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Help Me!! Savage MK II vs Marlin 60 vs Ruger 10/22

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Taimur Khan

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Jan 26, 2003, 6:50:30 AM1/26/03
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Hello,
I am looking for the most accurate 22 rifle out there for under $200.
I was shopping around for a couple of days and these are the guns that I
have found that fit my bill.
Marlin 60
Savage Mark II
Ruger 10/22

I dont have a lot of money to spend (Hence the $200 limit) since im a poor
college kid :(
I want to put a good scope on the 22 I buy for small varmint, shooting cans,
etc.. at 100 yds or less.

Please advise as to the most accurate and best rifle, if you have any other
suggestions please dont refrain from posting.

Thanks,

Taimur Khan

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Nick Hull

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Jan 27, 2003, 6:22:57 AM1/27/03
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In article <b10i26$ndb$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>, "Taimur Khan"
<siriu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

# Hello,
# I am looking for the most accurate 22 rifle out there for under $200.
# I was shopping around for a couple of days and these are the guns that I
# have found that fit my bill.
# Marlin 60
# Savage Mark II
# Ruger 10/22
#
# I dont have a lot of money to spend (Hence the $200 limit) since im a poor
# college kid :(
# I want to put a good scope on the 22 I buy for small varmint, shooting cans,
# etc.. at 100 yds or less.
#
# Please advise as to the most accurate and best rifle, if you have any other
# suggestions please dont refrain from posting.

You can probably get more accuracy at a cheaper price by looking at bolt
actions. They usually have a better trigger too.

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Blake A. Loyd

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Jan 27, 2003, 6:25:11 AM1/27/03
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"Taimur Khan" <siriu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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# Hello,
# I am looking for the most accurate 22 rifle out there for under
$200.
# I was shopping around for a couple of days and these are the guns
that I

# have found that fit my bill.
# Marlin 60
# Savage Mark II
# Ruger 10/22
#
# I dont have a lot of money to spend (Hence the $200 limit) since im
a poor
# college kid :(
# I want to put a good scope on the 22 I buy for small varmint,
shooting cans,
# etc.. at 100 yds or less.
#
# Please advise as to the most accurate and best rifle, if you have
any other
# suggestions please dont refrain from posting.
#
# Thanks,
#
# Taimur Khan
#
I have Savage Mark II. I wouldn't recommend it. The barrel is
supposed to be free floating, but the first four or five inches in
front of the receiver are not. The mounting bolt attaches almost if
not directly beneath the chamber, and I feel this causes a problem
with accuracy as the barrel warms up during firing.
The first shot out of mine will be three quarters of an inch or
more high left compared to the second shot( unless I sight in on the
first shot, then all the others are off). Then the shots move in to a
dime sized area after about the third shot. Some people may not thing
this is that bad, but it is from a shooting bench and vice at 25 yds
with a thirty-six power target scope.
I've tried lots of different types and brands of .22
bullets:subsonic, hyper, target, and standard velocities : Eley,
Winchester, CCI, Federal, and Remington. the Federal Lightnings give
me the best results, but still, the first shot is always off from
three quarters to an inch, depending on how cold the weather is.
I bought the gun for target shooting competition, but the gun is a
pain. I have to shoot it beforehand to see where the pattern is
hitting and compensate for each shot, but if the temperature changes
very much during the competition so does the pattern.
Of course, you may get one and it shoot perfectly for you. I just
wouldn't count on it.

Loyd

Joseph Lovell

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Jan 27, 2003, 6:33:00 AM1/27/03
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Taimur Khan wrote:
#
# Hello,
# I am looking for the most accurate 22 rifle out there for under $200.
# I was shopping around for a couple of days and these are the guns that I


# have found that fit my bill.
# Marlin 60
# Savage Mark II
# Ruger 10/22

I haven't tried the Savage, but of the other 2, I'd go (have gone) with
the Marlin. I think it is a better shooter, better looking, feels
better in the hands. If you want to shoot I say go with the Marlin, if
you want to spend time an money tinkering with it, go with the Ruger.
Not that the Ruger is a bad rifle, great little plinker at a reasonable
price and durable as hell. I just feel that the Marlin is just as
durable and shoots a lot better.
That's my two cents worth.

Joseph

Usmc bill

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Jan 27, 2003, 6:33:58 AM1/27/03
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I've had a Marlin Model 60 for 21 years and bought a Ruger 10/22 for my son
about 8 years ago. Ruger makes fine guns no doubt, but for the price, you can't
beat the Model 60.

Good luck.

Bill

HarHill

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Jan 27, 2003, 6:35:07 AM1/27/03
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Do the marlin 60 w/o stainless for $110 or less and invest in a good scope. It
is tube feed so no $12 additonal magazines are necessary.

Harold

Dennis Moore

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Jan 27, 2003, 6:36:25 AM1/27/03
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The Savage MKII LV hands down. Should be available for right
at $200. Will have a tough trigger, but will still shoot very
accurately.

Marlin 60 is pretty accurate for a semi-auto. Noticeably more
accurate than a stock 10/22 on average. But the Savage will
easily better it for accuracy.

Ruger 10/22 will come in last among these 3 for accuracy in stock
form.

Now Marlin makes an 880SQ heavy barrel bolt action that is quite
competitive with the Savage. But has a less nice stock and a
generally less well made feel to it. But it will shoot accurately.

Good luck,
Dennis


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Hemlock Soames

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Jan 27, 2003, 6:42:53 AM1/27/03
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:50:30 +0000 (UTC), "Taimur Khan"
<siriu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

#Hello,
#I am looking for the most accurate 22 rifle out there for under $200.
#I was shopping around for a couple of days and these are the guns that I
#have found that fit my bill.
#Marlin 60

Can be quite accurate, but also can be a jam-o-matic depending on
your luck.

#Savage Mark II

Probably the best among these three and among the best of low priced
..22's in general. Excellent reputation. I have one of the synthetic
stocked models and it is a very good shooter.

#Ruger 10/22

Spotty record for accuracy. Handsome rifles, and the internal
magazine is very nice. Large selection of aftermarket parts to cure
accuracy problems and spif 'em up.

Soames

"Never mind world peace, visualize using your turn signal"

Anthony

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Jan 27, 2003, 6:43:22 AM1/27/03
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Consider a New England arms Handi rifle. It's a single shot but you can get
extra barrels for it. If you buy a Handi rifle in .223 for about $60 more
you can get a .22LR barrel for it. This will be about $230 total but the
useful value will much more than a .22LR alone.

Tony

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Tikka223

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Jan 27, 2003, 6:49:34 AM1/27/03
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Marlin is the only one of the 3 that I have owned. I have had no problems with
it and I would buy it again.

Taimur Khan

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Jan 28, 2003, 7:57:20 AM1/28/03
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ok,
so now im down to the Savage Mk II and the Marlin 60.
Honestly, I prefer a bolt action rifle so im leaning towards the Savage Mk II..
Suggestions?


Taimur

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fred

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Jan 28, 2003, 7:57:53 AM1/28/03
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Marlin 60 at Wal-Mart $99.99,,, get a scope and still have $$$ for a
case,cleaning stuff & ammo
Fred

Joseph Lovell

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Jan 28, 2003, 7:14:11 PM1/28/03
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Taimur Khan wrote:
#
# ok,
# so now im down to the Savage Mk II and the Marlin 60.
# Honestly, I prefer a bolt action rifle so im leaning towards the Savage Mk II..
# Suggestions?
#
# Taimur
#
Honestly, look around for a Mossberg Mod. 46B. Great rifle, and if you
can find one it should only be about $100. I got one, with the #4 peep
sight, about 2 years ago, with the right ammo it will hold on a quarter
at 50 yds (from a rest). It's about 60 years old now (give or take a
few) and I expect that it will pass to my as yet to be thought of
grandkids.
Don't be afraid to buy something used, usually there is nothing wrong
it, the owner either needs a little ready cash, needs to reduce his
inventory, or the owner died and the heirs don't want it.

Joseph

tango

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Jan 30, 2003, 8:53:49 AM1/30/03
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"Taimur Khan" <siriu...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Either the Marlin or the Ruger. The Marlin Model 60 is probably the
most gun for the money of the 22's. The Savages have very rough
triggers. I own both the Ruger 10-22 and the Marlin Model 60 and
have a Savage bolt action in 22magnum.

TDW

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Jan 30, 2003, 8:54:13 AM1/30/03
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I have both the Savage Mk II and Marlin 60. Both are great guns, I got the
Savage because it is a left handed bolt action. I think you will be very
happy with either.

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Mk II..
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Randy Sweeney

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Jan 31, 2003, 4:06:10 PM1/31/03
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"Taimur Khan" <siriu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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# Hello,
# I am looking for the most accurate 22 rifle out there for under $200.
# I was shopping around for a couple of days and these are the guns that I
# have found that fit my bill.
# Marlin 60
# Savage Mark II
# Ruger 10/22
#
# I dont have a lot of money to spend (Hence the $200 limit) since im a poor
# college kid :(
# I want to put a good scope on the 22 I buy for small varmint, shooting
cans,
# etc.. at 100 yds or less.
#
# Please advise as to the most accurate and best rifle, if you have any
other
# suggestions please dont refrain from posting.


Just went through this myself last month.

Marlin 60 or the Ruger 10/22

both are better quality than the Savage, which just looks and feels cheap
and rough.

The wood on the Ruger is much nicer than the Marlin, but most agree the
Marlin has better accuracy.

But large magazines (and many other accessories) are available for the
Ruger, and it' nice to shoot for a while and NOT have to reload the tube as
in the Marlin.

Best prices I have seen @ WalMart - Marlin 60 $99 ($159 stainless), Ruger
10/22 $159 ($214 stainless deluxe with nice hand checkered walnut stock)

My Dad got the Marlin in blued, my wife gave me the stainless Ruger for
Christmas, both of us are very pleased.

Additionally, Marlin makes a removable magazine fed rifle that's harder to
find.... I think it is the Model 895 or somesuch... looks like a modifed 60
design.

Joseph Lovell

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Feb 1, 2003, 5:26:16 AM2/1/03
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Randy Sweeney wrote:

#
# But large magazines (and many other accessories) are available for the
# Ruger, and it' nice to shoot for a while and NOT have to reload the tube as
# in the Marlin.
What you do is buy some 1/4 inch tubing (I prefer brass, but, heck,
plastic would work), cut it to length, cap one end, or even just pinch
it off, and you have loading tubes. Just load up a bunch before you go
to the range, pull the plunger all the way out of the tube magazine of
the Mod. 60, take one of your handy dandy loading tube and dump in the
rounds. Not as hard on the thumb as reloading the 10/22 mags.

Taimur Khan

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Feb 5, 2003, 8:50:57 PM2/5/03
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Well,
I eventually went out and bought the blued Marlin 60 from Wal-Mart
(yay) for $99 and got a 3-9x40 Tasco scope for it. Love the rifle :)

However, the rings I got with the gun are crap (bought them from
Wal-Mart also). I tightened them up as much as I could, heh, even
tried tightening them with a wrench so they wouldn't budge, but after
firing around 200 rounds I still find the scope to be inching
backwards and the rings slipping.

Suggestions?

Taimur Khan

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Ken Marsh

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Feb 6, 2003, 7:43:00 PM2/6/03
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Hi,

Taimur Khan <siriu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#Suggestions?

Yes, buy new rings, something of higher quality this time. Burris,
Leupold, and Millet all make good rings.

If the rings are slipping on the mount, go to a Weaver-type mount.

Ken.

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