M-1 Garand or Rem 742?
The Man
I am considering getting a 30-06 semi-auto.
Does anyone have experience with both?
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The Man
You can drink an ugly girl pretty, but you can't drink a fat girl skinny.
Earl Battey
In article <xx-120896...@149.59.19.202>,
asbestos!purg.atl.com!x...@uu3.psi.com says...
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#I am considering getting a 30-06 semi-auto.
# Does anyone have experience with both?
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If a hunting rifle is what your after, get the Remington. It's much
easier to mount a scope to and you won't be ruining a fine piece of
history (the Garand would have to be modified to take a scope).
If you aren't wanting to mount a scope or otherwise "sporterize" and
would like a bit of history, the M1 cannot be beat for shooting fun and
accuracy.
Earl
Soulmate
The Man writes:
# I am considering getting a 30-06 semi-auto.
# Does anyone have experience with both?
#
While I do not own a 742, my longtime friend and hunting partner does,
and I have fired his on a number of occasions. I do have a Garand and
a 760 however, so I'll throw a few comments in for what they are worth.
The 742 is a better choice for hunting I think overall if that would
be your primary consideration. But the Garand is far more rugged,
[given one in good shootable condition] and I think is more fun to
shoot. I actually like the en-block clip arrangement of the Garand,
since if you are doing a lot of shooting, reloading is fairly quick
when you get the hang of it. The 742 uses a 4 round magazine, and you
would have to have quite a few on hand [not inexpensive] to approach
the rate of fire that the Garand is capable of. The Garand clips are
inexpensive, and can be pre-loaded for a shooting session then re-used.
The Garand is easier to maintain I think... easier to field strip and
clean. The 742 is a bit more complicated to take apart and clean. The
Garand can be finicky about the type of ammunition loading, although
I can't give you specifics. I have fired military surplus ball, commercial
[Winchester] and some reloads in my Garand and have not had a problem.
Hope this helps.
sgt
Hummer
Well, you've never been in love with a rifle until you get an M1
Garand. Then again, the 742 isn't exactly a fat girl ya need to drink
skinny either. :-)
Hummer
F. Edward Felson
In <xx-120896...@149.59.19.202>
asbestos!purg.atl.com!x...@uu3.psi.com (The Man) writes:
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#I am considering getting a 30-06 semi-auto.
# Does anyone have experience with both?
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#The Man
I hunt deer (some of the time) with a H&R M1 Garand. My hunting
partner uses a scoped Rem. 740 .30-06 (early model of the 742).
I killed my deer, he missed his.
Go figure.
I'd rather have 1 good M1 than several sporting rifles.
Mortalis
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eab...@connect.net
On 12 Aug 1996 12:49:23 -0400, asbestos!purg.atl.com!x...@uu3.psi.com
(The Man) wrote:
#I am considering getting a 30-06 semi-auto.
# Does anyone have experience with both?
I owned a Remington 742 (the precurser to the 7400). It shot great
groups, but kept changing the point of impact. I spoke to someone
else who had experienced the same thing and he explained that
apparently the bedding in the barrel heated up or something.
So you would get a great group in one place, adjust your scope to be
on for that spot, fire another group, and it would appear in another
place.
The M1 Garand can be a great gun, but you have to be careful in
choosing one to make sure that it's bore isn't shot out and that it is
not a rewelded one. Even then, you may have to send it to a M1 Grand
specialist to tune to get working perfectly, although many of them
work great off the rack.
I'd suggest posting a message like: how do I pick a good M-1 Garand?
Ordinary_Guy
On Aug 13, 1996 10:34:50 in article <Re: M-1 Garand or Rem 742?>,
'eab...@connect.net' wrote:
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#I'd suggest posting a message like: how do I pick a good M-1 Garand?
Folks,
Go to the FAQ. Go to the FAQ. Do not pass go, go directly to the FAQ.
There's an M1 selection guide there. All I would add is have the barrel
throat gauged (I recently splurged on a dual-purpose guage from Scott Duff,
$75).
In closing, go to the rec.guns FAQ.
First.
Regards,
Walt
Garand Collectors' Association newbie
GMJ
eab...@connect.net wrote:
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# On 12 Aug 1996 12:49:23 -0400, asbestos!purg.atl.com!x...@uu3.psi.com
# (The Man) wrote:
#
# #I am considering getting a 30-06 semi-auto.
# # Does anyone have experience with both?
#
# I owned a Remington 742 (the precurser to the 7400). It shot great
# groups, but kept changing the point of impact. I spoke to someone
# else who had experienced the same thing and he explained that
# apparently the bedding in the barrel heated up or something.
#
# So you would get a great group in one place, adjust your scope to be
# on for that spot, fire another group, and it would appear in another
# place.
#
# The M1 Garand can be a great gun, but you have to be careful in
# choosing one to make sure that it's bore isn't shot out and that it is
# not a rewelded one. Even then, you may have to send it to a M1 Grand
# specialist to tune to get working perfectly, although many of them
# work great off the rack.
#
# I'd suggest posting a message like: how do I pick a good M-1 Garand?
Well, Mr. "Man" I can ditto the wandering zero problem with the
Remington. The gas system was a rust magnet if you didn't clean it each
time. If you want a 30-06 for deer, a stainless bolt gun would be my
choice. A Garand is a Garand. Get one if you want a Garand. Get one
even if you don't want a Garand. I got mine and I'm glad I did.
--
Gary M. Jeter
Virginia State Rifle Team
Alexandria, Virginia
Keith Whaley
GMJ wrote:
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# eab...@connect.net wrote:
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# # #I am considering getting a 30-06 semi-auto.
If your only choices are the Remington 742 and the M1 rifle, there is no
question. The M1 will last forever with appropriate care, the 742 until
the "next" time it fails to do something proper, no matter HOW much care
you give it.
Not one of the better Remington products, IMHO.
'keith
Andrew Gold
Keith Whaley wrote:
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# If your only choices are the Remington 742 and the M1 rifle, there is no
# question. The M1 will last forever with appropriate care, the 742 until
# the "next" time it fails to do something proper, no matter HOW much care
# you give it.
# Not one of the better Remington products, IMHO.
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# 'keith
I had two of Remington 742's. Nothing but problems with either. I have never used the M1
rifle, but I think the 742's are absolute garbage. FWIW, I have owned and liked other
Remington products.
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Ringed with the azure world, he stands.
a poem by The wrinkled sea beneath him crawls;
Alfred, Lord Tennyson He watches from his mountain walls,
1809-1892 And like a thunderbolt he falls.
Scott Peterson
GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND!
GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND!
By the way, did I mention I like the Garand?
Ordinary_Guy
On Aug 16, 1996 14:08:09 in article <Re: M-1 Garand or Rem 742?>, 'Scott
Peterson <sfp...@utkux.utk.edu>' wrote:
#GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND!
#GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND! GARAND!
#
#By the way, did I mention I like the Garand?
Scott,
OK. But do you _like_ the Garand? Why not join the Garand Collectors
Association?
Regards,
Walt
GCA
TMartin311
I used to own a Remington Model 6 (a fancy 742 type of rifle) in 30.06.
It jammed so many times on deer, that I got rid of it.
The problem was mostly the magazine, which had to be aligned perfectly and
was difficult to do, especially in cold weather or dim light.
My DCM M-1 however, has never failed to work, in any kind of weather or
light, and has brought down many deer (and X rings)!
The M-1 is a little (O.K., a lot) heavier, and not as pretty as the Model
6, but it has never failed to fire.
Go for the Garand!
Tom M.