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Deuteros

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May 28, 2007, 11:16:47 PM5/28/07
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I went out and fired about 20 rounds through my new Yugo SKS today. I was
using Wolf FMJ rounds. The first three or four shots were fine but after that
it would jam after every single shot. I had to manually pull the bolt back to
extract the old round and chamber a new one. This surprised me because I was
under the impression that these rifles almost never jammed.

Can anyone tell me why this happens?


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Rick Davis

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May 29, 2007, 6:45:21 AM5/29/07
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Without examining it, I can't say for certain.

A few things to check:
-->The gas selector valve either off, partially off or leaking
-->Worn extractor or extractor spring
-->Foreign object between extractor and bolt
-->Laquer buildup in chamber from casings
-->Ammunition problem-did you try another brand or type of ammunition?

A local aquaintance had the same problem. He switched ammunition and the
problem cleared up.

"Deuteros" <deut...@xrs.net> wrote in message
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#I went out and fired about 20 rounds through my new Yugo SKS today. I was
# using Wolf FMJ rounds. The first three or four shots were fine but after
# that
# it would jam after every single shot. I had to manually pull the bolt back
# to
# extract the old round and chamber a new one.

Ron Bloom

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May 29, 2007, 6:45:26 AM5/29/07
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What kind of jam are we talking? You fire the rifle, the bolt does not
slide to the rear? When you pull the bolt carrier to the rear, is it hard
to do? Sounds like a gas problem if it is not hard to pull back the bolt
carrier. The Yugo has a gas cut-off, is it on?

R.M.R.

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May 29, 2007, 6:45:30 AM5/29/07
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Deuteros wrote:#I went out and fired about 20 rounds through my new
Yugo SKS today.#I was using Wolf FMJ rounds.#The first three or four

shots were fine but after that it would jam after every single shot. I
had to manually pull the bolt back to
extract the old round and chamber a new one.#This surprised me because

I was
under the impression that these rifles almost never jammed.

~~~~~
Almost never jammed, catchy phrase. Did you clean the dog snot out of
it. I mean really elbow grease clean. I don't dicker around with
conventional cleaners when it comes to AK's or SKS's especially if hot
off the boat. I haul them down to the local feed the meter high
pressure car wash and blast the crap out, even than there could still
be some remnants left behind.May not be the reason but an easy
start...

Ray,

(Si vis pacem
para bellum) U.S.A.

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200...@gmail.com

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May 29, 2007, 6:45:37 AM5/29/07
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On May 28, 8:16 pm, Deuteros <deute...@xrs.net> wrote:
# I went out and fired about 20 rounds through my new Yugo SKS today. I was
# using Wolf FMJ rounds. The first three or four shots were fine but after that
# it would jam after every single shot. I had to manually pull the bolt back to
# extract the old round and chamber a new one. This surprised me because I was
# under the impression that these rifles almost never jammed.
#


ive seen that on the ones that have the grenade launcher package

Rex

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May 29, 2007, 7:20:11 PM5/29/07
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200...@gmail.com wrote:
# On May 28, 8:16 pm, Deuteros <deute...@xrs.net> wrote:
# # I went out and fired about 20 rounds through my new Yugo SKS today. I was
# # using Wolf FMJ rounds. The first three or four shots were fine but after that
# # it would jam after every single shot. I had to manually pull the bolt back to
# # extract the old round and chamber a new one. This surprised me because I was
# # under the impression that these rifles almost never jammed.
# #
#
#
# ive seen that on the ones that have the grenade launcher package

If it's a Yugo, then it has (had) a grenade launcher and has a gas valve.

sksp...@gmail.com

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May 29, 2007, 7:20:13 PM5/29/07
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On May 28, 9:16 pm, Deuteros <deute...@xrs.net> wrote:
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As others have stated, it's most likely that the gas tube shutoff
valve, or that it's just simply not clean enough. From what you
describe it sounds like you have relegated your rifle to bolt action
operation by leaving the valve open.

If you have not done so already, I suggest reading over the SKS pages
at http://www.surplusrifle.com, as it's the best resource I've found
for the SKS and many other milsurp rifles that shows in detail steps
for assembly/disassembly and cleaning. Also, I'd suggest *completely*
disassembling the rifle and thoroughly cleaning whether you've done it
already or not. If you have *not* done this already you are putting
yourself at serious risk, as these rifles are notorious for slam
firing if the bolt has not been properly cleaned. When you're done
cleaning it, clean it again. You'd be surprised how much cosmoline
seeps out from the nooks and crannies after the rifle heats up a bit.

I've fired thousands of rounds of Wolf ammo from my SKS and have
experienced only 2-3 failures to feed or extract. These rifles have
pretty loose tolerances, so it's pretty difficult to get them to
malfunction in this manner.

Good luck!

Deuteros

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May 30, 2007, 7:09:48 AM5/30/07
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"Ron Bloom" <rcbl...@cox.net> wrote in
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# What kind of jam are we talking? You fire the rifle, the bolt does not
# slide to the rear? When you pull the bolt carrier to the rear, is it
# hard to do? Sounds like a gas problem if it is not hard to pull back
# the bolt carrier. The Yugo has a gas cut-off, is it on?

I checked and the gas cut-off is in semi mode, not grenade mode. I haven't
messed with it since I fired it. When it started jamming, the bolt was
very difficult to pull back after each shot.

Maybe it's just gunked up.

ToddP

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May 30, 2007, 7:09:52 AM5/30/07
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On May 28, 11:16 pm, Deuteros <deute...@xrs.net> wrote:

Sounds like the classic Yugo gas valve problem. See this:
http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews2006/yugosksvalve/index.asp

The article has a link to a replacement valve (about $10).

There are also articles that tell how to make a gasket out of a paper
clip. But for all of $10, I'd go the replacement route.

Pradipta-Mordehai Ivanow-Lu

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May 30, 2007, 7:09:55 AM5/30/07
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# # # using Wolf FMJ rounds. The first three or four shots were fine but
# after that
# # # it would jam after every single shot. I had to manually pull the bolt
# back to

wolf adds dirt to gunpowder..
try to clean gas tube..

200...@gmail.com

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Jun 2, 2007, 7:46:24 AM6/2/07
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On May 30, 4:09 am, ToddP <todd.prick...@gmail.com> wrote:
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looks like if you ream out the gas valve a millimeter it would fix it

Ron Bloom

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Jun 2, 2007, 8:00:36 PM6/2/07
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He said it was difficult to pull back the bolt carrier. That is not a gas
problem, the is a chamber problem.


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Jun 3, 2007, 7:56:42 AM6/3/07
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On Jun 2, 5:00 pm, "Ron Bloom" <rcblo...@cox.net> wrote:
# He said it was difficult to pull back the bolt carrier. That is not a gas
# problem, the is a chamber problem.
#

he said he had to manually pull the bolt back, if he could manually
pull the bolt back then it wasn't a chamber problem
because the gas system when working will kick out sticky cases that
you would need to use a boot on the bolt carrier to remove

Ron Bloom

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Jun 3, 2007, 4:43:54 PM6/3/07
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<200...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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# On Jun 2, 5:00 pm, "Ron Bloom" <rcblo...@cox.net> wrote:
# # He said it was difficult to pull back the bolt carrier. That is not a
# gas
# # problem, the is a chamber problem.
# #
#

# he said he had to manually pull the bolt back, if he could manually
# pull the bolt back then it wasn't a chamber problem
# because the gas system when working will kick out sticky cases that
# you would need to use a boot on the bolt carrier to remove


He told me in a private email that the colt carrier was difficult to pull
back. That is not normal, but I do not know what his definition of
"difficult" is either. It could be "difficult" because he had to overcome
the hammer being up against the rear of the carrier after he pulled the
trigger. Could be a combination of both, weak gas and rough chamber. If
the gas was working and the case jammed in the chamber, you are correct the
bolt carrier should recoil, and if need be, rip the rim right off the stuck
case.

johnand...@yahoo.com

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Jun 3, 2007, 8:03:22 PM6/3/07
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On Jun 3, 4:43 pm, "Ron Bloom" <rcblo...@cox.net> wrote:
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Older Yugos have a problem with gas leakage at the front portion of
the gas tube. One easy fix is to put some Red RTV on the tube and
mate it up. This will work for a while until it blows out and you
have to do it again.

John from MD

wb

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Jun 10, 2007, 12:07:14 PM6/10/07
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The number one problem with Yugo SKS is the failure to properly
dissassemble the rifle and clean out all the cosmoline. These rifles
were generally dunked in the stuff then wrapped up in oil paper and
stored away. When you get a new one, many times only the cosmetic
portions of the rifle have been cleaned of this grease like substance.
If you do not totally tear down the rifle and clean every part of this
cosmoline, your rifle will jam and in some cases slam fire. (The Yugo
does NOT have a firing pin return spring. The SKS can be tore down in
about one minute. It can easily be reassembled in a couple minutes. No
tricky parts or heavy "bang zoom where the hell did that f%^&**& spring
go" springs. When the Yugo is cleaned and properly lubed, it shoots just
about anything flawless. Be careful, though, This rifle does NOT have a
chrome lined barrel. Good barrel cleaning practices are a must or you
can damage the barrel. In my experiences at teh range, the Yugo and
Russian SKS are the best of the SKS rifles.
.


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Jun 11, 2007, 6:49:06 AM6/11/07
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soo... next time buy something which is not "cheap priced".
something which can shoot right from the box without soaking 5hrs in
gasoline..

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ToddP

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Jun 12, 2007, 8:03:30 AM6/12/07
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On Jun 11, 6:49 am, "Pradipta-Mordehai Ivanow-Lu" <s...@solovyev.com>
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# soo... next time buy something which is not "cheap priced".
# something which can shoot right from the box without soaking 5hrs in
# gasoline..

Nonsense. For under $200 and two hours of cleaning time you can have
one heck of a fun and reliable gun.

John Kepler

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Jun 14, 2007, 6:46:33 AM6/14/07
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"Pradipta-Mordehai Ivanow-Lu" <sp...@solovyev.com> wrote in message
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# soo... next time buy something which is not "cheap priced".
# something which can shoot right from the box without soaking 5hrs in
# gasoline..

You dumb enough to sit there for the whole 5 hours watching the rifle soak?
Figure 10 minutes to disassemble the rifle, another 10 to reassemble
it....if it takes you any more time, you're too "mechanically challenged" to
be buying ANY firearm! If 20 minutes is too much time, you don't have the
time to shoot it in the first place, no matter how much you spend on it!

FWIW. I disassemble ANY mil-surp rifle I buy and dump it into the parts
washer out in the shop for a day or three. Does wonders for even the most
"challenging"-condition firearms.

John

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