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Remington 700 VSS vs PSS

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Brian Wesley Simmons

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Apr 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/15/97
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Anyone have experience with both of these rifles? I want a bolt-action .308
tactical rifle. The Varmint Synthetic Stainless seems to be a bit cheaper
than the PSS, but I don't know what the exact differences between them are.I
know the PSS is now available with a detachable box magazine. I believe it
has a different stock from the Varmint.

Anything else?
Is one inherently more accurate than the other?
If so, why?
Is the price difference based solely on the stock?

Thanks for any info comparing these two rifles.

bws


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Ken

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Apr 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/17/97
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On 15 Apr 1997 22:29:01 -0400, "Brian Wesley Simmons"
<bsim...@livingston.com> wrote:

#Anyone have experience with both of these rifles? I want a bolt-action .308
#tactical rifle. The Varmint Synthetic Stainless seems to be a bit cheaper
#than the PSS, but I don't know what the exact differences between them are.I
#know the PSS is now available with a detachable box magazine. I believe it
#has a different stock from the Varmint.
#
#Anything else?
#Is one inherently more accurate than the other?
#If so, why?
#Is the price difference based solely on the stock?
#
#Thanks for any info comparing these two rifles.
#
#bws
#

I have a PSS that I almost sleep with, I believe it is the quality of
barrel that is sold, the stock is also different. I have not fired
the VSS however, I work with many actual snipers and they say PSS all
the way, but I don't know exactly why. My PSS is accruate to 1/2
minuet at 100 yrds with 5 shots. The PSS is the same as a M40a sniper
rifle.


hghl...@pipeline.com

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Apr 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/18/97
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res...@cia-g.com (Ken) wrote:

#(snip)

#I have a PSS that I almost sleep with, I believe it is the quality of
#barrel that is sold, the stock is also different. I have not fired
#the VSS however, I work with many actual snipers and they say PSS all
#the way, but I don't know exactly why. My PSS is accruate to 1/2
#minuet at 100 yrds with 5 shots. The PSS is the same as a M40a sniper
#rifle.


Forgive me for being a bit touchy about this but...
THE PSS IS NOT THE SAME AS AN M40A1!!!!!

PSS rifles (btw, Remington uses 700P or 700TWS as a designation) are
parkerized 700 varmits with an HS Precision stock!
The M40A1 uses a different Barrel ( Stainless , 5R rifling)
a different stock ( McMillan, I believe.. Kelly will "correct" me if
I'm wrong :-) ) , And if I remember correctly, don't the Marine
Armorers do a whole bunch of "tuning" on these????

The way it was explained to me was, The 700P exists to
fufill a need of the police Tactical Shooter, Not a Military SNIPER!
The M40A1 was designed to be used in a Military SNIPER application!
You don't need to "drag" your PSS (except out of your cruiser/SWAT
vehicle) and you should not be taking 500+ yard shots at other
personnel/Radar/communication equipment.

Two different weapons, two different needs.

Steve

tra...@dsp.com

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Apr 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/18/97
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In article <5j6ac1$g...@xring.cs.umd.edu>,
res...@cia-g.com (Ken) wrote:
> ...
bolt-action .308
> ...
cheaper
> ...
them are.I
> ...
believe it
> ...
all
> ...
sniper
> ...
I have the VSS in .308 and the first group it shot was a 1/2 MOA at
100 yards using federal factory soft points. The group measured .525"
and it was your standard 5 shot group. I do believe the difference is
the stock and the magazine. Other than that, I believe it is the same
rifle. I was fortunate to find mine some years ago. It was a used
rifle that hadn't been fired yet as the Deputy sheriff needed to sell
it(was his own rifle) due to monetary problems. I've had it for about
5 years and I absolutely love to shoot it! =)

Vince


John Wilder

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Apr 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/18/97
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In article <5j7qbv$j...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, hghl...@pipeline.com wrote:

# res...@cia-g.com (Ken) wrote:
#
# #(snip)
#
#snip
#
#
# Forgive me for being a bit touchy about this but...
# THE PSS IS NOT THE SAME AS AN M40A1!!!!!
#
# PSS rifles (btw, Remington uses 700P or 700TWS as a designation) are
# parkerized 700 varmits with an HS Precision stock!
# The M40A1 uses a different Barrel ( Stainless , 5R rifling)
# a different stock ( McMillan, I believe.. Kelly will "correct" me if
# I'm wrong :-) ) , And if I remember correctly, don't the Marine
# Armorers do a whole bunch of "tuning" on these????
#
# The way it was explained to me was, The 700P exists to
# fufill a need of the police Tactical Shooter, Not a Military SNIPER!
# The M40A1 was designed to be used in a Military SNIPER application!
# You don't need to "drag" your PSS (except out of your cruiser/SWAT
# vehicle) and you should not be taking 500+ yard shots at other
# personnel/Radar/communication equipment.
#
# Two different weapons, two different needs.
#
# Steve

For what it is worth. I have a PSS. I took the center out of a 20 inch
wide by 20 inch tall shale wall with one shot. I then took out the
remaining right standing column with the second try (my buddy took out the
left column). The rifle was supported by a bipod with me in the prone
position. Ammo was my handloaded 168 grain Sierra Matchking that I moly
coated. Range: 1035 yards.

John Wilder<jwi...@llnl.gov> PGP key on request


Mark L. Mitchell

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Apr 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/18/97
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I have one of these and am not to impressed. I was allways a Remington fan
until this gun. It could be just a stinker but I've heard others complaining
about Remingtons quality lately.
I did just get a WInchester Heavy Varmint in .308 and was supprised at how
well it shoots (.25-.3"/5 shot). That was my first trip and I think I can
work with that. It has a 26" stainless barrel that, I beleive, is heavier
that the Remington and the stock has the wide forestock like the Remington
Tac. series.
In fact a local gun shop owner here said he was going to replace all of his
Remingtons with Winchesters. He reported several experiences with extremly
good shooting Heavy Varmint's.

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