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Primer Size for .223 and .30-06?

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joshh...@fastmail.fm

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Dec 25, 2008, 6:30:41 PM12/25/08
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I've done a lot of 9mm reloading; may start reloading for my AR-15 and
M-1 Garand soon. What size primers do these two calibers require?
I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
but would like verification before I buy the primers.


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Flash

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:35:19 AM12/26/08
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<joshh...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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# I've done a lot of 9mm reloading; may start reloading for my AR-15 and
# M-1 Garand soon. What size primers do these two calibers require?
# I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
# but would like verification before I buy the primers.
#
#

This time, your guess is right.

I would suggest a loaidng manual, many varieties of which are avialable on
line and at your local gunshops/sporting goods outlets.

Flash

Robert Hankins

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:35:17 AM12/26/08
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You are correct on both. Small rifle for AR and Large Rifle for M1.

Chasseur

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:35:24 AM12/26/08
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..223 small rifle
..30-06 large rifle

Chasseur
Canada

Bill Swafford

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:35:25 AM12/26/08
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:30:41 +0000 (UTC), joshh...@fastmail.fm
wrote:

#I've done a lot of 9mm reloading; may start reloading for my AR-15 and
#M-1 Garand soon. What size primers do these two calibers require?
#I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
#but would like verification before I buy the primers.

..223 Remington uses small rifle primers, 30-06 uses large rifle
primers. Personally, I like winchester primers. You probably ought
to pick up a reloading manual as well.

Omelet

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:35:29 AM12/26/08
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In article <gj1531$plm$1...@news.albasani.net>, joshh...@fastmail.fm
wrote:

# I've done a lot of 9mm reloading; may start reloading for my AR-15 and
# M-1 Garand soon. What size primers do these two calibers require?
# I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
# but would like verification before I buy the primers.

I agree with your guess, but that information should also be in your
loading tables. I use small rifle for my .223 and large rifle for .308.
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Peace! Om

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Louis Boyd

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:35:34 AM12/26/08
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joshh...@fastmail.fm wrote:
# I've done a lot of 9mm reloading; may start reloading for my AR-15 and
# M-1 Garand soon. What size primers do these two calibers require?
# I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
# but would like verification before I buy the primers.
#
You are correct.

Robert Scott

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:35:30 AM12/26/08
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<joshh...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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# I've done a lot of 9mm reloading; may start reloading for my AR-15 and
# M-1 Garand soon. What size primers do these two calibers require?
# I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
# but would like verification before I buy the primers.

Small Rifle for the .223
Large Rifle for the '06

Good shooting,
desmobob

RosemontCrest

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:35:32 AM12/26/08
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The .223 does indeed use Small Rifle primers (e.g. CCI 400); some
loads use magnum primers (CCI 450). The .30-06 uses Large Rifle
primers (CCI 200); some loads use magnum primers (CCI 250).

zivend...@yahoo.com

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:35:38 AM12/26/08
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On Dec 25, 4:30 pm, joshhemm...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 What size primers do these two calibers require?
# I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
# but would like verification before I buy the primers.

Small rifle for the AR-15, large rifle for the M-1 Rifle and small
rifle for the M-1 Carbine. Unless your loading manual specifies a
magnum primer for a particular load, you should stick with standard

Dennis Mickey

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:36:36 AM12/26/08
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Give that man a cigar!! Doesn't your reloading manual(s) tell you that on
the pages for the two cartridges? You do have at least one (or more)
manual?

Tim Douglass

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:36:40 AM12/26/08
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:30:41 +0000 (UTC), joshh...@fastmail.fm
wrote:

#I've done a lot of 9mm reloading; may start reloading for my AR-15 and
#M-1 Garand soon. What size primers do these two calibers require?
#I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
#but would like verification before I buy the primers.

This kind of question always makes me cringe, because it sounds to me
like you are planning to start reloading these calibers without even
looking at a reloading manual for them. That information is part of
every load recipe I have ever seen, so if you have done the most basic
of homework before starting on a new caliber you should have that in
hand. The simple answer to your question is yes, small for .223 and
large for 30/06, but there are other things to consider especially
loading for the M-1 and in particular if you are using military brass.
I gave you the answer, but I trust you are doing adequate research
prior to diving in.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

Long Ranger

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:36:41 AM12/26/08
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<joshh...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:gj1531$plm$1...@news.albasani.net...
# I've done a lot of 9mm reloading; may start reloading for my AR-15 and
# M-1 Garand soon. What size primers do these two calibers require?
# I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
# but would like verification before I buy the primers.

I'm sure that is listed in your load data. Good guess though. The Winchester
small rifle primer seems to be the most popular for the .223 in my circle of
friends, and the Federal large rifle primer seems to be popular for the '06
based cases.

Bluehawk99

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:36:45 AM12/26/08
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The proper terms for those primers would be small rifle and large
rifle and you would be correct to use those for the AR and Garand.
Some prefer to use mil-spec sensitive primers which are harder to
ignite in order to avoid slam fires but it isn't always necessary as
long as you keep the primer pockets clean and seat the primers below
flush of the top of the pocket and keep the firing pin channels clean.
It's up to you to decide if you want to use standard or mil-spec.

Robert Lewis

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:36:46 AM12/26/08
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5.56 (.223) uses small rifle primers. The Garand (30-06) uses large rifle

jadel

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Dec 26, 2008, 8:36:48 AM12/26/08
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On Dec 25, 6:30 pm, joshhemm...@fastmail.fm wrote:
# I've done a lot of 9mm reloading; may start reloading for my AR-15 and
# M-1 Garand soon.  What size primers do these two calibers require?
# I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
# but would like verification before I buy the primers.
#


Don't 'guess.' Before you start reloading them, invest in a reloading
manual.

--Every-- reloader should have at least one. But you are correct--
the .223 uses small rifle primers, and the 30-06 uses large rifle
primers.

J. Del Col

BP

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Dec 26, 2008, 5:40:13 PM12/26/08
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:30:41 +0000 (UTC), joshh...@fastmail.fm wrote:

# I've done a lot of 9mm reloading; may start reloading for my AR-15 and
# M-1 Garand soon. What size primers do these two calibers require?
# I'm guessing Small Rifle for the AR and Standard Rifle for the M-1,
# but would like verification before I buy the primers.
#
Others have addressed your primer questions. You seem new to reloading for
the M1. The choice of powder is VERY important when loading for the M1 if
you want to avoid damaging the op rod. Check the manuals and web for the
powders that are in the correct range of burn rates but I've come to favor
IMR 4064, IMR 4895 and, most recently, H4895 (It seems to give consistent
velocities over the widest range of temperatures) with 150 gr. and 165 gr.
Remington PSP being favorites bullets (based on cost/accuracy compromises.

joshh...@fastmail.fm

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Dec 27, 2008, 8:05:14 AM12/27/08
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Thanks guys....I'll definitely buy a reloading manual before setting
up for rifle calibers. Just wanted to know the primer sizes
beforehand because I'm thinking about ordering a thousand or so of
each before Obama can drive up the price any more than he has
already.

Martin H. Eastburn

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Dec 27, 2008, 8:05:23 AM12/27/08
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I make 6.5mm out of .223 and use small rifle. I don't do 30-06.

Martin

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