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Rick

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Mar 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/18/97
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Hello
Quick and to the point.
Since I reload I like to care for my brass. My newly acquired MAK-90
dents the cases. I think it is the ejected case hitting the reciever
cover. Anyone confirm or deny? Any suggested solutions? Otherwise it
is real sweet to shoot except for the loooooong trigger pull.

Thank you in advance for sharing your knowledge and experience.

Rick


Ralph K.

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Mar 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/18/97
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I have the same problem with my NHM91. I reload Lapua brass and catch
it in a custom fit brass catcher. I have to put mild loads through it
so it lessens the denting. I dislike very much what it does to the
new brass I use. I notice the brass swipe marks on the top cover...
there should be some type of rubber edge guard one could adhere to
that edge. Other than that I don't know what else to do but to put up
with ugly dented casings.

Anyone out there with non-Norinco AK clones...does this occur with
your rifle?

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Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci

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Mar 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/18/97
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In article <5gmcmp$l...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, Rick <rmat...@nwinfo.net> wrote:
#Hello
# Quick and to the point.
#Since I reload I like to care for my brass. My newly acquired MAK-90
#dents the cases. I think it is the ejected case hitting the reciever
#cover. Anyone confirm or deny? Any suggested solutions? Otherwise it
#is real sweet to shoot except for the loooooong trigger pull.
#
Yes, the cases are striking the reciever cover. Building or buying a
buffer would take care of it (I keep thinking I've seen something about a
buffer, but can't be sure) or if you want to go through the chore of
reloading steel case which doesn't ding - . (it can be done, but is
almost not worth the effort normally, but that is what I do with mine. I
save my brass cases for my SKSs) Alternatly, if you are just doing
blasting ammo, you might try a reduced load. I haven't tried it for my
MAK, but it has made finding my SKS brass a lot easiler.


Ruger Lover

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Mar 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/18/97
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Rick wrote:
#
# Hello

# Quick and to the point.
# Since I reload I like to care for my brass. My newly acquired MAK-90
# dents the cases. I think it is the ejected case hitting the reciever
# cover. Anyone confirm or deny? Any suggested solutions? Otherwise it
# is real sweet to shoot except for the loooooong trigger pull.
#
# Thank you in advance for sharing your knowledge and experience.
#
# Rick


My Walther PPK/S .380 does exactly the same thing. A small amount of
wear is starting to show up on the side of the slide where the cartridge
hits. The local gun shop told me that this is common with some guns,
especially .380's. Apparently the cartridge has quite a bit of spin to
it as it is ejected. My .380 throws the spent case twice as far as my
Ruger 9mm.

Ruger Lover


SSLSMSKS

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Mar 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/18/97
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Rick,

I also have a MAK-90 that dents the cases. They do indeed hit the receiver
cover as they are ejected. This was a mystery to me for the my first
couple
hundred rounds. I thought about grinding back the cover a bit to add some
clearence but decided against it, my resizing die does a pretty god job of
removing the dents from the cases anyway. For a $199 rifle I can live with
it.

Steve


Jay Haas

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Mar 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/18/97
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Hi Rick

I have had the same problem with mine. Your analysis is right, and about
all you can do is to install an E. German receiver cover with the rolled
edge. This won't cure the problem, but it reduces the damage a lot! If
you find a cure let us know.

Hope this helps

Jay

Bill Oertell

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Mar 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/19/97
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Rick wrote:
#
# Hello
# Quick and to the point.
# Since I reload I like to care for my brass. My newly acquired MAK-90
# dents the cases. I think it is the ejected case hitting the reciever
# cover. Anyone confirm or deny? Any suggested solutions? Otherwise it
# is real sweet to shoot except for the loooooong trigger pull.
#
# Thank you in advance for sharing your knowledge and experience.
#
# Rick

Hmm...I have the same problem with my BAR II. The mouths of most of
my cases are dented. Since I could duplicate the effect simply by
droping an empty case on the ground, I thought this was the cause, even
though about 90% of my cases are so damaged.
When I first noticed this at the range, I thought it was the case
hitting some part of the ejection port. Maybe my first guess was the
correct one.
The next question is, just how greatly will the affect case life?
Doesn't seem to me that you could get many reloads out of dented cases.

Bill


Stacey Cherwonak

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Mar 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/19/97
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Rick (rmat...@nwinfo.net) wrote:
: Hello
: Quick and to the point.
: Since I reload I like to care for my brass. My newly acquired MAK-90
: dents the cases. I think it is the ejected case hitting the reciever
: cover. Anyone confirm or deny? Any suggested solutions? Otherwise it
: is real sweet to shoot except for the loooooong trigger pull.

If this is really bugging you, you could probably get a piece of
small-diameter rubber or plastic tubing, slit one side, and cement it onto
the top edge of the cover where the brass is striking it. As long as it's
small enough not to interfere with the bolt/bolt handle travel, this
should work.
Stacey C.


Sc0

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Mar 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/19/97
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It happens all the time, it either hits the receiver cover or the receiver
itself.
My solution is to just buy the Bulk-surplus ammo when it is cheap
--
"The World Doesn't Make Sense Anymore"
Sc0

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D. Penn

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Mar 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/20/97
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s...@vcn.bc.ca (Stacey Cherwonak) wrote:
#Rick (rmat...@nwinfo.net) wrote:
<snip> My newly acquired MAK-90
#: dents the cases. I think it is the ejected case hitting the reciever
#: cover. >
# <snip>, you could probably get a piece of small-diameter rubber or plastic tubing, slit one side, and cement it onto the top edge =
of the cover where the brass is striking it. <snip>
#Stacey C.

Good idea! I also found that I could peen the edge of the receiver cover
with a ball peen hammer and it stopped trashing the brass. I understand
that a port buffer is available for the Valmet that is made for the very
purpose..I'll bet that would be the classiest way to go.

BTW, what powder are you using for 7.62x39? Have you tried the new ( and
very affordable at $50 for 8 lbs.!) Accurate Arms 2200? Good luck!

Justin T. Huang

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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: Rick wrote:
: #
: # Since I reload I like to care for my brass. My newly acquired MAK-90

: # dents the cases. I think it is the ejected case hitting the reciever
: # cover. Anyone confirm or deny? Any suggested solutions? Otherwise it
: # is real sweet to shoot except for the loooooong trigger pull.

My Maadi rifle does the same thing. Since I use almost
exclusively military ammunition, I have never really examined my
empty casings--but I noticed after several hundred rounds that
one small area of my receiver cover just behind the ejection port
was being repeatedly "dinged" by the ejecting cases, and the
black paint was being chipped off.

My theory is that the necks of the fired cases are hitting
the receiver cover after each cartridge is fired. I don't know
what is causing this phenomenon...perhaps my ejector needs
adjustment?


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UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA | http://dolphin.upenn.edu/~jthuang
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Brian E. Smith

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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Rick wrote:
#
# Hello
# Quick and to the point.

# Since I reload I like to care for my brass. My newly acquired MAK-90
# dents the cases. I think it is the ejected case hitting the reciever
# cover. Anyone confirm or deny? Any suggested solutions? Otherwise it
# is real sweet to shoot except for the loooooong trigger pull.
#
# Thank you in advance for sharing your knowledge and experience.
#
# Rick

Don't sweat the dings. This is common of the AK type rifles. I have
heard these dents refered to as "love taps". I have reloaded plenty of
these with no problems. You really should consider buying the bulk
stuff. It's really cheap if you shop around.(as low as $125 per 1000).
A lot less hassle unless you really like to reload or you are looking
for more accuracy.
--
Brian E. Smith
Dublin, CA

"The care of every man's soul belongs to himself. But what if he neglect
the care of it? Well what if he neglect the care of his health or his
estate, which would more nearly relate to the state. Will the magistrate
make a law that he not be poor or sick? Laws provide against injury from
others; but not from ourselves. God himself will not save men against
their wills." -- Thomas Jefferson; October 1776


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