The Victory Garden
Jack Wesolowski
was called "Crockett's Victory Garden"? I think it's lousy that she
gets to use up 5-10 minutes of valuable time on a gardening program just
to show her recipes. If she must show her fat ass on TV, why doesn't
her old man set her up with her own cooking show?
Jessie
Really! I don't mind it so much when she's cooking veggies,
but that year where she was globe-trotting around the world
collecting fish recipes really got my goat. I don't think
she was there when Crockett was, but I was just a "wee
bairn" (garden-wise) at the time and didn't really pay that
much attention.
Roger should run her through the chipper-shredder and add
her to the compost heap!
--
Jessie
New York City
j e s 2 2 at columbia dot edu
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Prof. Zooks
>
> Does anyone remember whether Marian Morash appeared on this show when it
> was called "Crockett's Victory Garden"? I think it's lousy that she
> gets to use up 5-10 minutes of valuable time on a gardening program just
> to show her recipes. If she must show her fat ass on TV, why doesn't
> her old man set her up with her own cooking show?
I don't recall her with Jim Crockett. If memory serves, he did a solo
most of the time with a guest appearance by Peter Seabrook on rare
occasions. I also miss the emphasis on vegetable gardens and the value
of the harvest. Don't miss the emphasis on poisons though...
Regards,
Prof. Zooks
Cheryl + Rich Isaak
> Does anyone remember whether Marian Morash appeared on this show when it
> was called "Crockett's Victory Garden"? I think it's lousy that she
> gets to use up 5-10 minutes of valuable time on a gardening program just
> to show her recipes. If she must show her fat ass on TV, why doesn't
> her old man set her up with her own cooking show?
I don't know - sometimes the recipes are interesting - what you can do with
what is fresh out of
the garden. I have adapted more than one to something my family might eat.
Maid Marian (as she is know in our house or Andy Rooney's sister) did have
a cooking show at one time.
I will say I like the less poisons/more organic approach to the show and am
glad that the vegetable garden is not the whole show anymore. I am a
perennial gardener and buy my fresh stuff at local truck farms to help keep
the local farmers going.
Cheryl
T009
Steve Gant
can still see Jim Crockett pulling up giant leeks and parsnips. It was truly
sad to see him losing the battle against cancer, but he never lost his
enthusiasm for what he loved.
I believe Crockett's expertise and wholesome personality carried the show
alone. No need to go across the country or around the world to see other
gardens. The show's producer seems to think he needs to maintain our
interests with short segments and jaunts.
I would bet if Crockett was still here, he'd be doing 30 minutes on raising
vegetables and starting bulbs with no other help. And I'd be watching the
show.
Steve
dhme...@my-dejanews.com
wesol...@freewwweb.com wrote:
> Does anyone remember whether Marian Morash appeared on this show when it
> was called "Crockett's Victory Garden"? I think it's lousy that she
> gets to use up 5-10 minutes of valuable time on a gardening program just
> to show her recipes. If she must show her fat ass on TV, why doesn't
> her old man set her up with her own cooking show?
>
Everything she makes has butter, heavy cream or some other high calorie or
fattening items. I would not mind if she would just cut out the unhealthy
crap she puts with the fresh veggies!
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Jane Mahlig
>
>Does anyone remember whether Marian Morash appeared on this show when
it
>was called "Crockett's Victory Garden"?
Not that I remember - it was usually just Jim Crockett, in either the
garden or the greenhouse. I don't even remember Jim doing a lot of
traveling to other countries, outside of Holland in the spring for
tulips and an occasional jaunt over to visit Peter Seabrooke in England.
If she must show her fat ass on TV, why doesn't
>her old man set her up with her own cooking show?
Actually, she sort of did - she was an assistant to Julia Child on
Julia's original PBS cooking show back in the 70's, which I believe was
also produced or directed or something by husband Russell.
--
Jane
Zone 6
J Aversa
because I always shut it off!
Judy
Jessie <je...@columbia.edu> wrote:
> Jack Wesolowski wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone remember whether Marian Morash appeared on this show when it
> > was called "Crockett's Victory Garden"? I think it's lousy that she
> > gets to use up 5-10 minutes of valuable time on a gardening program just
> > to show her recipes. If she must show her fat ass on TV, why doesn't
> > her old man set her up with her own cooking show?
>
> Really! I don't mind it so much when she's cooking veggies,
> but that year where she was globe-trotting around the world
> collecting fish recipes really got my goat. I don't think
> she was there when Crockett was, but I was just a "wee
> bairn" (garden-wise) at the time and didn't really pay that
> much attention.
>
> Roger should run her through the chipper-shredder and add
> her to the compost heap!
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m&v
Just watch the classic episodes on HGTV, where they cut out the cooking
segments, and replace them with commercials. Anything is better than
Marion Morash. If it werent for her husbands clout, all her artery
clogging foods would never make the show.
Victoria
Sheryl Nance-Durst
Must be your cable system. I tape the morning airing of Victory
Garden on HGTV every day. Unfortunately, "Chef Marion" is still there.
Sheryl Nance-Durst
sher...@sound.net
Virginia E Hench
: Just watch the classic episodes on HGTV, where they cut out the cooking
: segments, and replace them with commercials. Anything is better than
: Marion Morash. If it werent for her husbands clout, all her artery
: clogging foods would never make the show
If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
Aloha, Ginny.
Andrea Ulliman
ingredients!
It's just this American paranoia of "fat" - all these artificial fat-free,
sodium-free, cholesterol-free ... products. You think thiese things pumped up
with all kinds of chemical ingredients are healthy?
I grew up on good old fashioned cooking with 'fattening items', like most
other Germans and there aren't as close as many fat people there compared to
the US, where everybody seems to buy fat free - How come??
I brought a bottle of "You can't believe it's not butter"-spray home to
Germany and really - nobody would believe :) Most of my friends thought it's
some 'fun' product...
But thats off topic I think, and btw, I don't even know this person you are
talking about in this thread :-)
Andrea
dhme...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <35DF31...@freewwweb.com>,
> wesol...@freewwweb.com wrote:
> > Does anyone remember whether Marian Morash appeared on this show when it
> > was called "Crockett's Victory Garden"? I think it's lousy that she
> > gets to use up 5-10 minutes of valuable time on a gardening program just
> > to show her recipes. If she must show her fat ass on TV, why doesn't
> > her old man set her up with her own cooking show?
> >
>
Ann
> If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
Aw, you think he's awful? I think he's great, nice and weird, just
like me ;->
Ann
Gardening in Zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
Fix the from: 9 is the spam trap!
el...@spam.free.at.last
In article <35E4E174...@onthewave.com>,
Andrea Ulliman <cosmi...@onthewave.com> wrote:
>What is bad about butter and cream in food?????? Those are my favourite
>ingredients!
>It's just this American paranoia of "fat" - all these artificial fat-free,
>sodium-free, cholesterol-free ... products. You think thiese things pumped up
>with all kinds of chemical ingredients are healthy?
>I grew up on good old fashioned cooking with 'fattening items', like most
>other Germans and there aren't as close as many fat people there compared to
>the US, where everybody seems to buy fat free - How come??
>
>I brought a bottle of "You can't believe it's not butter"-spray home to
>Germany and really - nobody would believe :) Most of my friends thought it's
>some 'fun' product...
>
>But thats off topic I think, and btw, I don't even know this person you are
>talking about in this thread :-)
I agree with you 100%, American tho I may be. ;)
My own hypothesis is that all this nonsense was just a brilliant
business decision: how to remove all the butterfat from a product
and *raise* the price! ;)
P.S. The very first thing I learned to say in German when I started
traveling in Europe in the 1960s was 'Mit Schlag'. ;)
m&v
writes:
>Must be your cable system. I tape the morning airing of Victory
>Garden on HGTV every day. Unfortunately, "Chef Marion" is still
there.
>
>Sheryl Nance-Durst
>sher...@sound.net
Oh, maybe she is still on some of the episodes. I saw that too.
V
m&v
writes:
>
> If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
>
> Aloha, Ginny.
Ah, he's not that bad. He is not pretentious. He is really who he is.
I don't mind him that much. He is the science editor of Horticulture
Magazine...in case you didn't know.
V
m&v
and death due to heart disease on the planet. Nuff said.
In <35E4E174...@onthewave.com> Andrea Ulliman
<cosmi...@onthewave.com> writes:
>
>What is bad about butter and cream in food?????? Those are my
favourite
>ingredients!
>It's just this American paranoia of "fat" - all these artificial
fat-free,
>sodium-free, cholesterol-free ... products. You think thiese things
pumped up
>with all kinds of chemical ingredients are healthy?
>I grew up on good old fashioned cooking with 'fattening items', like
most
>other Germans and there aren't as close as many fat people there
compared to
>the US, where everybody seems to buy fat free - How come??
>
>I brought a bottle of "You can't believe it's not butter"-spray home
to
>Germany and really - nobody would believe :) Most of my friends
thought it's
>some 'fun' product...
>
>But thats off topic I think, and btw, I don't even know this person
you are
>talking about in this thread :-)
>
Cheryl + Rich Isaak
wrote:
I adore Roger, my husband teases me that he is my ideal man. His TV
personality is nearly identical to the one you get reading his books.
Thoughtful, intelligent (he has a PhD - ant research) and very down to
earth. I want to meet him someday.
Cheryl
James A Bertilson
Andrea Ulliman <cosmi...@onthewave.com> writes:
>What is bad about butter and cream in food?????? Those are my favourite
>ingredients!
peppers she ruins her cooking with. Plenty of dishes start out so promising
until she starts adding peppers, yuck.
ps. she uses too much black pepper also.
Thomas Cagle
interesting.
Tom
Vimala Siddalingaiah
love that lady who cooks the grown veggies.
Ann (ann...@thecia.net) wrote:
: he...@Hawaii.Edu (Virginia E Hench) expounded:
: > If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
: Aw, you think he's awful? I think he's great, nice and weird, just
Prof. Zooks
>
> Well, us Americans also have the highest occurance of heart disease,
> and death due to heart disease on the planet. Nuff said.
> >
have very high heart disease rates, countries that use mostly butter are
neutral on heart disease and those that use olive oil have a much lower
rate. France has a much lower rate of heart disease than the U.S., but
they use a great deal more cream and butter! I don't really think
natural stuff is the culprit. Seems to me that 20 years after a new
synthetic is introduced as healthy into the American diet, we have a big
upsurge in disease...
Regards,
Prof. Zooks
el...@spam.free.at.last
Or maybe we've just had a 'downsurge' in death by other things (flu,
polio, TB, etc.). The fatality rate is 100% universally, after all...
phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net
food as decided by the great "them", I have returned to eggs, butter, and bacon.
As a child, I drank whole milk from Guernseys, but a lifetime of "healthy" habits
have left me drinking 1% milk now....
Andrea Ulliman wrote:
> What is bad about butter and cream in food?????? Those are my favourite
> ingredients!
> It's just this American paranoia of "fat" - all these artificial fat-free,
> sodium-free, cholesterol-free ... products. You think thiese things pumped up
> with all kinds of chemical ingredients are healthy?
> I grew up on good old fashioned cooking with 'fattening items', like most
> other Germans and there aren't as close as many fat people there compared to
> the US, where everybody seems to buy fat free - How come??
>
Don Chapman
phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net wrote in article
<35E5C7FB...@pop.phnx.uswest.net>...
> I'm with you, Andrea. After years of trying to keep up with the latest
fads in
> food as decided by the great "them", I have returned to eggs, butter, and
bacon.
> As a child, I drank whole milk from Guernseys, but a lifetime of
"healthy" habits
> have left me drinking 1% milk now....
At our farm in the Willamette Valley of Oregon, we had Holsteins as our
high-production dairy cows, but a Jersey cow for our family milk. What a
difference in flavor!
Now, like you, my taste buds regard the watery 2% stuff as "normal".
Not sure this is progress. One of these days, I think I'll cook up some
fried chicken in lard, drizzle bacon drippings over green beans, find some
full-strength Jersey milk, and end up with a bowl of real ice cream for a
little "comfort meal". (I just heard an artery scream)
--
Don Chapman <d...@bio-organics.com>
Bio/Organics Supply Center
3200 Corte Malpaso, #107
Camarillo CA 93012 (Near ocean N. of LA)
<http://www.bio-organics.com>
Debbie O'Donnell
>In article <6s3g82$m...@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>, ani...@ix.netcom.com(m&v)
>wrote:
>
>> In <6s1urq$o...@news.Hawaii.Edu> he...@Hawaii.Edu (Virginia E Hench)
>> writes:
>>
>> >
>> > If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
>> >
Albert Fiantaca
Just remember the old Jim Crocket episodes when they taught you about
preparing your garden and growing your crops instead of scenic tours of
gardens of the world. If I wanted that, I could watch a travelogue. Also
for those of you who follow This Old House, the same tendency exists.
They have changed from a "how to" to an "isn't this stylish" show. I
still watch them but frequently turn them off out of boredom.
Al, Boston, MA
Ann wrote:
> he...@Hawaii.Edu (Virginia E Hench) expounded:
>
> > If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
>
Gary Cooper
On 27 Aug 1998, m&v wrote:
> Well, us Americans also have the highest occurance of heart disease,
> and death due to heart disease on the planet. Nuff said.
>
My grandmother, who wasn't the least bit fat, just died of clogged
arteries. Fat-free diets are looking better all the time.
Gary
>
> In <35E4E174...@onthewave.com> Andrea Ulliman
Bud
>of
>English gardens, Aussie gardens, etc. - what does that
have to do
> with
>me?)
Ah, so true. Give me more veggie garden, I'd be more
happy. I used to watch it religously, not any more. The
garden contest, or whatever, at the end of the year, I
vote no.
>. . . .and there is no such thing as too much black
>pepper ;-)
>
>N.
Yep.
Bud
Ann
>m&v wrote:
>>
>> Well, us Americans also have the highest occurance of heart disease,
>> and death due to heart disease on the planet. Nuff said.
>> >
>Studies have shown that countries that use larges amounts of margarine
>have very high heart disease rates, countries that use mostly butter are
>neutral on heart disease and those that use olive oil have a much lower
>rate. France has a much lower rate of heart disease than the U.S., but
>they use a great deal more cream and butter! I don't really think
>natural stuff is the culprit. Seems to me that 20 years after a new
>synthetic is introduced as healthy into the American diet, we have a big
>upsurge in disease...
Actually, I don't think it the butter or fat or anything like that,
it's the fact that people just don't move. They don't work as hard as
they used to, most seem to avoid any strenuous work or exercise at
all! There are people here in this country (the Mennonites come to
mind) who eat a very high fat content in their diet, but because of
the physical work they do to lead their lives, they are healty. Go
ahead and eat your butter, but move a bit afterwards so it doesn't all
settle in your veins! <G>
As a disclaimer, I'm a racewalker 3-4 miles a day, I do try to eat
right, but I had eggs, bacon, homefries and toast for supper. Hmm,
hmm, good!
Jessie
term) the schedule here and I keep missing the show. I
certainly will miss her.
Speaking of which, no one's run "Gardening Naturally" here
for a while--are Coleman and Damrosch still taping this?
Ah! NYC--where you can get nearly 24 hours of house
fixer-uppers (in a city of apartments) but darn little
garden programming!! #*@%!!!
Debbie O'Donnell wrote:
>
> Won't we miss Lucinda Mayes from Victory Garden South.
> is...@tiac.net (Cheryl + Rich Isaak) wrote:
>
> >In article <6s3g82$m...@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>, ani...@ix.netcom.com(m&v)
> >wrote:
> >
> >> In <6s1urq$o...@news.Hawaii.Edu> he...@Hawaii.Edu (Virginia E Hench)
> >> writes:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
> >> >
> >> > Aloha, Ginny.
> >>
> >> Ah, he's not that bad. He is not pretentious. He is really who he is.
> >> I don't mind him that much. He is the science editor of Horticulture
> >> Magazine...in case you didn't know.
> >>
> >> V
> >
> >I adore Roger, my husband teases me that he is my ideal man. His TV
> >personality is nearly identical to the one you get reading his books.
> >Thoughtful, intelligent (he has a PhD - ant research) and very down to
> >earth. I want to meet him someday.
> >
> >Cheryl
--
Jessie
New York City
j e s 2 2 at columbia dot edu
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Jessie
>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> >It's not the butter and cream that bother me as much as though awfull tasting
> >peppers she ruins her cooking with. Plenty of dishes start out so promising
> >until she starts adding peppers, yuck.
> >
> >ps. she uses too much black pepper also.
> >
>
> English gardens, Aussie gardens, etc. - what does that have to do with
> 'different' recipes; the butter/fat/cream she uses is very little,
> relatively speaking; and there is no such thing as too much black
> pepper ;-)
>
The point, IMHO, is that the name of the show is Victory
*Garden*, not Victory *Kitchen* and I really wish she'd get
her own show. Besides, I like seeing gardens from around
the world, specially with Seabrook. It's more OT than Maid
Marian's fish dishes!
Jack Wesolowski
>
> "Prof. Zooks" <PZO...@prodigy.net> expounded:
>
> >m&v wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, us Americans also have the highest occurance of heart disease,
> >> and death due to heart disease on the planet. Nuff said.
> >> >
> >Studies have shown that countries that use larges amounts of margarine
SNIP
>>
> Actually, I don't think it the butter or fat or anything like that,
> it's the fact that people just don't move.
SNIP
>
> As a disclaimer, I'm a racewalker 3-4 miles a day, I do try to eat
> right, but I had eggs, bacon, homefries and toast for supper. Hmm,
> hmm, good!
>
> Ann
Gawd almighty! What have I done?? I started this thread and it has
evolved/devolved into a discussion of diet/nutrition and fitness. All
I'm saying is that Marian Morash ought to get her fat ass off what I
think is a good gardening show. In fact, I'd like to see an hour of
gardening. Her old man could set her up in her own cooking show.
What's one more cooking show when we've already got about 500 of 'em?
At least we'd have a 1/2 hr. devoted to gardening.
m&v
(Debbie O'Donnell) writes:
>
>Won't we miss Lucinda Mayes from Victory Garden South.
Why, is she going somewhere? Or are you being facetious?
V
m&v
writes:
>Lucinda's leaving?! Oh, no! PBS keeps munging (the polite
>term) the schedule here and I keep missing the show. I
>certainly will miss her.
>
>Speaking of which, no one's run "Gardening Naturally" here
>for a while--are Coleman and Damrosch still taping this?
>
They said the show would be coming back, but they didn't know when.
You can also write to www.johnnyseeds.com and ask them if they heard
anything. Barbara and Elliott are friends with the owners up in Maine.
V
m&v
>
>
>You want to see annoying try watching that show Breaking Ground. That
>lady looks so unnatural when walking, interviewing or.. well... just
>standing there. What's really bad is when other people are talking she
>does this constant "uh huh" thing that drives everyone in the house
>crazy.
>
Sisso is no longer on the show. What you are seeing are re-runs. The
show may not ever be taped again.
V
James A Bertilson
ndo...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (nancy dooley) writes:
>x-no-archive: yes
>
>>It's not the butter and cream that bother me as much as though awfull tasting
>>peppers she ruins her cooking with. Plenty of dishes start out so promising
>>until she starts adding peppers, yuck.
>>
>>ps. she uses too much black pepper also.
>>
>
>I like her. She only takes up 5 minutes. (I dislike VG's tours of
>relatively speaking; and there is no such thing as too much black
>pepper ;-)
>
Not everyone shares your opion, unfortunatly not enough.
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'BABYLON 5', THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION.
Cheryl + Rich Isaak
> Isn't Surprise Gardener the worst. I liked the time they redid the
> backyard of a couple who obviously didn't like to garden- roses
> everywhere. I really liked Gardener's Journal from Canada, but can't
> find it anywhere.
Actually, SG is beyond bad - tasteless and no gardening info and they act like
most viewers are idiots, Before and After, Before and After, Before and After,
Before and After. A trellis out of an old bedspring, please.
I really like Gardening By the Yard and Home Grown Cooking - Paul James is
light-hearted while giving great advice. Anyone else see the HGC on eating
bugs?
Cheryl
Prof. Zooks
>
> On 27 Aug 1998, m&v wrote:
>
> > Well, us Americans also have the highest occurance of heart disease,
> > and death due to heart disease on the planet. Nuff said.
> >
> arteries. Fat-free diets are looking better all the time.
>
> Gary
> >
Bill Gaither, a popular Southern Gospel Singer and music writer is very
big on low fat, fat free, etc..., diets. He just had an angioplasty
(sp?). Don't think fat free is the answer...
Regards,
Prof. Zooks
Morr
fun. Love him!
Virginia E Hench
I wrote:
: > > If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
: > >
: > > Aloha, Ginny.
: >
And someone replied:
: > Ah, he's not that bad. He is not pretentious. He is really who he is.
: > I don't mind him that much. He is the science editor of Horticulture
: > Magazine...in case you didn't know.
Hi - yes, I know who he is, and I don't think he is
pretentious. I do find him annoying to the point that I
will switch to another channel if he is on. It is his
personality that I don't care for. His credentials are fine!
Reasonable people can differ, after all --
Aloha, Ginny :
Jessie
Thanks for the news--I'm reving up my e-mail now. I really
miss those two. Coleman is one of my personal heroes (the
other is a hot, italian-special hoagie, but let's not go
there!).
BAnders778
writes:
>Studies have shown that countries that use larges amounts of margarine
>have very high heart disease rates, countries that use mostly butter are
>neutral on heart disease and those that use olive oil have a much lower
>rate. France has a much lower rate of heart disease than the U.S., but
>they use a great deal more cream and butter! I don't really think
>natural stuff is the culprit. Seems to me that 20 years after a new
>synthetic is introduced as healthy into the American diet, we have a big
>upsurge in disease...
All that red wine and olive oil the French and Italians drink and use
counteract the fats.
Mark & Erika Reichert
I think my wife is scarred for life...
We do heartily enjoy Paul James, despite the sarcasm above. Do you also
feel he hasn't quite found his groove on Home Grown Cooking yet, or not?
His gardening segments on HGC still shine, but somehow his cooking segments
feel a little awkward at times. I don't know if it's the lack of (or
different) music or jokes or antics or what. I guess he's shooting for a
whole different audience. Well, it's usually an interesting show,
nevertheless.
>In article <35E6B1A6...@megsinet.net>, Morr <dgm...@megsinet.net>
wrote:
>
Jim
> m&v wrote:
> >
> > In <6s1urq$o...@news.Hawaii.Edu> he...@Hawaii.Edu (Virginia E Hench)
> > writes:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Aloha, Ginny.
> >
And here I thought "Aloha" had to do with forebearance and acceptance. In
any event, anyone who has a problem
with dear old Roger, really,
I think, is rather mean spirited.
Jim
Dan Sterner
(Jim) wrote:
>And here I thought "Aloha" had to do with forebearance and acceptance. In
>any event, anyone who has a problem
>with dear old Roger, really,
>I think, is rather mean spirited.
>
>Jim
That hardly represents an open mind, who you like or not is a matter
of personal preference. Anyone who doesn't like the same people that
you do is simply mean spirited? What ever happened to personal
preference, open minds, differences of opinion, and all that good
stuff?
BTW, from my understanding, Aloha means hello and/or goodbye.
---
Books for the Ecosystem minded gardener
http://www.webgardens.com/bookstore/ecosystem.htm
Morr
Jim wrote:
>
> > m&v wrote:
> > >
> > > In <6s1urq$o...@news.Hawaii.Edu> he...@Hawaii.Edu (Virginia E Hench)
> > > writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
> > > >
> > > > Aloha, Ginny.
> > >
> -----------------------
>
m&v
jgall...@oavax.csuchico.edu (Jim) writes:
>
>
>And here I thought "Aloha" had to do with forebearance and acceptance.
In any event, anyone who has a problem
>with dear old Roger, really,
>I think, is rather mean
spirited.
>
>Jim
I could not have said it better myself.
Victoria
Kiki Hiott
says...
>
>m&v wrote:
>>
>> In <6s1urq$o...@news.Hawaii.Edu> he...@Hawaii.Edu (Virginia E Hench)
>> writes:
>>
>> >
>> > If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
>> >
>> > Aloha, Ginny.
>>
>> I don't mind him that much. He is the science editor of Horticulture
>> Magazine...in case you didn't know.
>>
>
>I have a certain affinity for bearded, extremely nearsighted men who
>like to garden, having been one for the past 22 years (the beard is only
>22 years old, anyway).
>
>Crockett's Victory Garden book hooked me on gardening (didn't take much,
>though, as my family has a long history of growing vegetables) but I
>"evolved" into a completely poison-free gardener and so some of his
>"industrial" techniques don't appeal to me now. I find Roger Swain more
>interesting and I wish he spent more time gardening and less time
>handing off to the road show.
>
>Steve (Maritime...)
I think Roger Swain is GREAT! When he talks about gardening, you can tell
how much he enjoys what he is doing. And while I'm at it , I also like Chef
Marion and her politacally incorrect, butter-filled recipes.
Kiki Hiott, Zone 7, Oklahoma
mrsco...@webtv.net
don't know about who did this before. I like the visiting other
gardens...since Australia is like my zone 12-13, it is pertinent for me
& folks in this zone. I like seeing other places & wishing my zone
allowed shady/cool plants. Roger has good suggestions. About the
recipes: eating low fat foods won't necessarily make you live longer:but
it will seem longer!
All unsolicited advertising sent to this email address will be
immediately forwarded to your ISP/postmaster SO BE AWARE!
Virginia E Hench
: > > Aloha, Ginny.
: I have a certain affinity for bearded, extremely nearsighted men who
...
> Steve, Maritime
Aloha, Steve: It's not the beard (which I like)
It's not the glasses (which I like) It's not
his credentials or knowledge (which are fine)
It's Swain himself I don't care for. Maybe I would
like him in person - who knows? I DON'T like him
on the show, so if he's on, I don't watch the show.
Not questioning anyone else's right to like him,
enjoy his personality, or for that matter, to worship
the ground on which he walks. Reasonable people can
differ, No?
Aloha, Ginny Hench
he...@hawaii.edu
Virginia E Hench
: I could not have said it better myself.
: Victoria
Sorry - I guess I missed the part in the FAQ that
said we all had to think alike or keep quiet.
Reasonable people can differ -- perhaps unreasonable
ones find this threatening.
Aloha, Ginny
he...@hawaii.edu
Brian E. Clark
<wesol...@freewwweb.com> wrote:
> I think it's lousy that she gets to use up 5-10 minutes of
> valuable time on a gardening program just to show her
> recipes.
Yes, especially when you consider how unappealing some of her
dishes sound: "Mmmm. Sawdust and goat's hoof soup, piping hot!"
--
Brian E. Clark
brian<at>telerama<dot>com
____________________________________________________
Il faut aller voir.
Jim
> Reasonable people can differ -- perhaps unreasonable
> ones find this threatening.
But I'm an unreasonable person and I differ --
I haven't watched Victory Garden regularly since Crockett's day -- but
somebody must like the new guys or it wouldn't still be on.
J.Michael
" . . . and so when they came banging on my door at 2 a.m.
and yelled out: 'Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms', I thought
it was just another delivery." -- J.K. Abaton
m&v
writes:
>
>m&v (ani...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: I could not have said it better myself.
>: Victoria
>
> Sorry - I guess I missed the part in the FAQ that
> said we all had to think alike or keep quiet.
>
> ones find this threatening.
>
> he...@hawaii.edu
>
>
What are you talking about? It would be so nice if you'd quote from
the post you are annoyed at.
Victoria-when did someone write a FAQ?
Dan Parker
<35E599...@prodigy.net>...
> m&v wrote:
> >
> > Well, us Americans also have the highest occurance of heart disease,
> > and death due to heart disease on the planet. Nuff said.
> > >
> have very high heart disease rates, countries that use mostly butter are
> neutral on heart disease and those that use olive oil have a much lower
> rate. France has a much lower rate of heart disease than the U.S., but
> they use a great deal more cream and butter! I don't really think
> natural stuff is the culprit. Seems to me that 20 years after a new
> synthetic is introduced as healthy into the American diet, we have a big
> upsurge in disease...
>
> Prof. Zooks
Moderate intake of wine (especially red) with your meals....there's the
answer! And if it's really good wine, it doesn't even matter what was the
question ;-)
Dan
Dan Parker
<35E64DB7...@home.com>...
> It's because us Americans spend too much time sitting on our duffs
> waiting for someone to make a miracle pill that will make us all lose
> weight. The only way to stay healthy and in good shape is to get out of
> our chars and away from our tv and get some excercise. Now if I could
> only follow that advice on a regular basis. Getting a job that has me at
> home sitting in front of a computer more than 8 hours a day has done
> some pretty bad things to my body. My last job didn't pay as much, but
> the half mile walk to work (each way) kept me in great shape.
Was it also uphill both ways? Barefoot? Through the snow? ;-)
Dan
Cheryl + Rich Isaak
Morash)!!
What are your favorite and least favorite gardening shows?
My favorites are Gardeners Journal; a Canadian based show that has a lot
of good info for me in NH,
Victory Garden, I adore Roger
both of Paul James shows - my 6 yo watches him
with me!!!
Least fav - Surprise Garden; tacky tacky, closely followed by the show with
Erica Glassner; she just gets under my skin.
Cheryl
NH
Catherine Hensley
Cheryl + Rich Isaak wrote:
I caught part of the series by Eliot Coleman and Barbara Da???? (wife) called,
I think, "The Four Season Harvest," which apparently followed the format of
Eliot's book, with some landscaping stuff thrown in from Barbara's point of
view. But by the time I found the series on The Learning Chanel (TLC), it was
down to the last two episodes, and the programs didn't repeat. Unfair!
My least favorite gardening show is The Victory Garden, which seems to think
everyone gardens in New England (if not England itself), with occasional trips
to southern California. Hey, guys, there's a whole continent between the
extremes there! I personally live in the arid alpine region that stretches
from New Mexico to Montana along the Rocky Mountain states, which is NEVER
addressed by national gardening shows/magazines/etc. And when someone does
address arid regions, they usually talk about southern Arizona. Hey, this is
Zone 5, not Zone 9! I live at 7800 ft above sea level, not in Death Valley!
Well, okay, I pretty much don't watch any gardening programs now, because none
of them address MY reality.
Catherine (Zone 5 alpine desert)
Setzler
ditto on the eliot coleman and Barbara damrosh thing although I
haven't seen any gardening shows in months. Paul James was pretty good
too, and there was a short lived one with ....Cox from OG mag.
Susan Zone 6B
m&v
(Cheryl + Rich Isaak) writes:
>
>OK, now that everyone has weighed in on the Victory Garden (and
Marion
>Morash)!!
>
>What are your favorite and least favorite gardening shows?
My favorites are:
Gardeners Journal
Gardeners Diary (yes, I enjoy Erica!)
Paul James' shows
Grow It (Jeff Cox)
Least favorite is Surprise Gardener, but I watch it anyway, and curse
it! My husband asks me why I watch it. I don't know. I guess it
annoys me!
V
Jim
Isaak) wrote:
>What are your favorite and least favorite gardening shows?
About the only one I watch is "Gardening Naturally" with Coleman and
Damrosh(sp?) -- I don't think they've made any new shows in the last
two years, there always seem s to be a repeat that I missed.
Jessie
> >My last job didn't pay as much, but
> > the half mile walk to work (each way) kept me in great shape.
>
> Was it also uphill both ways? Barefoot? Through the snow? ;-)
>
Yeah, and I'll bet home was a paper bag in the middle of the
road, too! Now that's recycling! ;-D
Jessie
>
> Morash)!!
>
>
Favorite: *definitely* "Gardening Naturally" with Elliot
Coleman and Barbara Damrosch. (Hope they do some new
episodes soon!) Runners-up: The show OG produced with Jeff
Cox (and McGrath--good luck to this ever returning!), and,
still, "Victory Garden" (personally, I love Roger Swain;
Seabrook's a hoot; and they do visit VG South).
Least favorite: Jerry "I Haven't A Clue" Baker. No
runners-up, no one else even approaches this epitome of bad
advice. (Then again, I have yet to see "Surprise Gardener",
judging from the complaints, it's a pip.)
Prof. Zooks
>
> OK, now that everyone has weighed in on the Victory Garden (and Marion
> Morash)!!
>
> What are your favorite and least favorite gardening shows?
>
> of good info for me in NH,
> Victory Garden, I adore Roger
> both of Paul James shows - my 6 yo watches him
> with me!!!
> Least fav - Surprise Garden; tacky tacky, closely followed by the show with
> Erica Glassner; she just gets under my skin.
>
> Cheryl
> NH
I would have to vote for a short series; Joy of Gardening with Dick
Raymond. Excellent! Rebecca's Garden also looks pretty good.
Regards,
Prof. Zooks
Susan K. Wehe
projects to do with my nursing home residents is difficult. This last week, I
decided to do a pressed flower project and lo and behold, she did a segment on
this morning's show on it. Timeliness is everything ;)
susan
Lisa Hafey
here in Australia we have a very very very excellent programme, which is
permaculture/organic gardening based, called "Gardening Australia". I somehow
think you won't get that one, which is a huge shame. They have a little man,
originally from Manchester England, named Peter Cundall, who swears by "Blood and
bloomin' Bone" for every gardening purpose! Something to watch out for if you're
ever over here, on the ABC, 6.30 pm, Fridays.
Lisa Hafey, currently experiencing beautiful spring weather in Sydney
Helen Kay
> What about Burke's Backyard, which I think in the US is available on HGTV? Also,
> here in Australia we have a very very very excellent programme, which is
> permaculture/organic gardening based, called "Gardening Australia". I somehow
> think you won't get that one, which is a huge shame. They have a little man,
> originally from Manchester England, named Peter Cundall, who swears by "Blood and
> bloomin' Bone" for every gardening purpose! Something to watch out for if you're
> ever over here, on the ABC, 6.30 pm, Fridays.
I'm not all that fond of Burke's Backyard--he seems a little too fond of
touting the latest miraculous product. (He seems to farm his own property
with a little more attention to organic methods. Hmmm.) But _Gardening
Australia_ is great, and has an associated magazine. They seem more
interested in edibles than Burke, too.
As far as one-offs go, I watched the first episode of "Yo-Yo Ma --
Inspired by Bach" last night (the one about the (at that stage proposed)
music garden in Toronto). I thought it was a fabulous project. Has anyone
seen the show? More to the point, has anyone seen the garden?
Helen.
Neohippie
Garden". That was the best gardening show ever, and they cancelled it!
I like it because the host was kind of a nut. He had a magic compost pile named
Gomer. At the end of the show he would put some old, junky thing in, and by the
beginning of the next show Gomer had turned it into something great: old stick
into baseball bat, tape of The Three Amigoes into a good movie, old torn-up
gloves into nice new gardening gloves, etc. He also had a blackboard named
Blackie that would come when he whistled, and then he would illustrate how
something works on it, and a little toy potato kid named Binky that would turn
up in unexpected places. I liked the goofiness. Gardeners always seem so
serious.
Also, most importantly, he gave good advice. For one thing, it was practicle.
He didn't assume you were some rich person with unlimited time and a few acres
of land, which most gardeners aren't, but most gardening shows are. He gave
plenty of time to vegetables, which are my passion, and he had a good cooking
segment with food that I could actually prepare. No really fancy ingredients. I
got a good recipie for garlic mashed potatoes and a veggie pizza from him.
My least favorite gardening show is the Victory Garden. It's too snooty with
all those fancy gardens from England or whatever. That guy with the beard and
bad teeth is really annoying, and so is the lady that cooks stuff. Oh yeah, and
how do those snooty people showing off their gardens memorize all the
scientific names for everything??
----
"Minds are like parachutes. They only work when open."
Jessie
>
> There used to be a show on PBS here called something like "Your Organic
> Garden". That was the best gardening show ever, and they cancelled it!
>
> I like it because the host was kind of a nut. He had a magic compost pile named
> Gomer. At the end of the show he would put some old, junky thing in, and by the
> beginning of the next show Gomer had turned it into something great: old stick
> into baseball bat, tape of The Three Amigoes into a good movie, old torn-up
> gloves into nice new gardening gloves, etc. He also had a blackboard named
> Blackie that would come when he whistled, and then he would illustrate how
> something works on it, and a little toy potato kid named Binky that would turn
> up in unexpected places. I liked the goofiness. Gardeners always seem so
> serious.
Ah, that would be Jeff Cox, and as a cook, I must say he
sure beats VG's Maid Marian. The fellow who delivered the
show's bug-of-the-week, BTW, was Mike McGrath, then editor
of Organic Gardening. I'm afraid America wasn't ready for
the goofiness--McGrath ultimately resigned (read "got
dumped") by OG, apparently because his weird and refreshing
sense of humor was too much for the snooty to take. Sigh!
> My least favorite gardening show is the Victory Garden. It's too snooty with
> all those fancy gardens from England or whatever. That guy with the beard and
> bad teeth is really annoying, and so is the lady that cooks stuff. Oh yeah, and
> how do those snooty people showing off their gardens memorize all the
> scientific names for everything??
Well, I do like VG, but won't argue a matter of taste. On
the other hand, knowing the botanical names doesn't make a
person snooty--you can bet your life the amusing Misters Cox
and McGrath know the botanical names. Common names vary so
much from locale to locale that the only way two gardeners
from different areas can be certain that they are talking
about the same plant is through the use of botanical names.
You can make this simple test: go down to the local Home
Depot (or whatever) and ask the floor clerk for a
"geranium", then go down to the best nursery in your area
and ask for a "geranium". I'm 99.99 percent certain that
you will wind up with two very dissimilar plants (unless of
course one of the clerks asks you by botanical name which
you prefer).
Mooflower
Gardener Guy). He's got lots of information and he serves it up with a sense
of humor.
I also like Rebecca's Garden and Grow It - A Gardener's Guide. Both of those
are also on HGTV.
Laurie
(Moo!)
Zone 6, NE PA
~To plant a garden, is to believe in tomorrow~
~~To err is human, to moo bovine.~~
Dan Parker
<35FAB15E...@columbia.T.edu>...
> Dan Parker wrote:
> >
> > Sam J. Bowling <t...@home.com> wrote in article
> > >[snip]
> > >My last job didn't pay as much, but
> > > the half mile walk to work (each way) kept me in great shape.
> >
> > Was it also uphill both ways? Barefoot? Through the snow? ;-)
> >
>
> Yeah, and I'll bet home was a paper bag in the middle of the
> road, too! Now that's recycling! ;-D
>
> --
> Jessie
Oh? Had a paper bag, did you? Luxury......
Dan
phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net
Dan Parker wrote:
...lucky to get a handful of cold gravel....
Ann
>My least favorite gardening show is the Victory Garden. It's too snooty with
>all those fancy gardens from England or whatever. That guy with the beard and
>bad teeth is really annoying, and so is the lady that cooks stuff. Oh yeah, and
>how do those snooty people showing off their gardens memorize all the
>scientific names for everything??
So, I'm snooty because I learn the botanical names for plants ;->
Well, excuuuse me. As for fancy gardens in England, until you've been
there, you'll never really appreciate what a gardening country England
truly is.
The guy with the bad teeth...hmmm, do you mean Roger Swain? Awesome
intellect, and probably pretty weird in real life..like me. I've read
his stuff in Horticulture for years. He knows all those funny names
for plants, too. Must be a snoot, huh? But then again, you probably
don't bother with Horticulture.
Why do I bother??? <G>
Ann
Gardening in Zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
Fix the from: 9 is the spam trap!
Judith Reed
love each individual specimen! Also Victory Garden, I'm on the side of those
who see in Roger Swain a man of their own heart!
Regarding the scientific names - we are each different, some of us take
pleasure in learning them, and others don't - doesn't mean we can't
have pleasureable discourse without insults! I personally enjoy learning
the scientific names, because they do specifically identify each plant,
and also because I'm an identification freak, never happy till I can name
a creature or plant. It does make it a bit hard to communicate though,
particularly if you *only* know the scientific name - the writers who
only use the latin without including common names where they are available
make their articles and books much less accessible. The best way is to
use both - then you are understandable, and you are helping to educate others!
Happy gardening to us all - viva la difference!
--
Judith Reed
jr...@appliedtheory.com
Jessie
You GOT gravel??! Why we had to make our own gravel!
Daniel T
Jessie wrote in message <35FC6199...@columbia.T.edu>...
>Neohippie wrote:
>>
>> There used to be a show on PBS here called something like "Your Organic
>> Garden". That was the best gardening show ever, and they cancelled it!
>>
>> I like it because the host was kind of a nut. He had a magic compost pile
named
>> Gomer.
>Ah, that would be Jeff Cox, and as a cook, I must say he
>sure beats VG's Maid Marian.
I'm not sure if it's the same guy, but HGTV's "Grow it" is hosted by a
guy named Jeff Cox. Gold tooth right in the front. His show is pretty good.
Dan
Jessie
> >sure beats VG's Maid Marian.
>
> I'm not sure if it's the same guy, but HGTV's "Grow it" is hosted by a
> guy named Jeff Cox. Gold tooth right in the front. His show is pretty good.
>
That's him! Sadly, Time-Warner in NYC has not seen the need
to carry HGTV [sniff!]. I guess they think folks in the Big
Apple don't garden. Is "Grow It" produced by OG or Rodale?
Is there any sign of McGrath on the show (large brash
fellow, black hair, glasses, weirder than Cox, believe it or
not)?
AFAIK Cox is still doing a monthly vegetarian receipe column
in OG.
phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net
Jessie wrote:
> phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net wrote:
> >
> > Dan Parker wrote:
> >
> > > Jessie <je...@columbia.T.edu> wrote in article
> > > <35FAB15E...@columbia.T.edu>...
> > > > Dan Parker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sam J. Bowling <t...@home.com> wrote in article
> > > > > >[snip]
> > > > > >My last job didn't pay as much, but
> > > > > > the half mile walk to work (each way) kept me in great shape.
> > > > >
> > > > > Was it also uphill both ways? Barefoot? Through the snow? ;-)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, and I'll bet home was a paper bag in the middle of the
> > > > road, too! Now that's recycling! ;-D
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jessie
> > >
> > > Oh? Had a paper bag, did you? Luxury......
> > >
> > > Dan
> >
> > ...lucky to get a handful of cold gravel....
>
> You GOT gravel??! Why we had to make our own gravel!
>
> --
> Jessie
>
I must be getting senile - that schtick makes me laugh til I have tears in
me eyes....
Jessie
Me too. I just couldn't resist. Well, back to the garden,
I guess!
;-D
Sonnie
phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net wrote in article
> > > > > > Sam J. Bowling <t...@home.com> wrote in article
> > > > > > >[snip]
> > > > > > >My last job didn't pay as much, but
> > > > > > > the half mile walk to work (each way) kept me in great shape.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Was it also uphill both ways? Barefoot? Through the snow?
;-)
> > > > > >
> > ...lucky to get a handful of cold gravel....
> >
> > You GOT gravel??! Why we had to make our own gravel!
> > Jessie
> I must be getting senile - that schtick makes me laugh til I have tears
in
> me eyes....
>
>I say ! Shades of Monte Python !!
Sonnie :-)
Jessie
Don't get me wrong, I love the Pythons, but I think we were
all paying homage to a bygone generation of Catskill
tummlers (any maybe a bit of Mel Brooks).
obGardens: What kind of pythons do you have in your
garden? Black racers and garter snakes are all I ever see
here.
TyraTree
On Sat, Sep 19, 1998 12:57 pm, Jessie <je...@columbia.T.edu> wrote:
(give or take a few >><<)
>Sonnie wrote:
>
> phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net wrote in article
> > > > > > > Sam J. Bowling <t...@home.com> wrote in article
> > > > > > > >[snip]
> > > > > > > >My last job didn't pay as much, but
> > > > > > > > the half mile walk to work (each way) kept me in great shape.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Was it also uphill both ways? Barefoot? Through the snow?
> ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > ...lucky to get a handful of cold gravel....
> > >
> > > You GOT gravel??! Why we had to make our own gravel!
> > > Jessie
> > I must be getting senile - that schtick makes me laugh til I have tears
> in
> > me eyes....
> >
> >I say ! Shades of Monte Python !!
>
> >Sonnie :-)
>Don't get me wrong, I love the Pythons, but I think we were
all paying homage to a bygone generation of Catskill
tummlers (any maybe a bit of Mel Brooks).
obGardens: What kind of pythons do you have in your
garden? Black racers and garter snakes are all I ever see
here.
--
Jessie<
You get garters? All we ever get are rubber bands.
--Tyra in NYC
Jessie
>
> You get garters? All we ever get are rubber bands.
>
> --Tyra in NYC
What was that about a 10 second warning (mopping up the Diet
Pepsi from my keyboard)?!
TyraTree
On Sun, Sep 20, 1998 2:29 pm, Jessie <je...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>TyraTree wrote:
>>You get garters? All we ever get are rubber bands.
>> --Tyra in NYC
>What was that about a 10 second warning (mopping up the Diet
>Pepsi from my keyboard)?!
--
>Jessie
>New York City
>j e s 2 2 at columbia dot edu
---------------
Hey, turnabout's fair play! This thread has had me on Windex alert almost
since it started.
Tyra in NYC ammonia zone 6
Diana
>
> Sonnie wrote:
> >
> > phx...@pop.phnx.uswest.net wrote in article
> > > > > > > > Sam J. Bowling <t...@home.com> wrote in article
> > > > > > > > >[snip]
> > > > > > > > >My last job didn't pay as much, but
> > > > > > > > > the half mile walk to work (each way) kept me in great shape.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Was it also uphill both ways? Barefoot? Through the snow?
> > ;-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > ...lucky to get a handful of cold gravel....
> > > >
> > > > You GOT gravel??! Why we had to make our own gravel!
> > > > Jessie
> > > I must be getting senile - that schtick makes me laugh til I have tears
> > in
> > > me eyes....
> > >
> > >I say ! Shades of Monte Python !!
> >
> > Sonnie :-)
>
> Don't get me wrong, I love the Pythons, but I think we were
> all paying homage to a bygone generation of Catskill
> tummlers (any maybe a bit of Mel Brooks).
>
This was from a Monte Python skit called "the four Yorkshiremen".
Jessie
Yes, I know they used it, but they didn't invent it. This
schtick is old enough to apply for Medicare.
--
Jessie
New York City
j e s 2 2 at columbia dot edu
Dave
woman...the one that makes up those absurd recipes. I know that she's the
wife of the producer but I think nepotism goes only so far.
Dave
Milwaukee
Virginia E Hench wrote in message <6si415$2...@news.Hawaii.Edu>...
>: > > If we could just replace that annoying Roger Swain!!
>: > > Aloha, Ginny.
>
>: I have a certain affinity for bearded, extremely nearsighted men who
> ...
>
>> Steve, Maritime
>
>
> Aloha, Steve: It's not the beard (which I like)
> It's not the glasses (which I like) It's not
> his credentials or knowledge (which are fine)
> It's Swain himself I don't care for. Maybe I would
> like him in person - who knows? I DON'T like him
> on the show, so if he's on, I don't watch the show.
>
>
> Not questioning anyone else's right to like him,
> enjoy his personality, or for that matter, to worship
> the ground on which he walks. Reasonable people can
> differ, No?
>
> Aloha, Ginny Hench
> he...@hawaii.edu
Dave
they could write off their trip as a business expense. Has anyone tried
contacting dear Russ and Marion and bitching to them?
Dave
Milwaukee
P.S. I can't stand her either.
Jessie wrote in message <35DF1C97...@columbia.edu>...
>Jack Wesolowski wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone remember whether Marian Morash appeared on this show when it
>> was called "Crockett's Victory Garden"? I think it's lousy that she
>> gets to use up 5-10 minutes of valuable time on a gardening program just
>> to show her recipes. If she must show her fat ass on TV, why doesn't
>> her old man set her up with her own cooking show?
>
>Really! I don't mind it so much when she's cooking veggies,
>but that year where she was globe-trotting around the world
>collecting fish recipes really got my goat. I don't think
>she was there when Crockett was, but I was just a "wee
>bairn" (garden-wise) at the time and didn't really pay that
>much attention.
>
>Roger should run her through the chipper-shredder and add
>her to the compost heap!
Scott Mcphee
show.
Scott
Mooflower wrote in message
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Amy Knutson
personally think showing how to cook with vegetables grown in the garden
is an excellent idea, and I appreciate her tips for quick and easy
fresh-from-the-garden foods. I like the garden tours but I wish they had
less of them and more about growing a food supply for the family,
harvesting, preserving, and cooking it. After all, that was the original
intent of the victory gardens.
-Amy K.
On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, Dave wrote:
> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:10:43 -0700
> From: Dave <dcam...@execpc.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.gardens, rec.gardens.edible
> Subject: Re: The Victory Garden
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Garden. The original Victory Garden, set in Boston, made the original host Jim
Crockett my favorite source of information when I was transferring my gardening
experience from rural to urban. He was my guru for northern gardening because
he demonstrated, explained, and provided names and products. I purchased his
book and used it as my gardening bible. (Yes, I was irked when Victory Garden
South was added because it limited the time spent providing information on
northern gardening). The next host after Jim Crockett's death was a landscape
gardener (don't remember name) who provided information that failed to pique my
interest, and I seldom watched it while he hosted the show. Fortunately he
didn't last long.
When Roger Swain became host, I again became a viewer, but I feel too much time
is spent on gardens tours. Roger is a well-informed nerd, but the show limits
his explanation time too much, and M. Morash and her cooking - use garlic,
ground pepper, and extra-virgin olive (whatever that is), wastes a dedicated
gardener's time! I've always thought about sending the show this opinion, but I
don't think they would pay any attention. That is just my opinion.........
John
BAnders778
I like Rebecca's Garden too. Also, Martha Stewart has some good gardening
segments on her show.
Sammk
>and extra-virgin olive (whatever that is),
this is oil from the very first pressing and is most flavourful for sure.
subsequent pressings are virgin
then you get your lights and extra lights etc. (yuk!)
a.
Ann
>M. Morash and her cooking - use garlic,
>ground pepper, and extra-virgin olive (whatever that is), wastes a dedicated
>gardener's time! I've always thought about sending the show this opinion, but I
>don't think they would pay any attention. That is just my opinion.........
I have no problem with Marion's cooking, it's just that she throws
EVERYTHING into the food processor and turns it to mush! <G>
Brett Lowden
and nothing she cooks looks like anything I ever cook. I'm not sure which of
us is doing it wrong. Of course when you overplant zucchini like I did and
El Nino turns them into five pound monsters then pretty much anything you
cook is going to be green anyway so maybe that's something to do with it.
bs...@home.com
Tara
In article <19980926004748...@ngol03.aol.com>,
Mooflower
Gardening By The Yard on HGTV. Funny and informative!