I would like to know (if possible):
a/. How one can kill it in an environmentally friendly fashion, or
b/. How to kill it in no uncertain terms, and
c/. If there is a reference in the bible of bamboo being the plant of
satan ;)
Ron King (Auckland, NZ)
>I would like to know (if possible):
>a/. How one can kill it in an environmentally friendly fashion, or
>b/. How to kill it in no uncertain terms, and
>c/. If there is a reference in the bible of bamboo being the plant of
>satan ;)
---------------------------
I have not tried it, but I have heard that they dont like getting cut
down and having salt poured on the area that the plant is in.
Roundup will make them sick, but it's hard to kill.
David
Ron King <rona...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in article
<34BC0994...@ihug.co.nz>...
> Hello all, I have been entrusted in maintaining a property that has an
> unwanted growth of bamboo on it. Not being of the garderning variety
> myself I would like to know how to kill it. I don't know the species
> only that it was 'dormant' then went quite mad last year and I have not
> been able to kill or even halt it's spread!!.
>
> I would like to know (if possible):
> a/. How one can kill it in an environmentally friendly fashion, or
> b/. How to kill it in no uncertain terms, and
> c/. If there is a reference in the bible of bamboo being the plant of
> satan ;)
>
> Ron King (Auckland, NZ)
>
>
In Australia there is a product called ROUNDUP and it is quite
environmentally friendly.
It kills most palnts and generally won't hurt animals.
Kevin Gaddes
JO_N...@BIGPOND.COM
>Hello all, I have been entrusted in maintaining a property that has an
>unwanted growth of bamboo on it. Not being of the garderning variety
>myself I would like to know how to kill it. I don't know the species
>only that it was 'dormant' then went quite mad last year and I have not
>been able to kill or even halt it's spread!!.
>
>I would like to know (if possible):
>a/. How one can kill it in an environmentally friendly fashion, or
>b/. How to kill it in no uncertain terms, and
>c/. If there is a reference in the bible of bamboo being the plant of
>satan ;)
Break off all new shoots as soon as they appear. Cut off the
existing stems close to ground level and Immediately paint with
Roundup. It must be done immediately as bamboo will form a barrier
to the entry of Roundup at the wound (cut) site very quickly.
Be persistent.
Rob
To e-mail me change gorob to robgo
go...@ozemail.com.au
Tisa
Ron King wrote:
>
> Hello all, I have been entrusted in maintaining a property that has an
> unwanted growth of bamboo on it. Not being of the garderning variety
> myself I would like to know how to kill it.
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Ron King wrote:
> Hello all, I have been entrusted in maintaining a property that has an
> unwanted growth of bamboo on it. Not being of the garderning variety
> myself I would like to know how to kill it. I don't know the species
> only that it was 'dormant' then went quite mad last year and I have not
> been able to kill or even halt it's spread!!.
>
> I would like to know (if possible):
> a/. How one can kill it in an environmentally friendly fashion, or
> b/. How to kill it in no uncertain terms, and
> c/. If there is a reference in the bible of bamboo being the plant of
> satan ;)
>
> Ron King (Auckland, NZ)
Hi there!
Our gardening conditions surely are very different but I can understand
your problem since, on a much smaller scale, I too have been confronted
with excessive bamboo growth.
You should know that bamboos are GRASSES and there are several specific
weedkillers that kill off grasses, leaving other plants relatively
unharmed. I have found that they are quite effective against bamboos, but
the results are only visible after one or two years. So please be patient
and do not think (as I once did) that there is no result at all.
In my garden, the problem has been solved rather drastically in one case
since one species (phyllostachis murielae?) suddenly started flowering in
1997 and consequently died off (I suppose all over Europe and in other
places).
However, I would suggest not to go to extremes since many bamboo species
are very decorative and (in my climate) are very valuable garden plants.
Lots of fun!
Goos Morning,
I just ordered some balck bamboo (don't know the genus and species off
hand). Am I making a mistake???? I plan to plant it inside a barrier to
prevent spreading. Will this work?
Thanks,
Kiki Hiott, Oklahoma, Zone 7
I am a specialist in bamboo and thought I might add an
environmentally friendly method that maybe appropriate. I
suspect that the species is a running one. Cut all culms
down at ground level fence off the whole area (electric
fence maybe the easiest) and introduce goats or some other
grazing animal to keep all regrowth grazed back until the
grove is dead. On a small area digging it out is not that
hard if a tractor can deep rip out most of the rhizomes out
then follow up by hand. Some detail follow up digging will
be necessary for up to a year.
We sell selected clumping bamboos mainly large species that
are valuable for shoots &/or timber. These are easier to
manage especially if harvested regularly. Send me an e-mail
request for an informative catalogue of useful bamboo
species, aquatic food plants, spices of the ginger family &
more. Our farm & nursery is at 'Crystal Waters Permaculture
Village', in the Sunshine coast Hinterland QLD.
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Robert Gorey wrote in message
<34bd462f...@news.labyrinth.net.au>...
>On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:40:52 +1300, Ron King
<rona...@ihug.co.nz>
>wrote:
>
>>Hello all, I have been entrusted in maintaining a property
that has an
>>unwanted growth of bamboo on it. Not being of the
garderning variety
>>myself I would like to know how to kill it. I don't know
the species
>>only that it was 'dormant' then went quite mad last year
and I have not
>>been able to kill or even halt it's spread!!.
>>
>>I would like to know (if possible):
>>a/. How one can kill it in an environmentally friendly
fashion, or
>>b/. How to kill it in no uncertain terms, and
>>c/. If there is a reference in the bible of bamboo being
the plant of
>>satan ;)
>
Don't try to dig it out unless you're a masochist. (And you'll still need
several years to find all the pieces of rhizome you missed.)
Don't try to kill it chemically unless you don't want anything to grow
there again, ever -- and run the risk of having the spot declared a toxic
waste site.
Properly used, bamboo is a wonderful plant. But it doesn't work the way
ordinary trees and bushes do and trying to get rid of it by ordinary means
is an exercise in frustration.
--RC
Forget the salt trick unless you want to poison the soil at the spot and
for several feet around.
>Roundup will make them sick, but it's hard to kill.
Roundup will, eventually, kill bamboo if you can spray all of it. But it
will take several seasons.
Understand that all those bamboo culms you see are part of the same plant
and that the plant has a network of underground rhizomes that maintain
enormous stores of food. An established bamboo patch takes a LOT of
killing.
--RC
No. The underground rhizomes are the toughest parts.
--RC
No. It is a beautiful plant, often considered the most beautiful of all the
bamboos. It is a runner, but it is a fairly well behaved one.
> I plan to plant it inside a barrier to prevent spreading. Will this work?
Perfectly well. The ideal barrier goes down about 18", has no openings and
is slanted away from the plant to encourage rhizomes that reach it to grow
up.
However don't use plastic film. Bamboo punches through that like it's not
there.
Alternatively, you can just mow down the shoots that appear wherey ou don't
want them.
--RC
Stephen Tennant wrote:
>
> Robert Gorey (go...@ozemail.com.au) wrote:
> : On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:40:52 +1300, Ron King <rona...@ihug.co.nz>
> : wrote:
>
> : >Hello all, I have been entrusted in maintaining a property that has an
> : >unwanted growth of bamboo on it. Not being of the garderning variety
> : >myself I would like to know how to kill it. I don't know the species
> : >only that it was 'dormant' then went quite mad last year and I have not
> : >been able to kill or even halt it's spread!!.
> : >
>
> I agree with the roundup suggestions as well as the advice to be persistant. I
> will add one other tip I have heard. After cutting it to ground level and
> treating the shoots, fertilise and water well. Sounds odd but this will
> encourage any hidden shoots into the open. As soon as they appear spray with
> roundup. This whole process may nedd repetition.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Steve T
Chris (too, too poor to be bankrupt)
NSW
What would be the problem with planting bamboo next to a wall? I've
always thought that, if I ever get tired of gardening, I'd replace
what I've got in my very tiny city garden with evergreen bamboo -- but
it would be bounded by a brick wall and two stucco walls. What would
it do to them or they to it? Thanks.
I have heard that bamboo can be contained by putting a sheet of tin
underground next to the bamboo to stop the runners, as bamboo only runs in
one direction (not sure which, though!) - anyone else heard of this or know
if it's valid?
Marnie
Newcastle, NSW
Whew. Thanks.
Let's not panic too much about bamboo :-). It depends on which type of bamboo
is involved. Not all bamboo spreads in the manner suggested so far in this
thread.
Yes, some types of bamboo DO spread unless checked. And yes you can keep such
bamboo confined by surrounding it with a barrier dug into the ground.
You can dig a trench around the bamboo and sink into the ground galvanised
sheeting or roofing material such as Alsanyte (?spelling) or something
similar. One normally sinks the barrier at an angle with the top of the
barrier pointing away from the bamboo more than the bottom. The idea here is
to force any runners to go to the top rather than go even deeper and then
under the barrier. (This principle is applied to any plant where you want to
contain the roots.)
There is plastic sheeting now available which is used to contain roots/runners
of trees which is used by councils etc. to stop root invasions. I don't
remember its brand name but if you are interested then talk to your local
gardening centre about it.
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Sandra Brodin
http://spitfire.ausys.se/bbn/sanhome.htp
> In article <34C66B...@bamboos.com>,
>There are fewer plantings more lovely than a well maintained bamboo
>grove ...
Two poems on the subject:
I:
I love, bamboo, your fidgets
And sudden sighs, bamboo;
Awake alone I listen
To secret sussuration
like paper scraping stone,
Stroking the inner surface
of this old heart, bamboo.
II:
A young bamboo:
How tall it has grown
Without the slightest help in the world.
----
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
on beautiful Vancouver Island
These highly concentrated chemicals sound like your best bet. Look for
ones with a mixed in surfacant. Or even go to a ttype of oil spray. If
you keep at it they should buck the kicket in no time.
M.
> I agree with the roundup suggestions as well as the advice to be persistant. I
> will add one other tip I have heard. After cutting it to ground level and
> treating the shoots, fertilise and water well. Sounds odd but this will
> encourage any hidden shoots into the open. As soon as they appear spray with
> roundup. This whole process may nedd repetition.
>
> Good luck.
And patience.
I was told to let the bamboo leaf out just a bit before spraying with
Round-Up to facilitate absorbtion. Seemed to work well, albeit slowly.
--
David Eitelbach
dse...@spams.r.us.com
==>Shamu
I highly recommend a root barrier to keep it from spreading too quickly.
Also, patrol the area with roundup regularly. Longwood gardens reported a
case where bamboo actually spread from one side of a house to the other
side. They implied it was able to pass roots under the home. Hence a
root barrier may only be a slight hinderance.
--
Cheers, Steve Henning, Reading, Pennsylvania, USA
Correct email address is shen...@fast.net (Please forgive my spam deterrent)
Visit my home page at http://www.users.fast.net/~shenning
Ed in PA
good luck
a.
Martin , Andrea and Abraham Jackson (AJ)
sammk(antispam)@aol.com
> I have learned a lot by reading this thread, and I'm grateful for
> all the insight. I had been thinking of planting some decorative
> bamboo, perhaps something in the 6 to 10 foot range in my back
> yard. After realizing some of the problems I've now changed the
> plan. Does anyone care to share their experiences or opinions of
> attempting to grow bamboo in a large pot, say 2 or 3 feet in
> diameter? It seems this would prevent the spreading, and it
> could be relocated whenever I want a different look in the
> garden. Zone 8.
I am rather saddened that sometimes people get frightened of something just
because of a few well intentioned but inaccurate statements.
There are a number of bamboo varities some of which spread and most which do
not. However, the comments so far seem to instil in people that bamboo is a
curse and should be avoided at all costs. Unfortunate.
Sometime last year there was an excellent article in Gardening Australia
dealing with bamboo and written by someone in Queensland whose livelihood in
all dealing with bamboo (including making furniture etc from it). I can go
searching in my stack of this magazine to find the appropriate issue if I am
asked.
To answer your direct question, if you fear that the bamboo that you want to
grow will spread then grow it in a container - but you should select one that
will actually grow in a container. Again, the article in Gardening Australia
mentioned such varities.
Remember that Pandas feed on bamboo; that bamboo is used is Japanese gardens;
and that almost, what, 1/2+ (a guess on my part here) of the world's
population often lives in houses constructed from bamboo. If all bamboo
varities were such a "curse" then all of Japan would be overrun by it by now
and all of the tropical/sub-tropical regions of Asia would be as well.
Why is it people always fear something that they now nothing about? :-)
Shamu wrote:
> I have learned a lot by reading this thread, and I'm grateful for
> all the insight. I had been thinking of planting some decorative
> bamboo, perhaps something in the 6 to 10 foot range in my back
> yard. After realizing some of the problems I've now changed the
> plan. Does anyone care to share their experiences or opinions of
> attempting to grow bamboo in a large pot, say 2 or 3 feet in
> diameter? It seems this would prevent the spreading, and it
> could be relocated whenever I want a different look in the
> garden. Zone 8.
>
> ==>Shamu
--
Bye.
Quisquarles Meglyn Alpha Plieadese-Pimor
aka Madame Mim
aka Sarax (trader on SB Omega)
aka Megan <meg...@chariot.net.au>
I get serious letters from university students, asking questions for a
project they are doing - these are not much different from those I get
from school-children (written in green crayon), except the writing is a
little worse.
-- Terry Pratchett, Warwick Uni (10.11.94) at
http://www.au.lspace.org/Lspace/books/pqf/alt-fan-pratchett.html
Ribes60 wrote:
> Plant it if you want it, when you want to get rid of plant Kudzu around it.
>
> Ed in PA
What do you plant around the kudzu. Oh ya, ivy.
"I don't know why she swallowed a fly,"
Karl Seiler
[cropped]
And I said:
> I am rather saddened that sometimes people get frightened of
> something just because of a few well intentioned but inaccurate
> statements.
>
> There are a number of bamboo varities some of which spread and
> most which do not. However, the comments so far seem to instil in
> people that bamboo is a curse and should be avoided at all costs.
> Unfortunate.
>
> Sometime last year there was an excellent article in Gardening
> Australia dealing with bamboo and written by someone in Queensland
> whose livelihood in all dealing with bamboo (including making
> furniture etc from it). I can go searching in my stack of this
> magazine to find the appropriate issue if I am asked.
[rest deleted]
A follow-up to what I said above.
In response to what I wrote (above) I received an e-mail from America (North
Carolina) asking for help with a project. I am no bamboo expert and therefore
could not help but this kind e-mail prompted me to do some "investigating". I
present the results for the benefit of readers who either think that bamboo is
a damn curse or a most useful plant.
My recent comments on the bamboo "debate" were the result of reading about the
plant, and the most recent article I read about bamboo appeared in the March
1997 issue of Gardening Australia magazine. The article was by Colin Campbell
who visited the BAMBOO WORLD nursery, in Wadeville (near Lismore) NSW, owned
by Victor Cusack and Diedre Stewart.
Following the e-mail from Nth Carolina I dug out the article and finding no
e-mail address (or phone number) for the Bamboo World I obtained the phone
number from Telstra - and spoke to Victor Cusack.
Victor told me that he has published a book called BAMBOO WORLD which is
available from bookstores here in Australia for $15, or mailed out for $18
(for $20 you also get some additional information the nature of which I forgot
:-().
The book is to be released soon in America. Victor has been invited to give a
series of lectures on the bamboo and its uses (furniture, housing, etc.) in
America and Hawaii.
If you are unable to obtain the book at your local bookshop, or if you live
oversea, you can obtain the book direct by sending an e-mail to
who will then post it to you ($AU18, remember). They accept credit cards.
(earthcare is the internet e-mail address of Earthware Enterprises, PO Box
500, Maleny, Queensland 4552. They may even have a website but I do not know.)
For all those North American readers of this newsgroup interested in bamboo,
Victor suggested that you get in touch with the AMERICAN BAMBOO SOCIETY which
has chapters all over the USA.
So, if you want answers about the bamboo get in touch with Bamboo World (their
phone number for Australian readers is: 02 6689 7214; mail address: Bamboo
World, Murwillumbah Road, Wadeville, NSW 2474) or read the article in the
March issue of the Gardening Australia magazine.
The bamboo that requires control is the MONOPODIAL type (it is the "running"
type); the other type is called SYMPODIAL which clumps and nothing else.
One additional comment to what I may have said before: the "running" type
bamboo requires some sort of a barrier which goes down at least 1 metre (39
inches) deep and also to be above ground (I think I was talking about
something like 300-500mm [12-20 inches] deep). Also, if grown in containers
then the container must be set on a hard surface or sit in a saucer to prevent
any roots growing through the drainiage holes gaining access to any
surrounding soil.
Regards, Nicholas Reese
At least you all don't have that dam stuff Kudzu to contend with. Now
that is a problem if there ever was any. Everything under the sun has
been tried except for maybe an atomic bomb, to get this plant out of
the south!
foxeye
On 28 Feb 1998 01:54:06 GMT, bande...@aol.com (BAnders778) wrote:
>I asked at two or three gardening centers how to get rid of the creeping bamboo
>in my yard. The usual response was "Dig a hole ten feet deep and pour concrete
>in it as a barrier." I pull up bamboo every year and it just keeps coming back
>in the same places every year.
>BAnde...@aol.com
>Raleigh, NC
>Do not covet your neighbors' yards. You might inherit their weeds.
The opinions expressed are mine, and mine alone.
My wife had no input whatsoever. Remove the www
from email address to send email. NAR #70031
and here i am in deer country loving bamboo - one of the plants that stays green over the
winter - provides an attractive looking plant - and deer don't eat.