cosmolene: What the hell is it?
eli...@vt.edu
#Does anybody know what the chem. makeup of cosmolene is? (spelling?)
Cosmoline is a trade name: it's nothing more than un-refined petroleum jelly.
#I smallest amount that a gun shop will order for me is a 25 lb. block.
#I only need it for a rifle and a revolver, though, so I only need about 2 lb.
Go to your nearest discount store and buy two 1-pound jars of petroleum jelly.
It will work the same and it's dirt cheap.
#I can order a small amount from a chemical company, but I need the chemical
#name.
There isn't one, but "petrolatum" is a synonym.
#To the sci.chem crowd: What is the chemical makeup of it?
From the Merck Index (8th Edition):
PETROLATUM: petroleum or paraffin jelly; Vaseline; Saxoline; Cosmoline;
vasoliment. Purified mixture of semisolid hydrocarbons, chiefly of the
methane series of the general formula CnH2n+2. Actually petrolatum is a
colloidal system of non-straight solid hydrocarbons and high-boiling liquid
hydrocarbons in which most of the liquid hydrocarbons are held inside the
micelles. USE: As an ointment base and in cosmetics. Lubricating firearms
and machinery, leather grease, shoe polish, rust preventives, modeling clays.
>To the rec.guns crowd: Will that "Rip" stuff melt/evaporate in a hot, humid
> storage place when left a couple of years?
That's "RIG" gun grease, and no it won't evaporate. It's bearing cup grease
like you use in automobiles. Use petroleum jelly instead, it works as well,
is cheaper, and much less disgusting to remove.
The Elitist
Gordon Pritchard
#Does anybody know what the chem. makeup of cosmolene is? (spelling?)
#It is the greasy/waxy stuff that the military coats their wepons with when
#they put them in storage.
#I smallest amount that a gun shop will order for me is a 25 lb. block.
#I only need it for a rifle and a revolver, though, so I only need about 2 lb.
#I can order a small amount from a chemical company, but I need the chemical
#name.
Well, maybe your Sci.chem tickler worked, because I cannot help you
with the chemical makeup of cosmolene. However, in use and principle
it is very similar to Vaseline. Of course, you can buy Vaseline in
smaller quantities. I personally recommend that you drop the
cosmolene idea and get some Vaseline.
Heat it gently to melting (top of a double boiler preferred, since it
_is_ a flammable petroleum product). You can then immerse your
guns/parts to protect them, or pour/paint it onto long guns. I
imagine preheating the gun (hair dryer? Heat gun?) may help ensure
complete coverage into tricky little corners.
Yes, it _will_ be a real bitch to get it off later, but should protect
perfectly. Get it everywhere, into every little crevice, and don't be
bashful about quantity.
There should be something in print about preserving firearms in this
manner for longterm storage. Check for something in print from a
paranoid/bomb shelter/survivalist era - hey, wait a minute, that could
be _today_ :-)
Gord Pritchard (gpri...@vaniee.wimsey.bc.ca)
amrami
Does anybody know what the chem. makeup of cosmolene is? (spelling?)
I smallest amount that a gun shop will order for me is a 25 lb. block.
To the sci.chem crowd: What is the chemical makeup of it?
To the rec.guns crowd: Will that "Rip" stuff melt/evaporate in a hot, humid
storage place when left a couple of years?
If it will, what else will work?
(e-mail, please)
("Rip," or whatever it's called, is that packing grease sold in gun shops, )
( it comes in a yellow tube )
Tony Quinn
##Does anybody know what the chem. makeup of cosmolene is? (spelling?)
##It is the greasy/waxy stuff that the military coats their wepons with when
##they put them in storage.
##I smallest amount that a gun shop will order for me is a 25 lb. block.
##I only need it for a rifle and a revolver, though, so I only need about 2 lb.
##I can order a small amount from a chemical company, but I need the chemical
##name.
Call Brownells in Montezuma Iowa - they have small cans available for a
reasonable price. There are subtle differences in what you get from brownells
and the stuff you smear on your baby's bottom.
James Keane
: Does anybody know what the chem. makeup of cosmolene is? (spelling?)
: It is the greasy/waxy stuff that the military coats their wepons with when
: they put them in storage.
Cosmolene is made from a single ingredient: that gelatinous stuff left
in the bottom of cans of Spam.
Regards,
J. Sean Keane
P.S. No! Really!!!
eli...@vt.edu
# There are subtle differences in what you get from brownells
#and the stuff you smear on your baby's bottom.
No. not according to the Merck Index there aren't, except perhaps the
baby-bottom stuff is a little more "cleaned up". Either will preserve
firearms equally well.
The Elitist
Rawlin Blake
: In article <3u5rbt$g...@xring.cs.umd.edu> st...@Elroy.UH.EDU (amrami) writes:
: #Does anybody know what the chem. makeup of cosmolene is? (spelling?)
: Cosmoline is a trade name: it's nothing more than un-refined petroleum jelly.
: #I smallest amount that a gun shop will order for me is a 25 lb. block.
: #I only need it for a rifle and a revolver, though, so I only need about 2 lb.
: Go to your nearest discount store and buy two 1-pound jars of petroleum jelly.
: It will work the same and it's dirt cheap.
It may work the same in colder climates, but not here in Las Vegas, nor in any
other area where the temperature gets over 40 degrees C. Petroleum jelly
(Vaseline) has too low of a melting point. The stuff will just drip right off.
On the other hand, Cosmolene stays impossible to remove in uncooled storage
sheds at well over 45 degrees C. In case you are assuming I store guns in
a shed, no I don't. Airplane parts also come in cosmolene you know :-).
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|they put them in storage.
According to an article in _American_Rifleman_, "Cosmoline" was a
HAIR PRODUCT (echhh...).
James Keane
: In article <3uec4o$o...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, ke...@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (James Keane) writes...
: #Cosmolene is made from a single ingredient: that gelatinous stuff left
: #in the bottom of cans of Spam.
: No it is not! What you refer to is simple organic proteins
: called "gelatin" or "aspic". Gelatin is a water soluable mixture of
Hey, I live in Arizona! Last time I said "aspic" in public, it almost
caused a riot!
: amino acids while Cosmoline is a colloid of non-straight chain solid
: hydrocarbons and liquid, high boiling point micellated hydrocarbons.
: Obviously you would not expect a hydrophilic protein to be a
: good lubricating oil or a rust preventative.
I have to admit; I'm a little unsure of the rules on this one. Do I get
to keep him, or is rec.guns "catch and release"?
Regards,
J. Sean Keane
paul milligan
v111...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (P.VASILION) wrote:
~~>#Cosmolene is made from a single ingredient: that gelatinous stuff left
~~>#in the bottom of cans of Spam.
~~> No it is not! What you refer to is simple organic proteins
~~>called "gelatin" or "aspic". Gelatin is a water soluable mixture of
~~>amino acids while Cosmoline is a colloid of non-straight chain solid
~~>hydrocarbons and liquid, high boiling point micellated hydrocarbons.
OK, OK, but what the hell is SPAM ? I mean, what's in that
delightful luncheon mystery meat, anyway ?
James Keane
: ACTUALLY IT'S THE SAME AS SPAM!!
Hey!!! Bait your own hook!
Regards,
J. Sean Keane
P.VASILION
#: Does anybody know what the chem. makeup of cosmolene is? (spelling?)
#: It is the greasy/waxy stuff that the military coats their wepons with when
#: they put them in storage.
#
#Cosmolene is made from a single ingredient: that gelatinous stuff left
#Regards,
#
#J. Sean Keane
No it is not! What you refer to is simple organic proteins
called "gelatin" or "aspic". Gelatin is a water soluable mixture of
amino acids while Cosmoline is a colloid of non-straight chain solid
hydrocarbons and liquid, high boiling point micellated hydrocarbons.
Obviously you would not expect a hydrophilic protein to be a
good lubricating oil or a rust preventative.
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John Griffith
# #st...@Elroy.UH.EDU (amrami) wrote:
#
ACnTUALLY
# ##Does anybody know what the chem. makeup of cosmolene is? (spelling?)
# ##It is the greasy/waxy stuff that the military coats their wepons with when
# ##they put them in storage.
# ##I smallest amount that a gun shop will order for me is a 25 lb. block.
# ##I only need it for a rifle and a revolver, though, so I only need about 2 l
b.
# ##I can order a small amount from a chemical company, but I need the chemical
# ##name.
#
# Call Brownells in Montezuma Iowa - they have small cans available for a
# reasonable price. There are subtle differences in what you get from brownell
s
# and the stuff you smear on your baby's bottom.
#
# aqu...@crash.cts.com
#
ACTUALLY IT'S THE SAME AS SPAM!!
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years. Since it is a mixture, there is no one chemical name for it. The
good news is that small quantities can be purchased very reasonably from
Brownells, 200 S. Front Street, Montezuma, Iowa, 50171-8701 or phone
515-623-5401. They are a VERY reputable outfit and also sell RIG as well
as every other gun preservative and gunsmithing supply and tool
imaginable. Be sure and get their catalog!
Todd
Bill Pickering
In article <3uhnq2$3...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, James Keane
(ke...@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu) wrote:
# P.VASILION (v111...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:
# : In article <3uec4o$o...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, ke...@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu
(James Keane) writes...
# : #Cosmolene is made from a single ingredient: that gelatinous stuff left
# : #in the bottom of cans of Spam.
# : No it is not! What you refer to is simple organic proteins
# : called "gelatin" or "aspic". Gelatin is a water soluable mixture of
<snip>
# I have to admit; I'm a little unsure of the rules on this one. Do I get
# to keep him, or is rec.guns "catch and release"?
# Regards,
# J. Sean Keane
To quote the alt.folklore.urban FAQ, "Trolling outside of AFU is pretty
weak."
I think you have to throw him back.
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james feldman
In article <3uhnq2$3...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, ke...@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (James Keane) writes:
|>P.VASILION (v111...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:
|>: In article <3uec4o$o...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, ke...@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (James Keane) writes...
|>
|>: #Cosmolene is made from a single ingredient: that gelatinous stuff left
|>: #in the bottom of cans of Spam.
|>
|>: No it is not! What you refer to is simple organic proteins
|>: called "gelatin" or "aspic". Gelatin is a water soluable mixture of
|>
|>Hey, I live in Arizona! Last time I said "aspic" in public, it almost
|>caused a riot!
|>
|>: amino acids while Cosmoline is a colloid of non-straight chain solid
|>: hydrocarbons and liquid, high boiling point micellated hydrocarbons.
|>
|>: Obviously you would not expect a hydrophilic protein to be a
|>: good lubricating oil or a rust preventative.
|>
|>I have to admit; I'm a little unsure of the rules on this one. Do I get
|>to keep him, or is rec.guns "catch and release"?
Typically the later, unless you hook 'em in the .45vs9mm pond or during the
open season of Feb. 29 through March 1st.
--
Jim Feldman
My opinions are my own and in no way reflect Digital's POV (unless they're
charging somebody for me to give them).
Tony Quinn
#From: p...@nando.net (paul milligan)
#Subject: Re: cosmolene: What the hell is it?
#Date: 18 Jul 1995 21:39:37 -0400
#In article <3ufd18$r...@xring.cs.umd.edu>,
# v111...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (P.VASILION) wrote:
#~~>#Cosmolene is made from a single ingredient: that gelatinous stuff left
#~~>#in the bottom of cans of Spam.
#~~> No it is not! What you refer to is simple organic proteins
#~~>called "gelatin" or "aspic". Gelatin is a water soluable mixture of
#~~>amino acids while Cosmoline is a colloid of non-straight chain solid
#~~>hydrocarbons and liquid, high boiling point micellated hydrocarbons.
# OK, OK, but what the hell is SPAM ? I mean, what's in that
#delightful luncheon mystery meat, anyway ?
Cosmolene is not made of Spam - Spam is made with cosmolene.
eli...@vt.edu
# OK, OK, but what the hell is SPAM ? I mean, what's in that
#delightful luncheon mystery meat, anyway ?
Miscellaneous otherwise-unusable animal parts...
This really belongs in rec.eating (or is it "retch.eating"?)
The Elitist