WTF : Trigger Job for Walther P99?
Geoffrey L. Hardin
A friend of mine gave me a Walther P99. Interesting little gun, but
I'll be danged if I can stand the rather peculiar trigger on the thing.
Does anyone know of either a drop-in improved trigger or of a 'smithy
who will rework the trigger into something a bit more. . .normal?
I thank you all for your assistance!
Geoffrey L. Hardin,
geo...@abcs.com
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john
I'd be VERY interested to know - TIA
As far as a gunsmith and GOOD advise - "EARL's" in Mass. is the "best"
(arguably, and in MY opinion) for Walther's, on this side of the pond -
they have a website.
good luck
DunnGun
#I'll be danged if I can stand the rather peculiar trigger on the thing.
What is it, to even a pull or too smooth?
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Geoffrey L. Hardin
DunnGun wrote:
##A friend of mine gave me a Walther P99. Interesting little gun, but
##I'll be danged if I can stand the rather peculiar trigger on the thing.
#
#What is it, to even a pull or too smooth?
#
Ah, how so very clever. Are all your insults so subtle?
While I freely admit that my rather myopic preferences in handguns for
self-defense and competition are a bit dated and somewhat troglodytic,
they are my own. While I am not aware of your obviously extensive and
INtensive training and experience in firearms, I am aware of mine which
qualifies for both adjectives in Law Enforcement, military and civilian
venues.
Inasmuch as I am used to a more traditional, crisp and short trigger
pull, the length of travel for the P99's trigger is, to me, entirely too
long. The reset point is inconsistent on the specimen I possess (a
German Walther P99).
Otherwise, the pistol appears to be quite exemplary, especially in the
area of ergonomics and features. I prefer not to "get used to" a unique
trigger pull.
Perhaps some of us are a bit more discriminatory in what weapons we
choose upon which to stake our lives, and the lives of our loved ones.
Until this pistol meets MY requirements (not yours nor anyone else's),
it will be relegated to a position of nothing more than "interesting" in
my collection. I will have to think long and hard, even if such
modifications are made and found to be satisfactory after extensive
testing, before I replace my standard carry gun, an H&K USP45 Expert,
through which I already have around 30k rounds.
Geoffrey L. Hardin,
geo...@abcs.com
BTW, if it's so smooth and even, why are there gunsmiths who have
improvements already available?
Red
One of my better friends in undergraduate school was named Geoffrey, and he
too was a hoot, since he spoke both the finest of the 'Queen's English' as
well as 'Educated American.' From the Islands and he would regale me with
some of the stories of his mother's bridge club's battles with the local
lizards.
I have no idea why a gun would have an inconsistent fire control mechanism,
as you describe. Hand guns have two ( or three, ) modes of trigger type, in
that they are normally either single or double action or ( hybrid. ) The
best of the single action pulls are those of the 1911 genre of automatic
pistols, while the older Colt revolvers, ending with the Pythons of the 1964
era, have the finest of double action pulls. Everything can be made to
approach these mechanisms, though it is not a simple task in many cases.
I have not paid much attention to the trigger pulls of most of my firearms
since they are all slightly or dramatically different from one another. I
worry more about the sight picture / trigger pull than about any single
point. You have chosen a nice pistol as a 'standard.' Having found a
handgun that you like, why change? It can take a suppressor so that the
bats on your ceiling will not be disturbed by the noise of your firing the
gun in a Mr. McGoo fashion at every thing within 6 inches ( The normal
reading range for nearsighted persons or those whom we sometimes call
'squint eyes' in our synarchtopy, a word I seldom use, giving the ursine
scarcity in locus local. )
If you have the gun that I think you have, it is a comfortable gun that S&W
copied and you may have one of those rather than the real ones. Have you
Donned your reading glasses to check the maker's marquee? The sights were
the oddity that would take me a greater time to find comfort in, for the
trigger pull on the Walther was good. Sometimes one gets the chicken and
sometimes one gets the feathers. You may have gotten a goose egg or simply
a wild goose, ( defined as two inches off center. )
As a final aside, having been refused the service of 'The Executive Lunch,'
( for I look like a sack full of door knobs in my Harris Tweeds, ) someday I
may be able to find a person who will be sympathetic enough to sell me an
'Expert' handgun.
Cordially, let no one dilute your Port, and keep a supply of 'O' rings,
Red
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Geoffrey L. Hardin
# Geoffrey:
# One of my better friends in undergraduate school was named Geoffrey, and he
# too was a hoot, since he spoke both the finest of the 'Queen's English' as
# well as 'Educated American.' From the Islands and he would regale me with
# some of the stories of his mother's bridge club's battles with the local
# lizards.
Unfortunately, I am originally from the Midwest. I guess I watched
entirely too much PBS during my formative years. . .
. . .snip. . .
# You have chosen a nice pistol as a 'standard.' Having found a
# handgun that you like, why change?
Oh, I wasn't necessarily going to change simply because I obtained
another firearm. But I'm also not so close-minded as to ignore any
real advantages. If that P99 shot better than my USP Expert AND
proved reliable enough, then I might consider it for a standard
defensive pistol.
I, too, have lofty requirements for a defensive pistol, especially
when one considers that it may be pressed into service to defend the
lives of myself and my family members. I wouldn't make such a change
to another pistol so lightly.
# It can take a suppressor so that the
# bats on your ceiling will not be disturbed by the noise of your firing the
# gun in a Mr. McGoo fashion at every thing within 6 inches ( The normal
# reading range for nearsighted persons or those whom we sometimes call
# 'squint eyes' in our synarchtopy, a word I seldom use, giving the ursine
# scarcity in locus local. )
Hmm. I think you have the Expert ( http://www.hkpro.com/uspexpert.htm
) confused with the either the Tactical Model (
http://www.hkpro.com/usptactical.htm ) or the SOCOM pistol (
http://www.hkpro.com/socom.htm ). The USP Expert has the longer
barrel AND the longer slide. The slide on the Expert is almost 3/4"
longer than the Tactical model which is little more than a standard
USP with "match" grade trigger and a longer, threaded barrel.
I doubt that I'll ever have a need for a suppressor, though. :-)
#
# If you have the gun that I think you have, it is a comfortable gun that S&W
# copied and you may have one of those rather than the real ones. Have you
# Donned your reading glasses to check the maker's marquee?
Yes, it is a true German P99. That's already been confirmed and I did
find a 'smithy who is experienced in reworking the trigger for me.
#The sights were
# the oddity that would take me a greater time to find comfort in, for the
# trigger pull on the Walther was good. Sometimes one gets the chicken and
# sometimes one gets the feathers. You may have gotten a goose egg or simply
# a wild goose, ( defined as two inches off center. )
The pistol does seem to shoot rather well, I just do not like the
trigger. I prefer to have no, or very, very little, movement between
the point where I first put my finger on the trigger and when the
trigger contacts the sear for movement to release the hammer (or
striker or whatever).
Again, it's just a personal preference for a personal sidearm.
#
# As a final aside, having been refused the service of 'The Executive Lunch,'
# ( for I look like a sack full of door knobs in my Harris Tweeds, ) someday I
# may be able to find a person who will be sympathetic enough to sell me an
# 'Expert' handgun.
# Cordially, let no one dilute your Port, and keep a supply of 'O' rings,
# Red
I shall, Red, and I thank you for your discourse.
Geoffrey L. Hardin,
geo...@abcs.com