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HOW DO U RE-COCK L.C. SMITH?

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abud...@webtv.net

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Jul 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/26/99
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Dumb question, maybe...but not too much experiece with SXS shotguns. I
have an LC
Smith that had the foreend and barrels taken off
after the gun had been fired and before the locks were recocked. How do
you get the gun
re-cocked so that the foreend can be put back on. I assume there is an
easy way to do this, but don't know what it is.

Would appreciate an e-mail if anyone knows

a budnick


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Peter

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Jul 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/27/99
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It would amaze me if your shotgun needed recocking before the forend could
be reassembled. I never seen the brand you mention but I've handled quite
some SXS guns before. Neither of them needed recocking of the lock.
Peter

abud...@webtv.net heeft geschreven in bericht
<7nj138$g21$1...@xring.cs.umd.edu>...
#Dumb question, maybe...but not too much experiece with SXS shotguns. I
#have an LC
#Smith that had the foreend and barrels taken off
#after the gun had been fired and before the locks were recocked. How do
#you get the gun
#re-cocked so that the foreend can be put back on. I assume there is an
#easy way to do this, but don't know what it is.
#Would appreciate an e-mail if anyone knows

keith whaley

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Jul 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/28/99
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Peter wrote:
#
# It would amaze me if your shotgun needed recocking before the forend could
# be reassembled. I never seen the brand you mention but I've handled quite
# some SXS guns before. Neither of them needed recocking of the lock.
# Peter

Hi Peter,

I'm glad you've never run across that situation, but believe me, it does occur.
It happens when a side-by is broken down and while the barrel and forend is
off, someone pulls the trigger(s), dropping the hammer(s).
The cocking mechanism lever changes position, and interferes with reassembly
in some manner.

All of which means you MUST get those hammers recocked before you can complete re-assembly.
Sometimes it's a lever inside the floor cutout of the breechblock, sometimes
it's a pin or lever that protrudes from the front end of the
receiver/breechblock extension, but DO need to be moved out of the way, to
allow the gun to be re-assembled.

Once, and I don't recall which gun it was, I even had to remove the buttstock
to re-cock the hammers by hand, before I could get the gun put back together.
Be thankful you've never seen it happen.
Sometimes it's relatively easy to get the hammers cocked again, sometimes it's
not at all easy!

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# abud...@webtv.net heeft geschreven in bericht
# <7nj138$g21$1...@xring.cs.umd.edu>...
# #Dumb question, maybe...but not too much experiece with SXS shotguns. I
# #have an LC
# #Smith that had the foreend and barrels taken off
# #after the gun had been fired and before the locks were recocked.

I suspect the sequence you report is a little out of whack.
On all the side-bys I know about, the act of breaking the barrels downward
cocks the hammers, so when the barrels and forend come off, the hammers cannot
be forward (un-cocked).
I believe it must have been another situation where the triggers were pulled
AFTER the buttstock/receiver assembly were separated.

# #How do you get the gun
# #re-cocked so that the foreend can be put back on. I assume there is an
# #easy way to do this, but don't know what it is.
# #Would appreciate an e-mail if anyone knows

I don't have one in the shop right now, so I can't check what I'm about to
say, but the LC Smith has little crank-shaped levers you must rotate, in order
to re-cock the hammers.
I suspect the lever pins in the front of the receiver extension on your gun
are close together if the hammers are down.
They must be (looking at the front of the receiver) rotated so they are
further apart.
I believe each lever tip must be rotated downward. In other words, the right
one rotates CCW, and the left one CW.
It could be the opposite from my description, but I don't think so...

Hope that helps,

keith whaley
gunsmith/owner
WHALEY's, Los Angeles

Jay Roehl

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Jul 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/28/99
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On 27 Jul 1999 21:36:27 -0400, "Peter" <pev...@village.uunet.be>
wrote:

#It would amaze me if your shotgun needed recocking before the forend could
#be reassembled. I never seen the brand you mention but I've handled quite
#some SXS guns before. Neither of them needed recocking of the lock.
#Peter
#-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then you will be amazed. You will have to re-cock it to get the
forearm back on it, been there done that. I would have to say that an
L.C. is probably the only side by side that you have to do this, but
it indeed has to be done. NEVER, take a forearm off an L.C. without
cocking it first. With mine, I just removed the side plates and
re-cocked it by hand and them reassembled. You only do this once. I
did see a tool in Brophy's book about the L.C. Smith shotguns that the
factory used to do this with, but where one could come up with one, I
would not know.

Jay Roehl

GUNSURGEON

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Jul 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/29/99
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there should be 2 rods protruding through the front of the receiver..put the
receiver in the vise gloves and take a punch the size of the rods and push them
back toward the receiver... re,member the opening latch must be in the 'open '
point or all the way to the right push the rods untill you hear the sears
catch into lock . then put the barrels on and then the forend .. if any
differant get back to me .. as im not always right.. the other would be the
"tounge "type which just lifts up again untill you hear it click into the
sears

Peter

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Jul 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/29/99
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I am amazed...LOL. Thanks for the info.
Peter


#Then you will be amazed. You will have to re-cock it to get the
#forearm back on it, been there done that. I would have to say that an
#L.C. is probably the only side by side that you have to do this, but
#it indeed has to be done. NEVER, take a forearm off an L.C. without
#cocking it first. With mine, I just removed the side plates and
#re-cocked it by hand and them reassembled. You only do this once. I
#did see a tool in Brophy's book about the L.C. Smith shotguns that the
#factory used to do this with, but where one could come up with one, I
#would not know.
#Jay Roehl

keith whaley

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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GUNSURGEON wrote:
#
# there should be 2 rods protruding through the front of the receiver..put the
# receiver in the vise gloves and take a punch the size of the rods and push them
# back toward the receiver... re,member the opening latch must be in the 'open '
# point or all the way to the right push the rods untill you hear the sears
# catch into lock . then put the barrels on and then the forend .. if any
# differant get back to me .. as im not always right.. the other would be the
# "tounge "type which just lifts up again untill you hear it click into the
# sears
so on an L.C. Smith, Gunsurgeon....
It works differently from most other doubles, as the "crank-style" levers
sticking out of the front of the receiver have to be ROTATED, not pushed back in...
See my post previous to this one.

keith whaley

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