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Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley

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Dec 3, 2009, 5:49:27 AM12/3/09
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I just saw the first episode of Steven Seagal's new show on A&E, which
included showing him shooting a 1911 on a police range. Definitely
worth watching!


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Dec 3, 2009, 6:07:45 PM12/3/09
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Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley wrote:
# I just saw the first episode of Steven Seagal's new show on A&E, which
# included showing him shooting a 1911 on a police range. Definitely
# worth watching!
#
#

You do know he actually is a Reserve Deputy Sheriff for Jefferson
Parish, La.

Don Lampson

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Dec 3, 2009, 6:07:46 PM12/3/09
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What does he do to make the show "worth watching", besides shooting
live ammo, instead of blanks? He certainly isn't going to have film
of him missing on the show?
I can't understand what the appeal of Steven Seagal the 60 year old
movie star as a rookie LEO, on a 3nd rate "reality show" might be?
Does he ever say, "You're in a heap of trouble boy!", while writing
the "perp" out a speeding ticket? HawHawHaw!
Don

http://www.donlampson.com

Tom S.

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Dec 3, 2009, 8:04:26 PM12/3/09
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Don Lampson wrote:
# What does he do to make the show "worth watching", besides shooting
# live ammo, instead of blanks? He certainly isn't going to have film
# of him missing on the show?
# I can't understand what the appeal of Steven Seagal the 60 year old
# movie star as a rookie LEO, on a 3nd rate "reality show" might be?
# Does he ever say, "You're in a heap of trouble boy!", while writing
# the "perp" out a speeding ticket? HawHawHaw!

He's not a rookie, he's been a reserve office for over 20 years.

Jim

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Dec 3, 2009, 11:06:04 PM12/3/09
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"Tom S." <tms...@cox.com> wrote in message
news:hf9n6q$gif$1...@news.albasani.net...
# Don Lampson wrote:

# # I can't understand what the appeal of Steven Seagal the 60 year old
# # movie star as a rookie LEO, on a 3nd rate "reality show" might be?
# # Does he ever say, "You're in a heap of trouble boy!", while writing
# # the "perp" out a speeding ticket? HawHawHaw!
#
# He's not a rookie, he's been a reserve office for over 20 years.


He also carries the title of "Chief", as I heard the story told.

Don Lampson

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:07:44 PM12/4/09
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Excuuuuse me! How much time has "Chief" Seagal actually put in "on
the job" while being a reserve deputy during the last 20 years in
Louisiana, compared to his movie, and music career?
There's been several celebrities who have been "reserve" cops. It's
how they used to get a CWP, before the majority of states became
"shall issue".
I like Steven when he's beating people up by the dozens, and pitching
them through windows! I doubt if he does that much working as a deputy
sheriff, but we can always hope he'll body slam a few smart mouthed
ruffians from time to time?
It will be interesting to see how his "reality show" does? His movies
go straight to video these days, and he has trouble getting music gigs,
which is I suspect he's now on "reality TV"?
Don

http://www.donlampson.com

Bluehawk99

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:07:47 PM12/4/09
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Don Lampson wrote:
" I can't understand what the appeal of Steven Seagal the 60 year old
movie star..."

There are some who don't care for the actor and his movies but I give
him lots of credit because unlike David Carradine from the "Kung Fu"
TV series...Steven's techniques in his early works were mostly real as
he is a true Master of Aikido, 7th dan (degree), and gave us what the
real martial art movements are like and not Hollywoods silliness of
high wire flying and all the rest!
I feel he carried his style to the big screen quite well.

As far as appeal for his new show, Wikipedia reported this:

Steven Seagal: Lawman premier drew 3.6 million viewers ranking as best
season opener for any original A&E series ever.

Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:07:53 PM12/4/09
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On Dec 3, 4:07�pm, DonLamp...@webtv.net (Don Lampson) wrote:
# � What does he do to make the show "worth watching", �besides shooting
# live ammo, �instead of blanks? � He certainly isn't going to have film
# of him missing on the show?

He gave some useful pointers on shooting techniques. They were
shooting at what looked like about 25 feet. The other officer who was
being instructed by Seagal was shooting groups of about 12 inches or
more. Seagal's group was about the size of a quarter, or a bit less.

LC

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:07:58 PM12/4/09
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On Dec 3, 2:49�am, Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley <cowartmi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> ...

Gee, a remake of "COPS" with Mr. Seagal as lead, eh.

Jim

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Dec 4, 2009, 11:31:44 PM12/4/09
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"Don Lampson" <DonLa...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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# Excuuuuse me! How much time has "Chief" Seagal actually put in "on
# the job" while being a reserve deputy during the last 20 years in
# Louisiana, compared to his movie, and music career?

Why not ask him? I don't really care for his acting abilities, although his
movies are fun to watch.

The fact that he pulled off a legitimate 20 year LEO career without drawing
publicity to himself is indicative of class and a testament to his
character.

Then there's those who have to pee in the Cheerios.

Tom S.

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Dec 4, 2009, 11:31:46 PM12/4/09
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Don Lampson wrote:
# Excuuuuse me! How much time has "Chief" Seagal actually put in "on
# the job" while being a reserve deputy during the last 20 years in
# Louisiana, compared to his movie, and music career?
He is Chief of Training for Unarmed Defense.

Ralph Mowery

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Dec 4, 2009, 11:31:49 PM12/4/09
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"Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley" <cowar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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# He gave some useful pointers on shooting techniques. They were
# shooting at what looked like about 25 feet. The other officer who was
# being instructed by Seagal was shooting groups of about 12 inches or
# more. Seagal's group was about the size of a quarter, or a bit less.
#

Shooting slow at the standard police range of 7 yards (21 feet) everyone
that depends on a gun for protection should be able to just about put the
bullets in a half dollar circle. Hard to believe but I have seen some
auxilary police miss gallon milk jugs at that range. They should have their
guns taken away.

haro...@maonet.org

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Dec 5, 2009, 6:40:10 AM12/5/09
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I think it's an absolute disgrace for any police department to allow
such a clown to actually patrol. As for his having had a deputy
sheriff's badge for a couple of decades, that's means nothing. In
many sheriff departments, local big shots and contributors have these
"deputy" badges. They're passed around in many jurisdictions like
tootsie pops.

Tom S.

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Dec 5, 2009, 5:38:20 PM12/5/09
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Ralph Mowery wrote:
# "Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley" <cowar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
# news:hfciq9$v4r$1...@news.albasani.net...
# # He gave some useful pointers on shooting techniques. They were
# # shooting at what looked like about 25 feet. The other officer who was
# # being instructed by Seagal was shooting groups of about 12 inches or
# # more. Seagal's group was about the size of a quarter, or a bit less.
# #
#

# Shooting slow at the standard police range of 7 yards (21 feet) everyone
# that depends on a gun for protection should be able to just about put the
# bullets in a half dollar circle. Hard to believe but I have seen some
# auxilary police miss gallon milk jugs at that range. They should have their
# guns taken away.

Regular cops aren't much better. In fact, most are worse.

TimR

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Dec 5, 2009, 5:38:18 PM12/5/09
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On Dec 5, 6:40�am, harol...@maonet.org wrote:
# I think it's an absolute disgrace for any police department to allow
# such a clown to actually patrol. �

I could be wrong, I don't think those reserve deputies actually
patrol. They didn't where I grew up.

They were used as extra security at the county fair and similar
events, traffic control for parades, standing in the back at church
bingo night, etc.

Somehow I can't picture him doing very much of that.

Tom S.

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Dec 5, 2009, 5:38:21 PM12/5/09
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Jim wrote:
# "Don Lampson" <DonLa...@webtv.net> wrote in message
# news:hfciq0$v4k$1...@news.albasani.net...
# # Excuuuuse me! How much time has "Chief" Seagal actually put in "on
# # the job" while being a reserve deputy during the last 20 years in
# # Louisiana, compared to his movie, and music career?
#
# Why not ask him? I don't really care for his acting abilities, although his
# movies are fun to watch.
#
Hollyweird types probably don't spend but six months working. Seagal's
works probably don't take but a few weeks to shoot.

Yes, fun. The only one I watched was "Exit Wounds", but it was as much
comedy as action, the comedy being deliberate.
# The fact that he pulled off a legitimate 20 year LEO career without drawing
# publicity to himself is indicative of class and a testament to his
# character.
#
Indeed!
# Then there's those who have to pee in the Cheerios.
Sadly, yes. Sadly, they're supposed to be adults.

Mike Corey

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Dec 5, 2009, 8:39:00 PM12/5/09
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#You do know he actually is a Reserve Deputy
# Sheriff for Jefferson Parish, La.

I'm not sure what it's like in Jefferson Parish LA, but around my area a
"Reserve Deputy" is called a want-a-be. Reserve Deputy's are not allowed
to carry, and all they do is direct traffic during parades.

Gunner Asch

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Dec 5, 2009, 8:39:05 PM12/5/09
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:38:18 +0000 (UTC), TimR <timot...@aol.com>
wrote:

> ...

Where I live..Reserves work patrol just like full time guys do.

Level 1 reserves can work by themselves..Level 2 must be with a Level 1
deputy.
Or visa versa...I cant remember which was the highest level.

In most jurisdictions..Reserves do exactly that..work the street.
But..when needed..they do indeed work security etc etc as they either
work for free, or at a reduced rate of pay.

Gunner

Tom S.

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Dec 5, 2009, 8:39:06 PM12/5/09
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TimR wrote:
# On Dec 5, 6:40 am, harol...@maonet.org wrote:
# # I think it's an absolute disgrace for any police department to allow
# # such a clown to actually patrol.
#
# I could be wrong, I don't think those reserve deputies actually
# patrol. They didn't where I grew up.
#

They do around here in Maricopa County.
# They were used as extra security at the county fair and similar
# events, traffic control for parades, standing in the back at church
# bingo night, etc.
#
Around here they use contract security (rent-a-cop) for that.
# Somehow I can't picture him doing very much of that.
Every jurisdiction is different.

In some, they are part time, some are unpaid volunteers, and most handle
minor issues like property damage only traffic accidents.

In the infamous Joe Arapio's Maricopa County, the "Sheriff's Posse",
they handle peak time situations like patrols during Christmas shopping
at malls. They are armed and have full arrest authority.

Don Lampson

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Dec 6, 2009, 8:09:25 AM12/6/09
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I'd imagine "Chief" Seagal is a pretty good shot? However, reality
TV is certainly not reality, nor a valid way to judge anyone's shooting
ability!
I'm sorry to piddle in anyone's cheerios by even suggesting that
Steven Seagal is just acting on a reality TV show to earn money, okay?
HawHawHaw!
Don

http://www.donlampson.com

haro...@maonet.org

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Dec 6, 2009, 9:53:19 PM12/6/09
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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 13:09:25 +0000 (UTC), DonLa...@webtv.net (Don
Lampson) wrote:

snipped
# I'm sorry to piddle in anyone's cheerios by even suggesting that
#Steven Seagal is just acting on a reality TV show to earn money,
# Don
#
Oh, my Gawd! NEVER would I suggest such a thing about such a heroic
star of the silver screen. NEVER!

clarkm...@gmail.com

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Dec 14, 2009, 5:37:19 PM12/14/09
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I recall a gun magazine article 5, 10, or 20 years ago [I can't
recall] that showed Seagal with his fancy 1911s shooting zillions of
45 acp rounds per week at the range.

I don't know how I could find that with Google.
But here are rec.guns archives from15 years ago, there is some
information:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.guns/browse_thread/thread/2a5f856da0f04efd/99e090844213d932?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22steven+seagal%22+++group:rec.guns#99e090844213d932

10 years ago:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.guns/browse_thread/thread/9dd4b4949267341e/cdbffd7e227fb09c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22steven+seagal%22+++group:rec.guns#cdbffd7e227fb09c

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