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David J. Bockman

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Aug 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/8/00
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The bottom line is: Raw tree is worth very little. Dressed, dried black
walnut lumber is worth a lot. If you were to get it to a mill yourself, and
have them cut and dry it, then you'd have something.

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AlanXL <ala...@aol.comjunkless> wrote in message
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> I have a Black Walnut tree I want to have cut down. I have heard the wood
is
> of value. It's about 44 inches in diameter at the base. Can anyone give
me
> some idea of what a reasonable offer might be (over and above the
purchaser
> providing the tree removal)? Or would I be lucky just to find someone to
cut
> it down no charge if I gave him the wood?
>
> Please respond directly to me (please note junk block suffix). Thanks!
>
> Alan (Ala...@aol.com)
> Michigan
>

Chris Moore

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I used to have a neighbor that looked for propery for sale with Black
Walnut trees on them. He said that a mature Black Walnut (70 years old)
was worth about $70,000. Don't know how accurate that is or who he sold
them to but it's a start until you get some more information.

In article <20000808210817...@ng-fq1.aol.com>, AlanXL

Bill Morgan

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Aug 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/8/00
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In article <8mqc6o$iur$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "David J. Bockman"
<djb_m...@bunabayashi.com.invalid> wrote:

> The bottom line is: Raw tree is worth very little. Dressed, dried black
> walnut lumber is worth a lot.

True enough. And it's tough to evaluate the thing before you cut it down.
Impossible for someone to do over the net. Urban trees especially are apt
to have all sorts of nasty surprises in them: nails, pieces of chain and
other junk which the tree has grown around.

Regards,
Bill

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AlanXL

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David Jensen

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On Tue, 08 Aug 2000 23:15:04 -0400, in rec.gardens
wtmo...@pilot.msu.edu (Bill Morgan) wrote in
<wtmorgan-ya02408000R0808002315040001@msunews>:

>In article <8mqc6o$iur$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, "David J. Bockman"
><djb_m...@bunabayashi.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The bottom line is: Raw tree is worth very little. Dressed, dried black
>> walnut lumber is worth a lot.
>
>True enough. And it's tough to evaluate the thing before you cut it down.
>Impossible for someone to do over the net. Urban trees especially are apt
>to have all sorts of nasty surprises in them: nails, pieces of chain and
>other junk which the tree has grown around.
>
>Regards,
>Bill

Many (most? all?) sawmills will not accept any urban trees. Unless you
know someone who is willing to chance it, plan on using it for firewood.

Ann

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David Jensen <da...@dajensen-family.com> expounded:

>Many (most? all?) sawmills will not accept any urban trees. Unless you
>know someone who is willing to chance it, plan on using it for firewood.

Some of the sawmills around here are using some high-tech magnetic
scanners to check for metal. Beats turning down a good trunk or
ruining a $2,000 blade.

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rjsalmon

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AlanXL wrote:

> I have a Black Walnut tree I want to have cut down. I have heard the wood is
> of value.

It's great in theory. I had a mature walnut taken down to make room for a house
addition. (Removing the walnut was also the second best thing I even did for my
garden.) I could not interest any saw mill in the trunk. The only interest I got
was from one miller who said he'd be interested in a dozen trees, but not one. I
had to pay to have it hauled to the dump.

At first I tended to blame the lack of interest on being in the twisted economy
of the Wash DC area; now I think no one is interested in one tree of dubious age
and history.

Rob.


Kubwa

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It still cost as much to go get One trunk as it does a full
load::::Economics::::
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Paul Onstad

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Maybe have the tree felled (about $275) and left as is; buy a
chainsaw....long crosscut saw, carve it up, build a shelter; and, when the
wood is cured in a couple of years, sell smaller pieces to woodworkers.
Heck, someone mentioned $70,000 :) It might be worth going into the lumber
business.

Anyhow, it would make a good project for a couple of years :)

-Paul

Bob Kirk

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Sorry, folks. (hey, keep that and frame it!) ... second time in two days,
though the other was a supposedly postponed first draft to another group.

Anyway.... As many have suggested it all depends on where the tree is
located, i.e. how likely it is to have some bits of metal in it. And as Ann
suggested, even that might not matter to the occasional modern sawmill.
As for the lumber being worth tens of thousands of dollars and the tree
itself worth nothing - and how it costs as much to go get one log as it does
a full load, for the moment I'd value such advice at what you paid for it.
What they'll be primarily interested in is dbh (diameter at breast
height). Say no less than 36" for a tree 44" at the base. If it's also a
clear log with no major branches less than 10-12' up and from a reasonably
"safe" site, you shouldn't have any trouble finding someone to come a few
hundred miles for it and pay you very well for the privilege.
They don't see a lot of 36" walnut logs these days - and except for some
outfit that's regularly cutting old-growth Douglas Fir etc., a tree that
size should make near enough a full load for a >typical< truck as not to
matter anyway.
Before you do anything else talk to the Extension Foresters at MSU
(department phone # at www.msue.msu.edu) and see what they say. It may
well be that everything you've learned so far is true, but I don't think
you know that yet.

dr....@megapathdsl.net

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rec.woodworking might be interested, but I like the idea of cutting,
stacking drying and selling it on ebay.
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Richard Krape

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Aug 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/11/00
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Sounds like the tree is worth a lot if you can get it milled into
boards. and have a place to stack it with spacers for air drying and
keep it out of the weather. Walnut trees that size are rare and
expensive. even on the stump. Try gettng some feedback from a county ag
agent or a state forestry person. I would not be in a hurry to give it
away! When we had a similar tree on property where a school was built,
the stump alone was valued at $400 for veneer wood. Subtract labor and
shipping, still laves some nice cash. Part of the value would be based
on distance from a mill.

Berg


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