What is 38 S&W ctg. ???
Michael
This handgun I came into says on the barrel :
Colt Police Positive Special
38 Colt N P - 38 S&W CTG
A 38 special ctg. is to long for it , but I found a box of 38 S&W
that fit it , strange but it shoots nice .
Any info on this weapon would be appreciated such as age, value ,etc.
Thank you in advance .
Michael
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In article <4pna8a$e...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, Michael <mik...@teleport.com> wrote:
#This handgun I came into says on the barrel :
#
#Colt Police Positive Special
#38 Colt N P - 38 S&W CTG
#
#A 38 special ctg. is to long for it , but I found a box of 38 S&W
#that fit it , strange but it shoots nice .
#
#Any info on this weapon would be appreciated such as age, value ,etc.
#Thank you in advance .
#
#
# Michael
As you've already discovered, the 38S&W is a bit shorter and larger
diameter than the .38 Spl case. The .38S&W is a little older round,
if memory serves, lower powered than the average .38spl, and I think
maybe typically loaded down because of some very old revolvers
chambered to fire this round.
The first ammo I ever bought was 38S&W by mistake, when I found it
wouldn't chamber in my old man's Colt Detective Special.
I don't know about the age/value part, but it sounds like you have
a nice shooter. Unless it's in spectacular condition, however, I
think there were probably a lot of these made and wouldn't expect
it to have collector value. Someone else here will probably comment.
Tom Grover - tgr...@dashi.us.dell.com
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Doug Owen
Michael (mik...@teleport.com) wrote:
: This handgun I came into says on the barrel :
:
: Colt Police Positive Special
: 38 Colt N P - 38 S&W CTG
: A 38 special ctg. is to long for it , but I found a box of 38 S&W
: that fit it , strange but it shoots nice .
The .38 spl is also a bit too small in diameter, too. Some of these
types of guns (mostly S&W) were "converted" to fire the more
common/popular .38 spl by reaming the cylinders. While considered safe
with modest loads, they make a mess of the brass (a step at the mouth and
nasty bulge to the web) on firing, and offer poor accuracy and leading
(bore oversize). This was the standard Brit Military round (replacing
the .455 Web), where it is known as .38/200 (standard 200 grain bullet).
A bunch of these guns went over there on Lend/lease with WWII.
The .38 New Police was Colt's "one upsmanship" on Smith, quite common in
years past. The round was identical ballistically but offered a flat
point on the lead bullet, highly promoted in the day. The round died, of
course. .38 S&W is actually a fun round. Fun in Black Powder, too..
: Any info on this weapon would be appreciated such as age, value ,etc.
: Thank you in advance .
Police Positive Specials were made by Colt from 1907 to 1973 in .32-20,
.32 New Police (like .32 S&W long but with a flat point).38 NP, or .38
spl. 4, 5 or 6 inch barrels. 50% guns list at $175. Good shooters, IME.
Doug Owen
Ebattey
In article <4pna8a$e...@xring.cs.umd.edu>, mik...@teleport.com says...
#
#This handgun I came into says on the barrel :
#
#Colt Police Positive Special
#38 Colt N P - 38 S&W CTG
#
#A 38 special ctg. is to long for it , but I found a box of 38 S&W
#that fit it , strange but it shoots nice .
#
#Any info on this weapon would be appreciated such as age, value ,etc.
#Thank you in advance .
#
Brittish Commonwealth contries used it, they (as Brittain) were partial to the
38S&W round which as you note is much shorter than the .38 special (as well as
being rimmed).
I would imagine there may be a book that lists by serial number who
recieved/issued Police Positives, but I do not own it or have seen it.
There may well be other makings on the pistol that will identify what Police
Department used it, such as RHKP (Royal Hong Hong Police), etc..
Earl
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# # Michael
#
# As you've already discovered, the 38S&W is a bit shorter and larger
# diameter than the .38 Spl case. The .38S&W is a little older round,
# if memory serves, lower powered than the average .38spl, and I think
# maybe typically loaded down because of some very old revolvers
# chambered to fire this round.
#
# The first ammo I ever bought was 38S&W by mistake, when I found it
# wouldn't chamber in my old man's Colt Detective Special.
#
# I don't know about the age/value part, but it sounds like you have
# a nice shooter. Unless it's in spectacular condition, however, I
# think there were probably a lot of these made and wouldn't expect
# it to have collector value. Someone else here will probably comment.
Tom :
I received some email to the effect that this handgun was circa 1917
(cyd) originaly and the markings on it identify it as RHKP , Royal
Hong Kong Police , (Earl) it is in excellent condition so I guess
I'll keep it .
Thank all of you for your input .
Michael
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