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KCOM

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May 9, 2001, 9:21:20 PM5/9/01
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On the wooden stock of one of my rifles, when I tighten the sling swivel studs,
I noticed that they're misaligned. Is there a glue, epoxy, and/or putty I can
use for this, if so, what is it? If this is not the correct procedure, what is,
and how do you do it? Has anyone else here ever had that problem, if so, what
did you do about it? Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

Steve


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Ken Marsh

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May 10, 2001, 12:57:14 PM5/10/01
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Hi,


KCOM <KC...@Switchboardmail.com> wrote:
#On the wooden stock of one of my rifles, when I tighten the sling swivel studs,
#I noticed that they're misaligned. Is there a glue, epoxy, and/or putty I can
#use for this, if so, what is it? If this is not the correct procedure, what is,
#and how do you do it? Has anyone else here ever had that problem, if so, what
#did you do about it? Any input would be appreciated.

By misaligned, I take it to mean that it is not exactly perpendicular
to the stock. I also take it that you are somewhat like me, in that
you are bothered when everything is not as they should be with our
firearms. There are solutions, not counting getting stress counseling
or selling said firearm:

1. Unscrew said stud, put a disk or washer on it. Of course, you'll have
to find the correct thickness of washer. Good luck.

2. Realize that it doesn't have to be perfect and let it alone. This
might involve the stress counseling though and therefore not a real
option.

I had this problem with a shotgun I hunt with frequently. I accidently
solved the problem by losing the foreend stud and now I can't use a
sling with the gun, and now I come home with tired hands but no feeling
of misaligned stud frustration. When I ordered the front stud I got two,
but I haven't seen the second one since I moved. Maybe that means I have
a case of latent stud frustration. Unless someone stages an
intervention, I'm going to try and see how long I can get away with this
state of affairs. Maybe this should be labeled the third solution. If so
you'll have to find someone to lose a stud or two for you. I understand
Brothers-in-law are handy for this short of thing. The best tact is to
indicate that the gun is worthless but the studs are priceless; this
helps assure the loss of the proper component.

If you have any issues with this post, please consider that you did
say, "Any input would be appreciated.".

Yours,
Ken.
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arn_werks

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May 10, 2001, 11:59:35 PM5/10/01
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Steve:
You do not state just exactly how the studs are mis-aligned.
With a decent wooded stock, it is possible, but tedious to fill
a hole with either a commercial wood putty or with a mix of a
fairly slow setting epoxy ( 3 to 4 hours ) mixed with wood that
you have scraped from under the butt plate or from the barrel
channel. Just make as fine a sawdust as you can from the wood
and mix as much as you can into the epoxy and fill the hole with
the mix. It is not easy, but if you are patient, it can be
done. Then carefully drill the new hole for the stud and place
it correctly.

If the studs are centered, but at an angle, mark one side and
place the stud in a vice and using a hammer and punch, bend it
into alignment.

If neither of those cases apply, describe the problem a little
more and I'm sure that someone will have decent solution.
Cordially,
Red


KCOM wrote:
> ...

KCOM

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May 11, 2001, 12:13:07 AM5/11/01
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#===== Original Message From kma...@charm.net (Ken Marsh) =====
#Hi,
#
#
#KCOM <KC...@Switchboardmail.com> wrote:
##On the wooden stock of one of my rifles, when I tighten the sling swivel
studs,
##I noticed that they're misaligned. Is there a glue, epoxy, and/or putty I
can
##use for this, if so, what is it? If this is not the correct procedure, what
is,
##and how do you do it? Has anyone else here ever had that problem, if so,
what
##did you do about it? Any input would be appreciated.
#
#By misaligned, I take it to mean that it is not exactly perpendicular
#to the stock. I also take it that you are somewhat like me, in that
#you are bothered when everything is not as they should be with our
#firearms. There are solutions, not counting getting stress counseling
#or selling said firearm:
#
#1. Unscrew said stud, put a disk or washer on it. Of course, you'll have
#to find the correct thickness of washer. Good luck.
#
#2. Realize that it doesn't have to be perfect and let it alone. This
#might involve the stress counseling though and therefore not a real
#option.
#
#I had this problem with a shotgun I hunt with frequently. I accidently
#solved the problem by losing the foreend stud and now I can't use a
#sling with the gun, and now I come home with tired hands but no feeling
#of misaligned stud frustration. When I ordered the front stud I got two,
#but I haven't seen the second one since I moved. Maybe that means I have
#a case of latent stud frustration. Unless someone stages an
#intervention, I'm going to try and see how long I can get away with this
#state of affairs. Maybe this should be labeled the third solution. If so
#you'll have to find someone to lose a stud or two for you. I understand
#Brothers-in-law are handy for this short of thing. The best tact is to
#indicate that the gun is worthless but the studs are priceless; this
#helps assure the loss of the proper component.
#
#If you have any issues with this post, please consider that you did
#say, "Any input would be appreciated.".
#
#Yours,
#Ken.
#--
#-------------------------------------------------------------------------


HaHaHaHa, very cute Ken, very cute.

Steve
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Peter Torvik

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May 12, 2001, 9:37:21 AM5/12/01
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#
sling swivel studs,
# I noticed that they're misaligned. what did you do about it?

There is another solution for the front swivel stud. They come in two
types: wood screw thread, and machine screw thread with a "nut" that goes in
the bottom of the barrel channel. If you have the one with the wood screw
thread, you can probably replace it with the machine thread type, and then
tighten the "nut" in the barrel channel with it properly aligned. On the
butt stock, you also would have the option of countersinking it just enough
to line up. Naturally, you could also countersink the front a bit.

Peter Torvik

Ron Seiden

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May 12, 2001, 10:47:13 AM5/12/01
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"arn_werks" <arn_...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3AFAAC7C...@mindspring.com...
# Steve:
# You do not state just exactly how the studs are mis-aligned.
# With a decent wooded stock, it is possible, but tedious to fill
# a hole with either a commercial wood putty or with a mix of a
# fairly slow setting epoxy ( 3 to 4 hours ) mixed with wood that
# you have scraped from under the butt plate or from the barrel
<snip>

So I guess I shouldn't mention my sleazy method for repairing screw holes:
toothpicks & Elmer's glue. Fill the hole with glue & keep inserting
toothpicks & breaking them off flush, until no more will go in, wiping off
the glue that gets pushed out. Either let dry, or just re-insert the screw &
then let it dry. This is usually much more respectable for door hinges where
this repair gets hidden.

WVanhou237

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May 12, 2001, 10:48:47 AM5/12/01
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In article <9dfosj$c5p$1...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, KCOM <KC...@MailAndNews.com>
writes:
#-----------------------<
## The best tact is to
##indicate that the gun is worthless but the studs are priceless; this
##helps assure the loss of the proper component.
##
##If you have any issues with this post, please consider that you did
##say, "Any input would be appreciated.".
##Yours,
##Ken.
##--------------------------------------------------------------------------
#
#HaHaHaHa, very cute Ken, very cute.
# Steve

I thought it was as good an answer as any. Personally I would be perturbed
if my swivel studs weren't loose enough to swivel a little on their own.
Particularly the front one. Actually QD sling swivels are misnamed. They
don't swivel. They flap.------ QD sling flaps ? Sounds like a good title for
this
string.
Bill Van Houten (USA Ret)
"No matter how hard you try, you can't throw a potato chip very far."
"Linus"

KCOM

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May 13, 2001, 9:51:21 AM5/13/01
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wvanh...@aol.com (WVanhou237) wrote:
#In article <9dfosj$c5p$1...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, KCOM <KC...@MailAndNews.com>
#writes:
##-----------------------<
### The best tact is to
###indicate that the gun is worthless but the studs are priceless; this
###helps assure the loss of the proper component.
###
###If you have any issues with this post, please consider that you did
###say, "Any input would be appreciated.".
###Yours,
###Ken.
###--------------------------------------------------------------------------
##
##HaHaHaHa, very cute Ken, very cute.
## Steve
#
#I thought it was as good an answer as any. Personally I would be perturbed
#if my swivel studs weren't loose enough to swivel a little on their own.

#Particularly the front one. Actually QD sling swivels are misnamed. They
#don't swivel. They flap.------ QD sling flaps ? Sounds like a good title
for
#this
#string.
# Bill Van Houten (USA Ret)
# "No matter how hard you try, you can't throw a potato chip very far."
#"Linus"
#
#
#
#
#
#
#
#------------------------------------------------------------------------


Actually, I'll probably go with Mr. Marsh's washer solution. When I get
time, I'll get my Brownell's catalog and see what they have.
Steve


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Riff Randall

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May 13, 2001, 9:55:14 AM5/13/01
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On 12 May 2001 10:47:13 -0400, "Ron Seiden" <rse...@alphaaccess.net> wrote:
#"arn_werks" <arn_...@mindspring.com> wrote in message

## You do not state just exactly how the studs are mis-aligned.
## With a decent wooded stock, it is possible, but tedious to fill
## a hole with either a commercial wood putty or with a mix of a
## fairly slow setting epoxy ( 3 to 4 hours ) mixed with wood that
## you have scraped from under the butt plate or from the barrel
#<snip>

#So I guess I shouldn't mention my sleazy method for repairing screw holes:
#toothpicks & Elmer's glue. Fill the hole with glue & keep inserting
#toothpicks & breaking them off flush, until no more will go in, wiping off
#the glue that gets pushed out. Either let dry, or just re-insert the screw &
#then let it dry. This is usually much more respectable for door hinges where
#this repair gets hidden.

And here I've been doing it the hard way by reaming the hole out to fit a wooden dowel rod
coated with glue, then redrilling. I've only done this for stripped buttplate screws
though.
Riff Randall

arn_werks

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Jun 2, 2001, 6:02:52 PM6/2/01
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Ron:
I think that if I had either the same or a similar color wood,
that your idea is really good and I will probably use it if I
need to. Everyone should should have a little sleaze in their
life, so don't worry.
Thanks for sharing a good idea,
Cordially,
Red

Ron Seiden wrote:
> ...

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