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Robin Schoenherr

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Jan 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/26/98
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Can anyone provide information about and suppliers of smoke bushes and
smoke trees?

DGholston

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Jan 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/26/98
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>Can anyone provide information about and suppliers of smoke bushes and smoke
trees?<

There are several things called Smoke Bush or Smoke Tree. What exactly are
inquiring about?

Don Gholston

Robin Schoenherr

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Jan 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/26/98
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The latin name which I have been able to come up with is continus
goggygria. I believe there are several different colors. Also, I have
heard that it is possible that you need both male and female plants to
have blooms. Any information about this? Thanks.

Bichenos

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Jan 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/27/98
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>Can anyone provide information about and suppliers of smoke bushes and
>smoke trees?

I think I've seen them in Gurney's
Kara

jason quick

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Jan 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/27/98
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Robin Schoenherr wrote:
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> Can anyone provide information about and suppliers of smoke bushes
> and smoke trees?

Cannabis sativa, a member of the...oh, wrong smoke bush.

Jason, feeling particularly silly tonight
Remove "no-bs" to reply

Sonnie

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Jan 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/27/98
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Robin Schoenherr <nibo...@webtv.net> wrote in article
<6aipj2$4mf$1...@newsd-133.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...


> Can anyone provide information about and suppliers of smoke bushes and
> smoke trees?
>

Available from Mellinger's, among others. Phone 1-800-321-7444. I got 3
of them last year from another source, don't remember who. Got 3 bare-root
"sticks" - planted all three together in a 5 gal nursery pot. They did
well and put on good growth. This year I'll separate them and plant in the
ground. AKA cotinus obovatus.


DGholston

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Jan 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/27/98
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The name is Cotinus coggygria (Rhus cotinus) and does not come in male and
female speeds as far as I know. Cultivars, 'Purpureus' and 'Royal Purple' have
purple leaves. The American smoke tree is C. obovatus. And Dalea spinosa is
also knows as Smoke Tree, a useful specimen for desert gardens.

Don Gholston

Polly

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Jan 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/27/98
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In article <6ajmn7$6a8$1...@newsd-134.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
nibo...@webtv.net (Robin Schoenherr) wrote:

>The latin name which I have been able to come up with is continus
>goggygria. I believe there are several different colors. Also, I have
>heard that it is possible that you need both male and female plants to

>have blooms. Any information about this? Thanks.

Hi Robin,

A few facts of life are in order here: pollen from boy flower + egg from
girl flower= fruit. Blossoms are merely the enticement to the pollinator
to facillitate the transfer of the pollen to the carpel. Species that are
wind pollinated (like grasses) don't need fancy flowers, some species that
are pollinated by beetles( like the wild gingers- Asarums) have flowers
that smell of carrion-there are many different strategies to acheive
pollination. There may be a distinct difference between male and female
flowers of dioecious plants in the qualities that we humans want to see in
flowers; the male catkins of Garrya elliptica are much showier than those
of the female, and that may mean that plants of only one sex are promoted
in the industry.

If plants are not vegetatively cloned but raised from seed, and not grown
on enough to flower and thereby disclose what sex they are before they are
offered for sale, you run the risk of purchasing a plant that will not
give you the effect you wish. You may, for instance end up with a whole
lot of male hollies, or all females with no consort. Dioecious plants will
flower ( like people) whether or not there is a partner......... hope
springs eternal.

Polly M. Law

Upstate NY/Z5
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Kate Coombs

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Feb 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/1/98
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Cotinus coggygria - common Smoketree or Smokebush
Zones 5 to 8. Size 10 to 15 feet high and the same wide. There are
probably about a dozen cultivars
Cotinus obovatus - American Smoketree
20 to 30 feet tall, beautiful fall color from yellow to orange to red to
purple. Likes full sun but have seen them growing as understory trees too.
I bought mine at a local nursery. Wayside Gardens probably has them but
there are probably better prices somewhere else.

JFR

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Feb 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/6/98
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What does dioecious mean?

So flowers can be male or female or both? Plants can have one or the
other sexes and some both?

Thanks in advance for the lecture.

John R>

In <pmlaw-27019...@port33.ulster.net> pm...@ulster.net (Polly )
writes:

MMMavocado

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Feb 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/6/98
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John,

Most plants have "perfect" flowers, which means they have both male and female
parts in the same flower, and they produce both pollen and seeds.

Some plants separate the sexes into separate flowers, but still on the same
plant. Corn is a good example -- male tassles and female "ears." Those plants
are "monoecious."

Still other plants bear female-only flowers on one plant, and male-only flowers
on a different plant. These are "dioecious." Some of the hollies and some
palms (dates) would be good examples.


Malcolm M. Manners, Ph.D.
Chairman, Department of
Citrus and Environmental Horticulture
Florida Southern College, Lakeland, FL
Visit my website: http://members.aol.com/mmmavocado/MMMspage.html

cmb

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Feb 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/8/98
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Dioecious means "having unisexual flowers, each sex confined to a
separate plant." From Michael Dirr's Manual of Woody Landscape Plants

marcia coburn

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Feb 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/8/98
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Heronswood, Forest Farm, and Carroll Gardens all have them at better
prices.

Kate Hunter

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Feb 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/10/98
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I'd highly recommend the Cotinus called 'Velvet Cloak'. It has the
darkest leaves. Really gorgeous in my pinky-red bed. I am pretty
sure I saw it in Heronswood.

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Kate Hunter
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Gardening in East Central Illinois
Zone 5b

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