Caliber 45-90 for Marlin model 1895
Bengt Lindqvist
anybody advise if possible to use 45-70 Government instead. Original
specifications (from 1902) mention cartridge 45-85 smokeless as OK for
this model chambered for 45-70. Confusing!!
Bengt Lindqvist
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David King
<B.Lin...@bentrex.pp.fi> wrote:
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Have you tried the old western scrounger, i think that is thier name. They
carry all kinds of ammo.
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David K These are my opinions.......so get your own
JAMES SULLIVAN
I checked my Barnes Cartridges of the World book and it says that Marlin
chambered their model 1985 for the Winchester 45-90 also known as 45-82 and
45-85 same case different loads . the smokeless version was loaded from 1895
until 1936 and fired a 300 grain bullet at 1970 f/s
Barnes goes on to say that the 45-90 case is practically identical to the
45-70 case only longer and it is common practice to fire 45-70 cartridges in
45-70 guns . Case length of the 45-90 is 2.4 inches case length of the 45-70 is
2.1 inches .
I enjoy shooting old rifles like yours last year I shot my deer with a
Winchester model 1907 in .351 self load that was made in 1917 . Make sure your
gun is safe before you shoot it there are many things that can be wrong with a
gun after the years and different owners . This year I am hunting with a
Springfield Model 1884 (Trapdoor) built in 1889.
good shooting Jim Sullivan ,
Michigan
Bengt Lindqvist wrote:
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Bterr
1-800-237-4444) has .45-90 ammunition. The s-mail address is One Cabela Dr.
Sidney, Ne 69160, USA
John Gross
#
# Cannot obtain cartridges for my Marlin model 1895, caliber 45-90. Can
# anybody advise if possible to use 45-70 Government instead. Original
# specifications (from 1902) mention cartridge 45-85 smokeless as OK for
# this model chambered for 45-70. Confusing!!
#
45-90 can be made from 45 basic brass. A might expensive but I believe
it is about your only alternative. I *think* that 45-70 can be fired in
a 45-90, much like a 38 Special can be fired in a 357 Maggie. Accuracy
may suffer due to a longer bullet jump and the chamber may need some
extra cleaning due to lead build-up.
As to the 45-85 this was one of Marlins versions of the 45-70. By using
a lighter bullet (I believe 265 grains) they were able to squeeze more
powder into the case. Sharps had the 45-75 and the US Government had two
loadings for the TD Springfields, a 45-55 for carbines and the 45-70 for
rifles. All of these cartridges, the 45-55, 45-70, 45-75 and 45-85 are
one in the same. To confuse matters more there were a few TD target
rifles made in 45-80 but it is not the same case. This is why oldtimes
often refered to a cartridge by its caliber *and* case length, in this
instance it would be 45 2 1/10" for what we call the 45-70, and 45 2
4/10" for the 45-80 target round. But then, Sharps loaded 90 grains in
the 45 2 4/10" and ... <g>
John Gross
confe...@worldnet.att.net
COArgonaut
powder loads for sale. 300 g bullet.
The bad news is they are $80 a box.
Cheers
fl...@alaska.net
#Don't try to use ammunition that is not .45-90. Cabela's (phone
#1-800-237-4444) has .45-90 ammunition.
Actually, .45-70 ammunition will fire safely in the 1895, but there
may or may not be feed problems. The 2.88" loa of the .45-90 ( CotW
data ) versus the 2.9" for some .45-70 loads ( Hornady ) is pretty
close though. Extended firing of the short cases could cause some
chamber errosion, but it would take a Very long time IF it ever
happened. This is a much over-rated risk with modern centerfire
cartridges.
The Cabella's .45-90 ammo is BP I believe, and rather costly at that.
.45-90 cases can be made from .45 basic brass too.
Jay T