Help with jammed revolver
jth...@rssm.com
Hey all,
A friend of mine owns a Taurus 606 in .357 Magnum. One day while shooting
at the local public range, we noticed that his revolver would sometimes "hang
up" during double action fire--the cylinder would refuse to turn. Single
action fire corrected this problem, at least for the time being.
Yesterday, he showed up at my place with said revolver, which had
apparently jammed while he was at the range. The cylinder would not rotate,
and we were unable to release the cylinder by using the cylinder latch.
Worst of all, there were six live Eldorado Starfires in the chamber.
I removed the sideplate and attempted to release the cylinder. By using a
thin-edged knife, I was able to release the cylinder stop, so the cylinder
would rotate freely within the frame, and the cylinder would move slightly
out of the frame. However, the cylinder still would not release completely
from the frame of the revolver itself.
I told him to take it to a gunsmith, but I am puzzled by the problem. Since
the cylinder was able to freely rotate within the frame (after we released
the cylinder stop), I do not think it was the cylinder stop or the revolver's
hand that was causing the jam. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Justin
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CRCooper
My recent reply to this post used the words "Cylinder crane" - I see where
Taurus calls that part "Cylinder yoke" - P/N 43 "yoke screw" located on the
front of the sideplate is the one that is probably backing out and needs the
Locktite.
E mail me if you would like a copy of the disassembly drawing.
Coop
drag...@pacbell.net
From the symptoms you discussed I have several possiblities that come
readily to mind.
1: Binding on the hand pivot-pin. The hand is the little lever that
turns the cylinder. If it's pivot pin is binding for any reason, it
can effectively lock up the gun.
2: Binding of the hand in the recoil-plate slot. Again, if the hand
gets hung up partway through rotation, this can lock up the gun.
3: Misaligned trigger or rebound bar (internally). If either of these
parts do not lie flat and square with each other they can "tilt" in
their plane-of-operation, causing binding of other parts. (this may
be why the DA mode didn't work and the SA mode did work, since there
was less pressure on the trigger in SA mode.
4: Loose ejector rod (under barrel). If this backs out it can lock up
the gun's rotation. Typically reversing the rotation several turns
allows enough free play to open the cylinder and fix the loose rod
with loctite.
5: Cylinder misalignment - Check the cylinder gap between cylinder &
barrel for every cylinder. Especially in muzzle down position. Must
have equal clearance on all cylinders. Also check for fore/aft
movement and any rough surfaces on the recoil plate (rear of cylinder
area).
6: Reloaded ammo "walking" the bullet out of the case mouth & protruding
beyond the cylinder. Conversely, high seated primers in reloads which
drag on the recoil plate. Check cases/primers for scratches.
M808state
Had Similar trouble with my Colt Anaconda (44 Mag) not long ago. It would
release if you simply spun the cylinder backwards a little. Took it to a
gunsmith and he replaced a spring for a couple of buck ($40) and it is good as
new. He told me many revolvers show this problem (bad or worn spring) from the
factory.
Hope this helps a little.
Mark Jackson
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TaskLizard
#I do not think it was the cylinder stop or the revolver's hand that was
causing the jam. Any ideas?>>
(the thing you push in to punch out the spent cases) may have started to
unscrew. They screw in with a left hand thread. Try screwing the thing in
(COUNTER clockwise). It shouldn't be loose at all. That wouldn't surprise me. I
had a Taurus Model 431 .44 Special that did that. ALL of the Tauruses I've had
needed a little Locktite. (Though I wouldn't Locktite the ejector rod) Or: 2)
One of the bullets has unseated slightly forward and is hanging up.
Check that ejector rod!
Gary
Vermont
TaskLizard
Dave Hickey
I believe that your friends Taurus carries a lifetime warranty.
Ship it back to the importer and let them fix it. D.H.
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tr...@therange.com
typical Taurus quality control. i have seen it happen multiple times.
send it back to taurus with their lifetime guarantee rather than paying
a gunsmith.
jth...@rssm.com wrote:
#
# Hey all,
#
# A friend of mine owns a Taurus 606 in .357 Magnum. One day while shooting
# at the local public range, we noticed that his revolver would sometimes "hang
# up" during double action fire--the cylinder would refuse to turn. Single
# action fire corrected this problem, at least for the time being.
#> Thanks in advance,
#
# Justin
#
# (Please remove NOSPAM in the "reply to" field. Thx.)
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In <6mu40h$d...@xring.cs.umd.edu> m808...@aol.com (M808state) writes:
#
#Had Similar trouble with my Colt Anaconda (44 Mag) not long ago. It
would
#release if you simply spun the cylinder backwards a little. Took it
to a
#gunsmith and he replaced a spring for a couple of buck ($40) and it is
good as
#new. He told me many revolvers show this problem (bad or worn spring)
from the
#factory.
#Hope this helps a little.
#
#Mark Jackson
#M808...@aol.com
#
In this case, it sounds more like the eject rod was unscrewing itself
from the cylinder. $40 is a lot for tightening it back up. Maybe he put
some loctite on it, and that is what cost so much <G>.
The Polymath
jth...@rssm.com wrote:
} A friend of mine owns a Taurus 606 in .357 Magnum. One day while
shooting
}at the local public range, we noticed that his revolver would sometimes
"hang
}up" during double action fire--the cylinder would refuse to turn.
Single
}action fire corrected this problem, at least for the time being.
}
} Yesterday, he showed up at my place with said revolver, which had
}apparently jammed while he was at the range. The cylinder would not
rotate,
}and we were unable to release the cylinder by using the cylinder latch.
...
Is your friend in the habit of flipping the cylinder in and out of the
frame? That will twist the crane and, eventually, lock up the cylinder.
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