pick one up just to
have it.
Fluid
Someone shouted:
# SINCE THE ONLY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A STANDARD MINI-14
# AND THE RANCH MODEL ARE A NEW BUFFER SYSTEM, REDESIGNED EJECTOR, AND AN
# INTEGRAL SCOPE MOUNT AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE IN THE SAME CALIBERS (.223 AND
# 7.62X39), WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH HIS QUESTION????
My 1995 and 1997 Ruger catalogs clearly state that the Mini-14 Ranch
Rifle was/is available only in .223 Remington, and has a fold-down rear
sight not found on the standard Mini-14. Only the Mini-Thirty is
available in the 7.62x39 chambering. Seems like some people still don't
know the difference between the Mini-14 and the Mini-14 Ranch
Rifle....%^)
Jay T
MGS70
#Someone shouted:
#
## SINCE THE ONLY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A STANDARD MINI-14
## AND THE RANCH MODEL ARE A NEW BUFFER SYSTEM, REDESIGNED EJECTOR, AND AN
## INTEGRAL SCOPE MOUNT AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE IN THE SAME CALIBERS (.223
#AND
## 7.62X39), WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH HIS QUESTION????
#
#My 1995 and 1997 Ruger catalogs clearly state that the Mini-14 Ranch
#Rifle was/is available only in .223 Remington, and has a fold-down rear
#sight not found on the standard Mini-14. Only the Mini-Thirty is
#available in the 7.62x39 chambering. Seems like some people still don't
#know the difference between the Mini-14 and the Mini-14 Ranch
#Rifle....%^)
#
#Jay T
#
#
#
Hmmm..my owners manual for my ..223 Ranch rifle states that there was indeed a
.222 chambering availible....they use the same owners manual...while the
mini-30 uses a diff. one...must have been a limited run the .222...probably
was produced years back also...just my 2 cents worth...
rcm...@idir.net
In article <62f6rm$n...@xring.cs.umd.edu>,
Fluid <fl...@alaska.net> wrote:
#Someone shouted:
#
## SINCE THE ONLY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A STANDARD
MINI-14
## AND THE RANCH MODEL ARE A NEW BUFFER SYSTEM,
REDESIGNED EJECTOR, AND AN
## INTEGRAL SCOPE MOUNT AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE
## 7.62X39), WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH HIS
QUESTION????
#
#My 1995 and 1997 Ruger catalogs clearly state
that the Mini-14 Ranch
#Rifle was/is available only in .223 Remington,
and has a fold-down rear
#sight not found on the standard Mini-14. Only
the Mini-Thirty is
#available in the 7.62x39 chambering. Seems like
some people still don't
#know the difference between the Mini-14 and the
Mini-14 Ranch
#Rifle....%^)
#
#Jay T
#
RE: Or the differance between the Mini-14,
(.223), Mini-14 Ranch, (.223), or even the
Mini-Thirty, (7.62x39).
:)
rc
Fluid
Someone wrote:
#
# Hmmm..my owners manual for my ..223 Ranch rifle states that there was indeed a
# mini-30 uses a diff. one...must have been a limited run the .222...probably
# was produced years back also...
Interesting, but this has been already discussed in the NG - there WAS a
limited run of .222s, apparently for export. The big question still
remains ( from the ORIGINAL post): is his Stainless Steel Mini-14 in
.222 a factory original? This is EASILY answered by the original poster
if he will check the barrel markings. Then we could all sleep well,
knowing the facts. %^)
Jay T