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Sks

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Apr 24, 2001, 9:40:01 PM4/24/01
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Some MORON who I let help me put my new M1 back together after field
stripping was having trouble with the trigger assembly. He forgot to set it
right, and it wouldn't fit back in. So he took a mallet and tried to hammer
it in! It didn't work, and I took it back to the store, where it was put in
back correctly.

Everything fit back together. The question is, will it work correctly? A
tiny bit of wood on the bottom of the stock chipped off, but otherwise it
_seems_ to be in working order. I haven't fired it since, and obviously I'm
the only one I'm trusting with the M1 now. Do I have anything to be worried
about?

-Sks

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Apr 25, 2001, 8:40:54 AM4/25/01
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On 24 Apr 2001 21:40:01 -0400, "Sks" <sks...@hotmail.com> wrote:

#Some MORON who I let help me put my new M1 back together after field
#stripping was having trouble with the trigger assembly. He forgot to set it
#right, and it wouldn't fit back in. So he took a mallet and tried to hammer
#it in! It didn't work, and I took it back to the store, where it was put in
#back correctly.
#
#Everything fit back together. The question is, will it work correctly? A
#tiny bit of wood on the bottom of the stock chipped off, but otherwise it
#_seems_ to be in working order. I haven't fired it since, and obviously I'm
#the only one I'm trusting with the M1 now. Do I have anything to be worried
#about?

If everything seems to work okay, it is likely alright. Remember the
M1 was designed to be soldier proof.

Sounds like you need to wack your friend with a mallet.

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Pjtg0707

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Apr 25, 2001, 8:43:18 AM4/25/01
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If the receiver doesn't move in the stock, then it's probably OK.The
chipped stock may look bad, but it should still shoot well.

On 24 Apr 2001 21:40:01 -0400, "Sks" <sks...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.

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Apr 25, 2001, 8:56:03 AM4/25/01
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Hi, Sks,

It's not clear exactly what happened.

The only "setting" of the trigger guard is to unlatch & swing it open.
Unless that's done, the lugs on the guard cannot engage the recepticles in
the receiver provided for them.

It is normal to have resistance when the trigger group is engaged in the
stock & the trigger guard is being closed. In fact it's desireable for this
resistance to start when the end of the trigger guard beings to pass by the
tip of the trigger. Occassionally the fit will be so tight that a mallet is
usd to completely close and latch the guard.

As I'm not really clear what your "friend" was doing, I'm not sure what may
have been at risk. However, the one component that may be damaged by trying
to force the trigger group into place with the trigger guard closed is the
trigger guard.

Field strip the rifle. Look at the trigger guard lugs (the circular
projections on either side just back of the pivot). These lugs engage
recesses in the receiver. They should be round. Normal wear will flatten
them over time as you unlock & lock the trigger guard. If they are
misshapen you'll have to replace the trigger guard.

BTW these lugs are made to be *much* softer than the receiver so that they
wear rather than the receiver wearing. I will say that I have seen a
receiver with area under the recess broken off, so you should check that
too. If it's broken, the receiver must be replaced.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

Walt Kuleck
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Sks

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Apr 26, 2001, 6:44:54 AM4/26/01
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Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D. <wjku...@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:NEBBJMFOALJPGNODFD...@alum.mit.edu...
# Hi, Sks,
#
# It's not clear exactly what happened.
#
# The only "setting" of the trigger guard is to unlatch & swing it open.
# Unless that's done, the lugs on the guard cannot engage the recepticles in
# the receiver provided for them.
#
That's exactly what happened. I will be letting Mr. Mallet be the first one
to fire the rifle...in case my field stripping was insufficient and I missed
anything...

Thanks for you help, and everyone else who contributed to the thread.

-Sks

Dr. Smith

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Apr 26, 2001, 6:47:58 AM4/26/01
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Doesn't the hammer need to be in the cocked position in order to "easily"
insert the trigger group?.

JOHN GARAND

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Apr 26, 2001, 10:02:14 AM4/26/01
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ON 24 Apr 2001 21:40:01 -0400, "Sks" <sks...@hotmail.com> WROTE:

#Some MORON who I let help me put my new M1 back together after field
#stripping was having trouble with the trigger assembly. He forgot to set it
#right, and it wouldn't fit back in. So he took a mallet and tried to hammer
#it in! It didn't work, and I took it back to the store, where it was put in
#back correctly.
#
#Everything fit back together. The question is, will it work correctly? A
#tiny bit of wood on the bottom of the stock chipped off, but otherwise it
#_seems_ to be in working order. I haven't fired it since, and obviously I'm
#the only one I'm trusting with the M1 now. Do I have anything to be worried
#about?
#
#-Sks

Have you cycled the bolt (without cartridge) and dry fired the rifle?
If it seems to function properly through that cycle, it is probably
OK. The M1 is about as "soldier proof" as any self loader could be.
I'd take it to the range, assuming the above is successful, and run a
clip through it. As any possible damage would likely be to the
trigger group, I'd carefully look at the hammer hooks for damage
first. Then hang on for the first shot - just in case the hammer does
not reset or the sear trips by itself. Not likely, but the extreme
outside possibility if the trigger group was damaged. I would hope
the people at the store looked at the trigger group for obvious damage
when they put it back together for you.

Mike Hogan

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Apr 26, 2001, 10:20:48 AM4/26/01
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About 30 years ago some Moron chambered an empty once-fired case
in my brand new never fired Remington 788 6mm. It wedged so tight
that it could not be extracted so he used a plastic mallet on the bolt handle,
which broke off. The case was eventually removed with a cleaning rod
down the barrel (should have been first choice). Two attempts by a gunsmith
to silver solder the bolt handle back were unsuccessful and finally it
went back to Remington, who fixed it for free. Please don't tell anybody
this, but that Moron was me. Keep it under your hat. Thanks.


Sks wrote:

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