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Citrus base solvent as bore cleaner?

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TN65X57

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Oct 31, 2002, 8:57:15 PM10/31/02
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We see ads for cleaning everything with them.
I use either the pumice or plain formulations on my hands to clean everything I
get on them, and they work great.

Why wouldn't one of the citrus base cleaners work to clean barrels on firearms.

They seem to work as a polar and non-polar solvent, or at least can emulsify
non-polar substances.

If they have water in them, couldn't they be based with a organic solvent?

LouisB

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Hemlock Soames

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Nov 1, 2002, 10:29:22 AM11/1/02
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:57:15 +0000 (UTC), tn6...@aol.com (TN65X57)
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#We see ads for cleaning everything with them.
#I use either the pumice or plain formulations on my hands to clean everything I
#get on them, and they work great.
#
#Why wouldn't one of the citrus base cleaners work to clean barrels on firearms.
#
#They seem to work as a polar and non-polar solvent, or at least can emulsify
#non-polar substances.
#
#If they have water in them, couldn't they be based with a organic solvent?
#
#LouisB
#
#Nosey minds want to know!

Depends on what you mean by 'citrus'. Does it have citric acid in
it? Citric acid is mild, to be sure, but it is still an acid. I've
seen it specified as a replacement for sulphuric acid when a slower
action is acceptable.

Soames


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Randy Wakeman

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Nov 1, 2002, 10:30:42 AM11/1/02
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#Why wouldn't one of the citrus base cleaners work to clean barrels on
#firearms.

They sell them.

However, you don't see much lead / powder / copper residue on your kitchen
countertop.
Randy Wakeman

Kenneth Coney

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Nov 1, 2002, 10:36:49 AM11/1/02
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Because they dissolve grease and grease is not the only thing you are trying to
remove from a bore. You need a cleaner that softens lead, copper and brass too.


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George

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Nov 1, 2002, 8:50:36 PM11/1/02
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I believe that these compounds would be corrosive to metal. You would also
have to remove them with water.
George in Las Vegas

USC

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Nov 1, 2002, 8:56:23 PM11/1/02
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Cabela's includes a citrus-based solvent in their black powder starter
kits (which generally contain swagged lead balls, powder flask,
wadding, nipple wrench, extra nipples, patch lube and cleaning
solution); it seemed to do the trick on black powder residue/grease
with my 1861 Navy revolver and smelled pretty good, but for black
powder firearms hot soapy water generally works best. I wouldn't be
inclined to use it on my modern smokeless arms, but that's just me.

USC

jimgal

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Nov 5, 2002, 7:04:01 PM11/5/02
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tn6...@aol.com (TN65X57) wrote in message news:<apsn1r$ic0$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...
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I manufacture and distribute a citrus based hydrogen peroxide cleaner
called
O-2-CLEAN. www.o2clean.com Proper citrus based cleaners are not
citric acid based they are d-limonene based which is a solvent
extracted from orange peels. D-limonene has been used for years in
the food industry to clean petroleum grease from non food contact
surfaces. It should work fine on the bores of firearms. Yes water
should be used to clean it but when diluted properly just a damp cloth
or patch should suffice. Followed by normal lubrication I do not see
a problem with it. I will give it a try on one of my antique
Winchesters.

Jim
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Randy Wakeman

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Nov 6, 2002, 1:52:59 PM11/6/02
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#D-limonene has been used for years in
#the food industry to clean petroleum grease from non food contact
#surfaces.


Firearm bore cleaning has nothing to do with grease removal.

You are removing powder residue, lead, plastic, and copper fouling.

Randy Wakeman

Mark Allread

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Nov 6, 2002, 6:10:23 PM11/6/02
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On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:52:59 +0000 (UTC), randy...@aol.com (Randy Wakeman) wrote:
# #D-limonene has been used for years in
# #the food industry to clean petroleum grease from non food contact
# #surfaces.
#
#
# Firearm bore cleaning has nothing to do with grease removal.

Never had a C&R loaded with Cosmolene, have you?

jimgal

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JIM
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