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Melissa

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Jul 15, 2005, 10:53:23 PM7/15/05
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Anyone know what these are? They grow wild around here.
http://dim.com/~melissa/photos/What%20is%20this%20weed%20flower.JPG


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Phred

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Jul 15, 2005, 11:14:46 PM7/15/05
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:53:23 -0500, Melissa <mel...@Colorado.xxx>
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Looks like some kind of wild Lily? We have the same shape and type
flower here called Tiger Lilys, but are orange color. Nice flower
anyway. I would keep them unless they are raiding the garden. They do
tend to spread loosly...

Freddie

Melissa

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Jul 16, 2005, 12:13:44 AM7/16/05
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Phred <Ph...@nospam.com> wrote :

They're not big enough for lilies, are they? Tese flowers are
maybe 1/2" long.

Paulo da Costa

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Jul 16, 2005, 12:39:01 AM7/16/05
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Melissa wrote:
> Phred <Ph...@nospam.com> wrote :
>
>>On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:53:23 -0500, Melissa
>><mel...@Colorado.xxx> scribed:
>>
>> Looks like some kind of wild Lily? We have the same shape and type
>> flower here called Tiger Lilys, but are orange color. Nice flower
>> anyway. I would keep them unless they are raiding the garden. They
>> do tend to spread loosly...
>>
>>> Anyone know what these are? They grow wild around here.
>>> http://dim.com/~melissa/photos/What%20is%20this%20weed%20flower
>>> .JPG
>
> They're not big enough for lilies, are they? Tese flowers are
> maybe 1/2" long.

Lilies have six petals, not five. This looks like a bellflower (Campanula).

Cereus-validus.......

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Jul 16, 2005, 2:38:15 AM7/16/05
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Campanula rapunculoides

Its an attractive but aggressive weedy species introduced from Europe. It is
not a native wildflower.

http://images.google.com/images?q=campanula+rapunculoides&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images


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Cereus-validus.......

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Jul 16, 2005, 2:42:06 AM7/16/05
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If you don't know enough basic botany to be able to distinguish a dicot from
a monocot, you should not be guessing the ID of plants. There is absolutely
nothing liliaceous about the plant. Its a Campanula.


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presley

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Jul 16, 2005, 2:53:52 AM7/16/05
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RUN RUN RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
Campanula rampunculoides - often called cancer of the garden. It will send
tiny tendrils through the soil 10 feet or more. Pulling up the leaf on top
will only encourage it to send up leaves from any point along the root.

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Ann

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Jul 16, 2005, 5:53:39 AM7/16/05
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"presley" <gregp...@netzero.com> expounded:

>RUN RUN RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
>Campanula rampunculoides - often called cancer of the garden. It will send
>tiny tendrils through the soil 10 feet or more. Pulling up the leaf on top
>will only encourage it to send up leaves from any point along the root.

Absolutely. I hate that damned thing. It came in with a peony from
my mother's garden - I've been battling it ever since. It has a huge
root way down deep, unless you get that, it'll keep coming back.
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Melissa

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Jul 16, 2005, 9:50:25 PM7/16/05
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Ann <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote :

> "presley" <gregp...@netzero.com> expounded:
>
>>RUN RUN RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
>>Campanula rampunculoides - often called cancer of the garden.
>>It will send tiny tendrils through the soil 10 feet or more.
>>Pulling up the leaf on top will only encourage it to send up
>>leaves from any point along the root.
>
> Absolutely. I hate that damned thing. It came in with a
> peony from my mother's garden - I've been battling it ever
> since. It has a huge root way down deep, unless you get that,
> it'll keep coming back.


Thanks guys, it's growing wild all over the neighborhood, and
it's very pretty.

Popcorn Lover

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Jul 16, 2005, 9:57:32 PM7/16/05
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"Cereus-validus......." <fashizzle...@spam.net> wrote :

> Campanula rapunculoides

So how can someone bring it from the neighbor's lawn, to their own
yard?


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Ann

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Jul 17, 2005, 7:43:26 AM7/17/05
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Popcorn Lover <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> expounded:

>So how can someone bring it from the neighbor's lawn, to their own
>yard?

Why would anyone want to? This plant is horribly invasive and almost
impossible to irradicate.

Popcorn Lover

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Jul 17, 2005, 2:23:40 PM7/17/05
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Ann <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote :

> Popcorn Lover <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> expounded:
>
>>So how can someone bring it from the neighbor's lawn, to their
>>own yard?
>
> Why would anyone want to? This plant is horribly invasive and
> almost impossible to irradicate.

If it's all over the neighborhood already and they think it's
pretty, they would want it.

Ann

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Jul 17, 2005, 9:39:29 PM7/17/05
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Popcorn Lover <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> expounded:

>If it's all over the neighborhood already and they think it's
>pretty, they would want it.

Education is key. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Purple
loosestrife is 'pretty' yet it's decimating our native wetland plants,
like Lobelia cardinalis, the cardinal flower. I just hate to see
anyone spread such an invasive plant.

Popcorn Lover

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Jul 18, 2005, 1:04:54 AM7/18/05
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Ann <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote :

> Popcorn Lover <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> expounded:
>
>>If it's all over the neighborhood already and they think it's
>>pretty, they would want it.
>
> Education is key. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
> Purple loosestrife is 'pretty' yet it's decimating our native
> wetland plants, like Lobelia cardinalis, the cardinal flower.
> I just hate to see anyone spread such an invasive plant.

This isn't the wilds, it's the burbs of Lakewood, Colorado.

enigma

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Jul 19, 2005, 10:00:03 PM7/19/05
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Popcorn Lover <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> wrote in
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> Ann <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote :
>
>> Popcorn Lover <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> expounded:
>>
>>>If it's all over the neighborhood already and they think
>>>it's pretty, they would want it.
>>
>> Education is key. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
>> Purple loosestrife is 'pretty' yet it's decimating our
>> native wetland plants, like Lobelia cardinalis, the
>> cardinal flower. I just hate to see anyone spread such an
>> invasive plant.
>
> This isn't the wilds, it's the burbs of Lakewood, Colorado.

right. and it's an *invasive* plant. the point being that you
canNOT control it's spread. you may think it's pretty, but
will your neighbors? how about the people in the next town
over? or in the next state? you can't keep it from invading
the wild.
and yes, invasive weeds *do* travel that far. purple
loosestrife expands it's range at something like 25
miles/year.
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Popcorn Lover

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Jul 19, 2005, 10:31:59 PM7/19/05
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enigma <eni...@empire.net> wrote :

> Popcorn Lover <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> wrote in
> news:Xns9696EAD08A757...@216.196.97.142:
>
>> Ann <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote :
>>
>>> Popcorn Lover <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> expounded:
>>>
>>>>If it's all over the neighborhood already and they think
>>>>it's pretty, they would want it.
>>>
>>> Education is key. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
>>> Purple loosestrife is 'pretty' yet it's decimating our
>>> native wetland plants, like Lobelia cardinalis, the
>>> cardinal flower. I just hate to see anyone spread such an
>>> invasive plant.
>>
>> This isn't the wilds, it's the burbs of Lakewood, Colorado.
>
> right. and it's an *invasive* plant. the point being that you
> canNOT control it's spread.

So what. The world is full of such plants. We have a pretty red-
flowering purslane planted in the garden. So what?

If I wanted, I could plant bamboo that would be "invasive". So
what?

Invasive is just a hardy plant that someone else doesn't like.

> you may think it's pretty, but
> will your neighbors?

Not my problem. I worry about my property.

> how about the people in the next town
> over? or in the next state? you can't keep it from invading
> the wild.

Well here in Colorado the cold weather does a decent job of that.
I'm hardly worried that something is gonna take over the whole
world from my backyard.

> and yes, invasive weeds *do* travel that far. purple
> loosestrife expands it's range at something like 25
> miles/year.

Cool. It's very pretty.

And it's already out there, there isn't a thing anyone can do
about it.

And I want some. :)

cat daddy

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:03:44 PM7/19/05
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"Popcorn Lover" <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> wrote in message
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> enigma <eni...@empire.net> wrote :
>
> > Popcorn Lover <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> wrote in
> > news:Xns9696EAD08A757...@216.196.97.142:
> >
> >> Ann <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote :
> >>
> >>> Popcorn Lover <pop...@N0-SPAM.COM> expounded:
> >>>
> >>>>If it's all over the neighborhood already and they think
> >>>>it's pretty, they would want it.
> >>>
> >>> Education is key. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
> >>> Purple loosestrife is 'pretty' yet it's decimating our
> >>> native wetland plants, like Lobelia cardinalis, the
> >>> cardinal flower. I just hate to see anyone spread such an
> >>> invasive plant.
> >>
> >> This isn't the wilds, it's the burbs of Lakewood, Colorado.

http://www.iisgcp.org/EXOTICSP/purple_loosestrife.htm
"Each mature plant produces 30 or more spikes and can produce over 2.5
million seeds per year. When purple loosestrife gets a foothold, the habitat
where fish and wildlife feed, seek shelter, reproduce and rear young,
quickly becomes choked under a sea of purple flowers."

> > right. and it's an *invasive* plant. the point being that you
> > canNOT control it's spread.
>
> So what. The world is full of such plants. We have a pretty red-
> flowering purslane planted in the garden. So what?

"The Purple Loosestrife is a very hardy perennial which can rapidly
degrade wetlands, diminishing their value for wildlife habitat. Wetlands are
the most biologically diverse, productive component of our ecosystem.
Hundreds of species of plants, birds, mammals, reptiles, insects, fish and
amphibians rely on healthy wetland habitat for their survival."


> If I wanted, I could plant bamboo that would be "invasive". So
> what?
>
> Invasive is just a hardy plant that someone else doesn't like.
>
> > you may think it's pretty, but
> > will your neighbors?
>
> Not my problem. I worry about my property.

"Purple loosestrife has had no problem spreading. One stalk can produce
up to 3,000,000 lightweight seeds with a very high germination rate. New
plants can even sprout from the roots or runners of other plants. Roadside
ditches serve as excellent habitats for this water loving plant. These
ditches also provide pathways between wetlands for the purple loosestrife to
travel, and spread through."

> > how about the people in the next town
> > over? or in the next state? you can't keep it from invading
> > the wild.
>
> Well here in Colorado the cold weather does a decent job of that.
> I'm hardly worried that something is gonna take over the whole
> world from my backyard.

http://www.iisgcp.org/EXOTICSP/images/loosestrife/map-NAPIS.gif

http://www.iisgcp.org/EXOTICSP/images/loosestrife/cornell.gif
Infested.

> > and yes, invasive weeds *do* travel that far. purple
> > loosestrife expands it's range at something like 25
> > miles/year.
>
> Cool. It's very pretty.
>
> And it's already out there, there isn't a thing anyone can do
> about it.
>
> And I want some. :)

Controlling the spread of purple loosestrife is crucial to protecting vital
fish, wildlife and native plant habitat!

YOU CAN HELP

REPORT Watch for purple loosestrife, and report locations where it is found
to the Department of Environmental Conservation, or/and Sea Grant Office.

Request Ask your local garden center or nursery to stop selling purple
loosestrife and its varieties (If you find it). Horticultural varieties of
purple loosestrife were once thought to be sterile, but recent studies have
shown that this is untrue.

PROPER DISPOSAL of plant material is important. Put all plant pieces in
plastic bags (vegetation rots quickly in plastic) and take the bags to a
sanitary landfill site. Be sure the landfill site doesn't require bags to be
broken open for composting. Composting is not advised, as purple loosestrife
seeds may not be destroyed and the thick, woody stem and roots take a long
time to decompose. If facilities exist in your area, incineration is an
effective way to dispose of plant material.


Replace Landscape with native plants instead of purple loosestrife.
Several colorful native plants thrive in the same habitat as purple
loosestrife. Examples which are readily available include:

Cardinal Flower (Lobelia cardinalis) produces a spike of brilliant scarlet
flowers.
Blueflag (Iris versicolor) is a native iris with large, showy, purple-
veined, blue flowers.
Monkey Flower (Mimulus ringens) has pairs of violet and yellow flowers
arranged along a tall stem.
Blue vervain (Verbena hastata) exhibits stunning spikes of blue flowers


Ann

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Jul 20, 2005, 5:28:18 AM7/20/05
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"cat daddy" <furball@.myhouse.com> expounded:

> "Each mature plant produces 30 or more spikes and can produce over 2.5
>million seeds per year. When purple loosestrife gets a foothold, the habitat
>where fish and wildlife feed, seek shelter, reproduce and rear young,
>quickly becomes choked under a sea of purple flowers."

Please note I brought up purple loosestrife. This poster wants to
grow Campanula rapunculoides and doesn't give a fig about how invasive
it is, nor does s/h/it care what it does to the surrounding
environment. Whatever. I hope they get it.....in spades! <BSEG>

cat daddy

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"Ann" <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> "cat daddy" <furball@.myhouse.com> expounded:
>
> > "Each mature plant produces 30 or more spikes and can produce over 2.5
> >million seeds per year. When purple loosestrife gets a foothold, the
habitat
> >where fish and wildlife feed, seek shelter, reproduce and rear young,
> >quickly becomes choked under a sea of purple flowers."
>
> Please note I brought up purple loosestrife. This poster wants to
> grow Campanula rapunculoides and doesn't give a fig about how invasive
> it is, nor does s/h/it care what it does to the surrounding
> environment. Whatever. I hope they get it.....in spades! <BSEG>

Okay. I guess this points to the importance of proper quoting and
attributions. Nevertheless, it was shocking to find that some nurseries
actually sell purple loosestrife and the importance of knowing invasive pest
species, whether "everyone's growing it" or not. I learned something.


Popcorn Lover

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Jul 20, 2005, 4:07:43 PM7/20/05
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"cat daddy" <furball@.myhouse.com> wrote :

> Replace Landscape with native plants instead of purple
> loosestrife.
> Several colorful native plants thrive in the same habitat as
> purple loosestrife. Examples which are readily available
> include:
>
> Cardinal Flower (Lobelia cardinalis) produces a spike of
> brilliant scarlet flowers.
> Blueflag (Iris versicolor) is a native iris with large, showy,
> purple- veined, blue flowers.
> Monkey Flower (Mimulus ringens) has pairs of violet and yellow
> flowers arranged along a tall stem.
> Blue vervain (Verbena hastata) exhibits stunning spikes of
> blue flowers

Ok, thanks for the interesting post, I'll change my mind.

Popcorn Lover

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Jul 20, 2005, 4:11:36 PM7/20/05
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Ann <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote :

> "cat daddy" <furball@.myhouse.com> expounded:
>
>> "Each mature plant produces 30 or more spikes and can produce
>> over 2.5
>>million seeds per year. When purple loosestrife gets a
>>foothold, the habitat where fish and wildlife feed, seek
>>shelter, reproduce and rear young, quickly becomes choked
>>under a sea of purple flowers."
>
> Please note I brought up purple loosestrife. This poster
> wants to grow Campanula rapunculoides and doesn't give a fig
> about how invasive it is, nor does s/h/it care what it does to
> the surrounding environment. Whatever. I hope they get
> it.....in spades! <BSEG>

Oh wait, you mean it wasn't even the same thing? Jeez!

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