AMT 45 Backup
mr...@my-deja.com
evaluation :
"The AMT .45 Backup pistol is the best (read that as smallest) deep
concealment .45 semi-auto on the market (5 + 1 rounds). It also appears
to be one of the best kept secrets in the gun industry, as well as one
of the most verbally abused little guns on the market. No other .45,
including the Para-Ordnance 1045, the CAT .45, or the new Glock .45
Compact are as small; in fact those guns look gigantic compared to an
AMT .45 Backup.
The AMT .45 is 5.7" long, 4.1" in height, and only 1" wide in the grip
and slightly less than 1" in the slide width. As a general reference,
it's similar to the Glock 26/27 size, EXCEPT the baby Glocks are a lot
fatter and more than 1/2" longer than the AMT .45. The AMT .45 is a
quality all-stainless steel model with only 32 parts to it (similar to
the low Glock parts count), weighing in at 24 oz; the overall weight
and engineering of the super small AMT .45 tames the gun nicely. I can
say from personal experience, that the felt recoil is quite manageable.
The AMT backup is also available in 380, 9mm, .38 Super, 40 S&W, and
357Sig. A Cor-Bon rep mentioned that AMT may come out with a 400 Cor-
Bon also."
Does anyone have any experience with this handgun. It seems to me a
very capable gun for $250. Thank you.
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Jerry Morris
for kicks, at 25 yards and this gun is amazing. Even with the primitive
sights, we kept on a 6 inch plate.
It is reliable with RN-FMJ and Glasers. Only jams are with SWC, so far.
several hundred rounds have been fired through these pistol. It was
reliable from the first round. Have to say this is abnormal. I want one to
try for myself.
Jerry
William Barwell
In article <7t5se2$3lf$1...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, <mr...@my-deja.com> wrote:
#I am considering the AMT 45 Backup for a CCW. I read the following
#evaluation :
#"The AMT .45 Backup pistol is the best (read that as smallest) deep
#concealment .45 semi-auto on the market (5 + 1 rounds). It also appears
#to be one of the best kept secrets in the gun industry, as well as one
#of the most verbally abused little guns on the market. No other .45,
#including the Para-Ordnance 1045, the CAT .45, or the new Glock .45
#Compact are as small; in fact those guns look gigantic compared to an
#AMT .45 Backup.
They have a massively bad trigger. About 20 lbs.
And I have read a number of remarks, not good, om AMT
reliability and quality. Sometimes it takes some gunsmith tinkering
to make 'em work right, but then they are not exspensive guns to begin
with.
If I was looking for a small and light .45, I'd check out
the Para-Ordinance alloy mini-.45s. I have handled a few
at gunshows and they are cute. More expensive but PO
seems to have a good reputation for their guns.
I have no idea how good or how reliable these little
.45s are. But I see the Para-Ordinances at most gun shows
I attend. For what its worth, I see relatively few AMTs
at gun shows.
Their .380s used to be common at shows, but seem to
not be popular anymore.
Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope of Houston
Slack!
Sqzeplay9
the MASSIVE trigger on the DA, they are stone reliable. Why, oh why, didn't
they design it to use the same magazine?
SLOW_...@webtv.net
got it, it was fairly jam-happy but after a breakin period they dried
up. I polished the chamber and feedramp for good measure and now it is
100% reliable with all types of bullets. The trigger is quite long and
heavy, but very smooth. I would suggest having a good trigger job done
on it as i have on mine. It adds about $50 to the cost but brings the
pull down to 12-15 pounds (about the same as a DA revolver). Many
people complain about the sights but, I actualy like the channel type
sights. They are natural and quick to use. The one drawback is that
this gun can be quite painfull to shoot for extended sesions (thats the
price to pay for a .45 that is just a bit bigger than a Baretta
Tomcat!!!). If you are an experianced shooter should have no problems.
I shoot mine recreationaly on a regular basis. After about 150-200
rounds of 230gr +p rounds i usualy have a bad case of slide-bite and a
knot where the butt of the pistol rests in my palm...but few people will
shoot this gun to that extent. most people could handle 50 rounds or so
at a time for without to much discomfort. Be warned however, the
percusive "shockwave" from high energy rounds can be quite intemidating
and a little disconserting.
Jerry Rogan
pistol (fully loaded) was uncomfortable and the trigger pull was quite
uncomfortable.
The large amount of trigger pull has its' pros and cons. Requires a lot of
practice to maintain accuracy, but makes it very save to carry without worry
of accidental discharge (remember, this is a DOA pistol).
When this pistol first hit the market it was one of the first compact 45s
available. Today, I believe, you have better choices, but you are correct,
for the price it's not bad. But if you can't get use to the trigger pull
and maintain accuracy, do you want to trust your life to it?
It's also somewhat difficult to break down and clean.
<mr...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7t5se2$3lf$1...@xring.cs.umd.edu...
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Ric Woz
constantly, was impossible to disassemble, and was not accurate. What else
do you want? The basic machining was crude compared with Ruger, Kimber or
Smith&Wesson to name a few
companies whose products I'm familiar with. .
Based on my experience I would not go for the Backup. The .380 was the
smallest .380 made. I wish I had bought the "best" .380 instead (best
concealable .380 is a Kahr 9mm!).
How small is it? Glock makes some very small and light guns that work.
Most any
"compact" 45 like the HK USP or SIG 245 are concealable. 1911's come in
sizes
down to very small from Springfield, Kimber, ParaOrdenacne and Colt all of
whom
have better reputations for quality than AMT. (Colt has been spotty in the
90s).
I'd choose from this list and pass on the AMT.
"Ask the man who owns one." - whose motto was that, anyway?
John A. Stovall
Look at the Kimber compact. It will meet with an inch the AMT and is
a far the better gun.
Not my provider's views.
John Alex Stovall
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shot would go off.
He took it back and got credit on another gun.
Andrewdy
#Does anyone have any experience with this handgun. It seems to me a
#very capable gun for $250. Thank you.
#
How 'bout that nice trigger?
Andrew "FF"
Lou Boyd
#
# #Does anyone have any experience with this handgun. It seems to me a
# #very capable gun for $250. Thank you.
# #
#
It's no target pistol. It is only what it was designed for. A compact
and reasonably powerful personal protection concealed weapon. For that,
in my opinion, it does a good job. I shoot one occasionally just to
keep familiarity and to make certain it's working properly. It's been
reliable for me with no feed or extraction problems. It does have a
long and heavy trigger pull but that's it's only safety. On mine at
least, keeping in mind it's purpose, I don't mind the trigger pull. At
least it's smooth. It can still be shot with reasonable accuracy with a
little practice.
The AMT backup is truly tiny for a .45. A Colt officers model 1911
(alloy frame) is a quarter inch thicker, an inch longer and an inch
taller. They weigh about the same. The Backup is almost identical in
overall size to a Colt Mustang .380 though the Mustang is noticably
lighter. Without question Colt is easier to to shoot accurately but it
doesn't conceal nearly as easily.
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Lou Boyd
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