7.62x39 Bolt action??
Jerome Kielley
Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
David J. Collins
Jerome Kielley wrote:
#
# Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
Ruger was making their Model 77 for a while in that caliber, but I don't
know if they still do. Also, I think the Mini Mark X rifles were
available in the 7.62x39mm caliber. The availability of them kinda
dried up when the Balkan "unrest" started...
John Ross
jer...@maxinet.com (Jerome Kielley) wrote:
#Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
Ruger made a run of stainless M77s for Davidson's, and Interarms has the little
Mauser-actioned rifle in this caliber. There may be others.
JR
Ordinary_Guy
jer...@maxinet.com (Jerome Kielley) wrote:
#Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
Jerry,
Yes, three.
1. Sako made a version of their small action rifle that was imported
in the late '60's.
2. One or more of the Chinese firearms importers brought in either
Mausers or M91s chambered in 7.62x39mm M43. Sorry I don't remember
which, but frankly I don't care.
3. Ruger filled a special order from Davidson's for the Ruger
All-Weather KM77MKII in 7.62x39mm M43. I've got one.
Anybody know of any other regular production rifles?
Regards,
Walt
Ruger Collectors' Association #97
eliz...@aol.com
A few years back a company,who's name I can't recall, had a special run of
Ruger Model 77's in 7.62x39mm. They were stainless steel, w/o sights and
had the Ruger style black fiberglass stock. Maybe one of the Ruger
collectors can help?
Arne Carlsten
Ordinary_Guy <wjku...@pipeline.com> wrote:
: jer...@maxinet.com (Jerome Kielley) wrote:
: #Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
: Jerry,
: Yes, three.
: 1. Sako made a version of their small action rifle that was imported
: in the late '60's.
: 2. One or more of the Chinese firearms importers brought in either
: Mausers or M91s chambered in 7.62x39mm M43. Sorry I don't remember
: which, but frankly I don't care.
These were Japanese 6.5mm Arisakas that had been rebarreled (and otherwise
modified?) to 7.62mmx39 by the Chinese at some point. Most likely for
militia issue. I think Century Arms was the importer; but it was a fair
bit back, and whoever the importer was, they sold out almost immediately.
: 3. Ruger filled a special order from Davidson's for the Ruger
: All-Weather KM77MKII in 7.62x39mm M43. I've got one.
: Anybody know of any other regular production rifles?
The Interarms/Zastava Mk X Mini-Mauser. But these seem to be getting hard
to find due to the war in the former Yugoslavia.
--
Arne Gustav Carlsten
Flagstaff, Arizona
Chomh da/na le muc...
Eric Ching
David J. Collins wrote:
#
# #
#
# Ruger was making their Model 77 for a while in that caliber, but I don't
# know if they still do. Also, I think the Mini Mark X rifles were
# available in the 7.62x39mm caliber. The availability of them kinda
# dried up when the Balkan "unrest" started...
Norinco also made one that was being distributed by Navy Arms.
Haven't seen it advertised in awhile, but Navy Arms may still have
some in stock.
--
Eric Ching
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Jerome Kielley wrote:
#
If you dig back through the last couple years of the Rifleman,
you'll find a story, mentioned on the cover, that describes the
construction of a semi-custom Sako in this caliber. My copy,
alas, seems to have escaped.
Sako's online catalog at
http://www.shooters.com/sako/rifles.htm
doesn't seem to list 7.62x39, but if what's left of my memory
serves, a necked-down version of this cartridge is used for
some kind of elite benchrest shooting and they offer *that*.
So you know they make an appropriate action. A good rifle-
smith could figure out how to obtain your choice of a .308"
bore barrel (a la the Ruger semiautos in this caliber) or
something more in the .310-.312" line.
It's also possible that Sako is willing to turn out a custom
rifle (they seem to indicate willingness to checker and engrave
the wood to order). They make cartridges in it, which is a
hopeful sign.
You'll end up chewing a thousand-dollar bill into rags in return
for an admittedly nice rifle of modest range and power, if you
go the semi-custom route.
Have fun and shoot safely,
--Joe
Isabell Fuhrmann
On 27 Nov 1996, Ordinary_Guy wrote:
# jer...@maxinet.com (Jerome Kielley) wrote:
#
# #Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
#
# 2. One or more of the Chinese firearms importers brought in either
# Mausers or M91s chambered in 7.62x39mm M43. Sorry I don't remember
# which, but frankly I don't care.
There was also an Arisaka carbine re-chambered by the Chinese to 7,62 x 39.
Looked like an awfully nice little gun.
Regards,
Alexander Eichener
Trying to come up with a new one
In <57htnm$7...@xring.cs.umd.edu> jer...@maxinet.com (Jerome Kielley)
writes:
#Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
#
Navy Arms supposedly imported a Chinese bolt action chambered for this
round. Seems like I heard Ruger had chambered the M77 in this
cartridge also, but I haven't seen one.
Gun Parts Corp (914 679 2417) has 7.62x39mm barrels to fit most
military Mauser actions (M93/M95/M96/M98).
--
Mortalis: Licensed to Carry
Member: NRA, OBA, HOG, DU, Red Castle Gun Club,
Early Bronco Registry, Fairland Boy's Choir
lawrence keeney
Jerome Kielley wrote:
#
# Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
Jerome
I believe Ruger makes a bolt action one in that caliber,Or at least they
did a couple of years ago.
Lawrence Keeney
Byron
David J. Collins wrote:
#
# #
# # Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
# Ruger was making their Model 77 for a while in that caliber, but I don't
# know if they still do. Also, I think the Mini Mark X rifles were
# available in the 7.62x39mm caliber. The availability of them kinda
# dried up when the Balkan "unrest" started...
This was a special "one-shot" order from Davidson's. Only a few hundere
made, I love mine!
Byron
Dennis Kroh
# Jerome Kielley wrote:
# #
# # Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
#
Well, I have one for sale.
It is a custom rifle built on a Carcano action with a new (Douglas?)
barrel in 7.62x39. It uses standard Carcano clips (fits the M43 just
fine) and so holds six rounds. It has a parkerized finish and a lovely
FAJEN stock of fiddleback maple. The rear sight is of the elevator
type, the front sight dovetailed in the barrel.
There was a LOT of work put into this rifle, and it sure is fun to shoot
(and pretty accurate, as well). I'm asking $250 including shipping if
anyone is interested.
Dennis Kroh, Empire Arms
Rick Greninger
In article <57ibhl$o...@camel1.mindspring.com>, wjku...@pipeline.com says...
#
#jer...@maxinet.com (Jerome Kielley) wrote:
#
##Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
#
#Jerry,
#
#Yes, three.
#
#1. Sako made a version of their small action rifle that was imported
#in the late '60's.
#
#2. One or more of the Chinese firearms importers brought in either
#Mausers or M91s chambered in 7.62x39mm M43. Sorry I don't remember
#which, but frankly I don't care.
#
#3. Ruger filled a special order from Davidson's for the Ruger
#All-Weather KM77MKII in 7.62x39mm M43. I've got one.
#
#Anybody know of any other regular production rifles?
#
#Regards,
#
#Walt
#Ruger Collectors' Association #97
#
#
Walt,
In addition to your list, Interarms Mini Mark X were chambered for the 7.62 x 39.
The rifles were built in the former Yugoslavia on the Mauser design.
Wish I could have bought one before imports were resricted, but I was able to obtain
Rugers 77/II, excellent firearm although I've never been too crazy about Ruger's
synthetic stocks!
Good shootin'
Rick
hubbard
eliz...@aol.com wrote:
#
# A few years back a company,who's name I can't recall, had a special run of
# Ruger Model 77's in 7.62x39mm. They were stainless steel, w/o sights and
# had the Ruger style black fiberglass stock. Maybe one of the Ruger
# collectors can help?
Elizal:
I bought a Century Arms bolt action rifle a couple of years ago that was
a Mauser action chambered for 7.62 x 39 (paid $300 or so for it). It
was an ok rifle except that it would not handle military cartridges
satisfactorily. The thin case on Chinese ammo expands during firing so
that even the tough Mauser action would not eject the spent shell
without a lot of help. Since such a situation is unacceptable in the
field, I traded it to a gunsmith. The rifle might be ok with higher
quality brass. However, keep in mind that the ballistics of 7.62x39 are
very close to the .30-30 cartridge.
Carl Hubbard
Arne Carlsten
Trying to come up with a new one <mort...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
: In <57htnm$7...@xring.cs.umd.edu> jer...@maxinet.com (Jerome Kielley)
: writes:
: #
: #Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
: #
: Navy Arms supposedly imported a Chinese bolt action chambered for this
: round. Seems like I heard Ruger had chambered the M77 in this
: cartridge also, but I haven't seen one.
: Gun Parts Corp (914 679 2417) has 7.62x39mm barrels to fit most
: military Mauser actions (M93/M95/M96/M98).
I'd forgotten about these...
A friend had one installed on a salvaged Chinese Mauser-clone action
(Mauser 98 rifle made in a Chinese arsenal with counterfeit Mauserwerke
markings). Figured the action wasn't worth risking with a high power
round like 7.62mm NATO, even though it had apparently survived 50-some
years of 7.92mm use and Chinese military wear and tear.
The '98 action seems to work with the 7.62mmx39 round, at least as far as
firing and extracting; he was still trying to get the magazine insert to
work to make feeding reliable last time we talked about this conversion.
Not the most graceful rifle; the '98 action is a fair bit larger than
needed for the 7.62mmx39. If I were interested in a bolt action in this
chambering I'd be more inclined towards a Mk X Mini-Mauser, a Sako or a
Ruger 77. But the GPC conversion is an option, especially if you have a
Mauser 98 (or other Mauser model) action laying around. The M95 Mausers
retailing for under $100 would seem good candidates. Just don't wreck a
collector-grade rifle for this: pick one with a bad bore, mismatched
numbers, lots of cosmetic damage...
Dino V. Germano
# Jerome Kielley wrote:
# #
# # Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
#
# If you dig back through the last couple years of the Rifleman,
# you'll find a story, mentioned on the cover, that describes the
# construction of a semi-custom Sako in this caliber. My copy,
# alas, seems to have escaped.........
# .....It's also possible that Sako is willing to turn out a custom
# rifle (they seem to indicate willingness to checker and engrave
# the wood to order)........
# .....You'll end up chewing a thousand-dollar bill into rags in return
# for an admittedly nice rifle of modest range and power, if you
# go the semi-custom route.
#
# Have fun and shoot safely,
# --Joe
Or you can have any small ring Mauser re-barreled using a Gun Parts
Corp 7.62X39 barrel, as I recall they were less than a hun or so. Or you
could do what I did and have a Carcano rebarreled to it. The head and rim
size are damn close, and 7.62X39 feeds fine out of the issue clips. I paid
$109.45 to have a folding spike bayonet Carcano carbine rebarreled by
Multi-Standared M-S, Rt.1, Box 139, Butternut WI 54514. I hope he is still
in business. (and no I do not get a commission) I use mine for WWII
re-enacting, but it shoots ball just fine.
Dino in Reno
Isabell Fuhrmann
On 29 Nov 1996, Arne Carlsten wrote:
# The '98 action seems to work with the 7.62mmx39 round, at least as far as
# firing and extracting; he was still trying to get the magazine insert to
# work to make feeding reliable last time we talked about this conversion.
#
# Not the most graceful rifle; the '98 action is a fair bit larger than
# needed for the 7.62mmx39.
*Grin* The Germans found this out by themselves when they experimented,
in the last months of WW II, with chambering the Kar 98k for their
"Sturmgewehr" 8 x 33 mm cartridge - same problems.
Regards, Alexander Eichener
c...@oink.rhein.de
Bill Shadish
Also at least a year back, Century had been selling a small ring m98 mauser
sporter, chambering 7.62x39. Walnut stock, new barrels, etc.
I really wanted one of those, but they were sold out by the time I found
out about them.
There may be some of those out there for sale.
--Bill
eliz...@aol.com wrote in article
<19961128001...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
# A few years back a company,who's name I can't recall, had a special run
of
# Ruger Model 77's in 7.62x39mm. They were stainless steel, w/o sights and
# had the Ruger style black fiberglass stock. Maybe one of the Ruger
# collectors can help?
#
#
qks...@aol.com
Ruger made a small run of stainless steel bolt action rifles. They have
the all-weather stocks and are very accurate. The quality is excellent
like all Ruger products.
David Coleman
#
#I bought a Century Arms bolt action rifle a couple of years ago that was
#a Mauser action chambered for 7.62 x 39 (paid $300 or so for it). It
#was an ok rifle except that it would not handle military cartridges
#satisfactorily. The thin case on Chinese ammo expands during firing so
#that even the tough Mauser action would not eject the spent shell
#without a lot of help. Since such a situation is unacceptable in the
#field, I traded it to a gunsmith. The rifle might be ok with higher
#quality brass. However, keep in mind that the ballistics of 7.62x39 are
#very close to the .30-30 cartridge.
#
#Carl Hubbard
#
If this is the one built on a 98 Mauser action, I haven't had any
trouble with mine. I have shot several of the different military types
of ammo and handloads with Rem. and Win. cases.
I had wanted a 7.62x39 bolt action for 2 or 3 years and found this one
unfired at a gunshow with a scope mount, rings and a Bushnell scope
for $230 total. I REALLY like shooting this gun; no recoil, and not
that much muzzle blast. Plus it goes real good with the AK and SKS.
David Coleman
Hollandale, MS
davidc...@juno.com
Gale Barrows
hubbard <hub...@txdirect.net> wrote:
#eliz...@aol.com wrote:
##
## A few years back a company,who's name I can't recall, had a special run of
## Ruger Model 77's in 7.62x39mm. They were stainless steel, w/o sights and
## had the Ruger style black fiberglass stock. Maybe one of the Ruger
## collectors can help?
#Elizal:
#I bought a Century Arms bolt action rifle a couple of years ago that was
#a Mauser action chambered for 7.62 x 39 (paid $300 or so for it). It
#was an ok rifle except that it would not handle military cartridges
#satisfactorily. The thin case on Chinese ammo expands during firing so
#that even the tough Mauser action would not eject the spent shell
#without a lot of help. Since such a situation is unacceptable in the
#field, I traded it to a gunsmith. The rifle might be ok with higher
#quality brass. However, keep in mind that the ballistics of 7.62x39 are
#very close to the .30-30 cartridge.
#Carl Hubbard
A polished chamber would help. The Century rifles I saw (built on
Mexican 1910 actions) had rather rough chambers and needed a quicky
polishing.
Gale Barrows
Dennis Kroh <kr...@juno.com> wrote:
## Jerome Kielley wrote:
## #
## # Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
##
#Well, I have one for sale.
#It is a custom rifle built on a Carcano action with a new (Douglas?)
#barrel in 7.62x39. It uses standard Carcano clips (fits the M43 just
#fine) and so holds six rounds. It has a parkerized finish and a lovely
#FAJEN stock of fiddleback maple. The rear sight is of the elevator
#type, the front sight dovetailed in the barrel.
#There was a LOT of work put into this rifle, and it sure is fun to shoot
#(and pretty accurate, as well). I'm asking $250 including shipping if
#anyone is interested.
#Dennis Kroh, Empire Arms
What had to be done to this rifle to make it feed? I would think the
difference in cartridge length might give problems. I have several
Carcano rifles stacked in the corners with bad barrels or bad other
stuff and this might be a way to use one or two up. I am experienced
in fitting barrels and have the proper reamers and barrel blanks.
If you feel some of this info should not be discussed on the open net
for safety or other reasons, please respond via e-mail.
Isabell Fuhrmann
Finally I come to answer Dino... sorry for the delay. The subject indeed
interests me.
On 29 Nov 1996, Dino V. Germano wrote:
# could do what I did and have a Carcano rebarreled to it. The head and rim
# size are damn close, and 7.62X39 feeds fine out of the issue clips. I paid
# $109.45 to have a folding spike bayonet Carcano carbine rebarreled by
# Multi-Standared M-S, Rt.1, Box 139, Butternut WI 54514.
What I wonder about is that you not seem to experience feeding problems.
I do know that in spite of the not exactly confidence-inspiring long
feeding way and the miniature "ramp", my Carcani feed absolutely
perfect even when held upside-down while cycling (always a good test when
checking a customized rifle which is also to be used for field work), but
what about the short stubby 7,62 x 39 cartridges - have you never
experienced feeding problems ?
# re-enacting, but it shoots ball just fine.
Could you give me any realistic idea about 10-shot groups at 100 meters
(or yards) ? Of course, the open sights hamper accurate shooting... but
still, I am curious.
Thanks, Alexander Eichener
c...@oink.rhein.de
Dino V. Germano
In article <57qs5o$m...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, barr...@rapidnet.com (Gale
Barrows) wrote:
# What had to be done to this rifle to make it feed? I would think the
# difference in cartridge length might give problems. I have several
# Carcano rifles stacked in the corners with bad barrels or bad other
# stuff and this might be a way to use one or two up. I am experienced
# in fitting barrels and have the proper reamers and barrel blanks.
#
# If you feel some of this info should not be discussed on the open net
# for safety or other reasons, please respond via e-mail.
I also have a Carcano carbine that is re-barreled to 7.62X39. I had it
done for WWII reenacting as an Italian Bersagliari. ComBlock blanks are
louder and brighter than ball ammo. My Carcano still looks military,
complete with folding spike bayonet.
Mine was done by M-S, Multi-Standard in Butternut WI, about five years
ago using a P-14 barrel. Do not know if they are still around.
The only mod made to improve feeding was a small (about 1/4") tab
welded to form a feed-ramp at the front of the magazine well. If you use a
smooth, fast bolt manipulation, feeding is fine with ball, O.K. with
blanks. The better the clip, the better the feeding. The problem is not
one of the 7.62X39 being too short, but of having too much side-wall
taper, causing some binding in the clip.
The action is over-strength according to most of the books I have read.
So, how much to do one up? Keeping the millitary sights, stocks, etc. I
have a spare barreled action as well.
Dino in Reno
P.S. Gale, I am looking for one of the carbines that did not have the
folding spike bayonet, but rather the removable folding blade type, or for
the stock fittings for one. Got any?
Roger Pattee
On 29 Nov 1996 10:29:08 -0500, ki...@dialnet.net (Rick Greninger)
wrote:
#Walt,
#In addition to your list, Interarms Mini Mark X were chambered for the 7.62 x 39.
#The rifles were built in the former Yugoslavia on the Mauser design.
#Wish I could have bought one before imports were resricted, but I was able to obtain
#Rugers 77/II, excellent firearm although I've never been too crazy about Ruger's
#synthetic stocks!
#Good shootin'
#Rick
#
#
================================================================
Just a note of caution to anyone who owns the Ruger chambered in 7.62
x 39 (as I do).
In speaking with Dr. Dater of GemTech, use caution when you use steel
cased ammo, it apparently errodes the chamber severely. I have never
used the surplus but have had excellent results with the PMC
reloadable brass cased ammo, and use it with Winchester softpoints.
So far, have been only averaging slightly over 1 inch, but never more
then 1.5 in 100 yd groupings.
All in all, I really enjoy shooting my Ruger, and I sought one after I
had sold all of mine in stock.
I got a copy of GunList, found a dealer who had one, and purchased it
(got it from a dealer in Minnesota, for what its worth).
Roger A. Pattee
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Dennis Kroh
Gale Barrows wrote:
#
# Dennis Kroh <kr...@juno.com> wrote:
#
# ## #
# ## # Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
# ##
# #Well, I have one for sale.
#
# #It is a custom rifle built on a Carcano action with a new (Douglas?)
# #barrel in 7.62x39. It uses standard Carcano clips (fits the M43 just
# #fine) and so holds six rounds. It has a parkerized finish and a lovely
# #FAJEN stock of fiddleback maple. The rear sight is of the elevator
# #type, the front sight dovetailed in the barrel.
#
# #There was a LOT of work put into this rifle, and it sure is fun to shoot
# #(and pretty accurate, as well). I'm asking $250 including shipping if
# #anyone is interested.
#
# #Dennis Kroh, Empire Arms
#
# difference in cartridge length might give problems. I have several
# Carcano rifles stacked in the corners with bad barrels or bad other
# stuff and this might be a way to use one or two up. I am experienced
# in fitting barrels and have the proper reamers and barrel blanks.
#
# If you feel some of this info should not be discussed on the open net
# for safety or other reasons, please respond via e-mail.
I have no problems with that.
In my rifles case there has been a 1" (approx) ramp made (and
sweated-in) to guide the round to the chamber. I can't really describe
it well because I didn't do the work!
Dennis Kroh, Empire Arms
Peter Stadlmaier
Hi !
Isabell Fuhrmann <ifuh...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
#On 27 Nov 1996, Ordinary_Guy wrote:
## #Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
##
## 2. One or more of the Chinese firearms importers brought in either
## Mausers or M91s chambered in 7.62x39mm M43. Sorry I don't remember
## which, but frankly I don't care.
#There was also an Arisaka carbine re-chambered by the Chinese to 7,62 x 39.
#Looked like an awfully nice little gun.
Is it available in Germany ?
In Austria, there is a *very* special weapon available now:
the "RG 96", a AKM, converted to a straight-pull repeating gun (has
something to do with our strange gun laws). It comes with gimmicks
like a mounting for a Draganov-scope, folding stock and drum-mag.
Peter
Michael Canavatchel
#
The Nagant 91/30 is chambered for 7.62 X 39. A friend of mine just
picked one up (Sniper version 91/30PU) looked good and hope I get to
shoot it! :)
<MC>
Peter Stadlmaier
s...@tvfa2.tvfa.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Stadlmaier) wrote:
#In Austria, there is a *very* special weapon available now:
#the "RG 96"
^^^^^
#, a AKM, converted to a straight-pull repeating gun (has
#something to do with our strange gun laws). It comes with gimmicks
#like a mounting for a Draganov-scope, folding stock and drum-mag.
Ooops, sorry, the correct name is "R 94".
Peter
Dennis Kroh
Michael Canavatchel wrote:
#
# #
# ##Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
#
WRONG! The 91/30 is chambered for the 7.62x54R cartridge, a completely
different (and certainly non-interchangable) animal.
# A friend of mine just picked one up (Sniper version 91/30PU)
# looked good and hope I get to shoot it! :)
#
I just hope you don't try to shoot 7.62x39 in it!
Dennis Kroh, Empire Arms
Mack Peirson
# # #jer...@maxinet.com (Jerome Kielley) wrote:
# # #
# # ##Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39??
Ruger made a small run of the Model 77 in that caliber a couple of years
ago. About a year back, I saw a stainless steel model with composite stock
for sale on the used rack of one of the major gun stores in Houston.
Thought it was interesting, but wondered why anyone would want a 7.62x39 in
a rifle that is also available in more useful calibers, such as .270, .308,
30-06, etc.
Mack Peirson
Ordinary_Guy
"Mack Peirson" <ma...@concentric.net> wrote:
#Ruger made a small run of the Model 77 in that caliber a couple of years
#ago.
For Davidson's, the distributor.
#Thought it was interesting, but wondered why anyone would want a 7.62x39 in
#a rifle that is also available in more useful calibers, such as .270, .308,
#30-06, etc.
Novelty.
Regards,
Walt
Ruger Collectors' Association #97
Byron
eliz...@aol.com wrote:
#
# Ruger Model 77's in 7.62x39mm. They were stainless steel, w/o sights and
# had the Ruger style black fiberglass stock. Maybe one of the Ruger
Davidson's
Byron
Bray Haven
I believe Sako made one
Greg S.
Don Kenny
In <58ne3m$1...@xring.cs.umd.edu> "Mack Peirson" <ma...@concentric.net>
writes:
## # #jer...@maxinet.com (Jerome Kielley) wrote:
## # ##Does anyone know of a bolt action rifle that chambers 7.62x39?
#
#Ruger made a small run of the Model 77 in that caliber
#that is also available in more useful calibers, such as .270, .308
Davidson's was closing out their Ruger stainless/synthetic 77's in
7.62x39 a couple years ago, so I ordered one just because the ammo is
so inexpensive (plus a new rifle was only $320). I really didn't
"need" it, since I have so many other rifles. Anyway, I cut and
recrowned the barrel back to 18", gave it a trigger job, and added a
Leupold 2.5X scope. It has become a real Fun Shooter! Ammo is
available by the cheap caseload, so I don't need to reload for the
thing (it's not another mouth to feed). I don't even bother saving any
empty brass.
I especially like bringing it to the range when I introduce
non-shooters to our sport, since it makes a nice step "up" from a 22LR
(it kicks very little and makes big holes -- and people seem to like
that). Accuracy is good enough (about 2.5 inches with chintzy-grade
Commie-surplus).
So as a "trainer/plinker", I feel a 7.62x39 bolt action makes a lot of
sense in any rifle collection. While a 223 could certainly "shoehorn"
itself into the same category (and a full-house 308 is more practical
from an all-around standpoint), I think the 30 Russian cartridge has
some definite utility.
Also note that many short-action surplus rifles can be easily
rebarreled to 7.62x39 -- while some of the old actions can't hanlde 308
pressures anyway. So if you can't find a Ruger or Mark-X mini-Mauser
in 7.62x39, one can be built easy enough.
Cheers
- Don Kenny (dke...@ix.netcom.com)
Shooting and Reloading For Nearly 40 Years
"Society Is Safer When Criminals Don't Know Who's Armed"
Isabell Fuhrmann
On 12 Dec 1996, Bray Haven wrote:
# I believe Sako made one
I have occasionally seen this stated in this thread. However, one
Scandinavian source indicated that Tikka was the manufacturer, and
as far as now, I have not seen an exact model denomination. Could
anyone here kindly help out with details ?
Regards,
Alexander Eichener
c...@oink.rhein.de
NJgunman
I think that someone once told me that they saw some riflein this caliber
at Navy Arms in Ridgefield, NJ. Try them at 201-945-2500.
Good luck!
Rick
Randy Rick
#I have occasionally seen this stated in this thread. However, one
#Scandinavian source indicated that Tikka was the manufacturer, and
#as far as now, I have not seen an exact model denomination. Could
#anyone here kindly help out with details ?
#Alexander Eichener
Alexander,
The following was advertised in the last issue of Gun List (Dec 27,
1996):
SAKO, A-11 Mannlicher, 7.62x39
I'm not familiar with the SAKO models, so don't know if the A-11 is
sufficient to identify it.
Randy Rick
Dennis Kroh
NJgunman wrote:
> ...
True. These were Japanese Arisakas rechambered by the Chinese to the
7.62x39 round. I heard of these whilst in RVN, but never saw ant.
Navy Arms offered these in one of their flyers, but were SOLD OUT before
the flyers actually arrived... and so I have zilch yet again!
Dennis Kroh, Empire Arms