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Melissa

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Oct 23, 2003, 7:55:51 PM10/23/03
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I have some potted indoor plants and every time we water them, we see gnats
flying around the house afterwards. ( even in winter )

Is there an organic way to get rid of them? Like maybe garlic powder in the
water I give them? Something that will kill the eggs without harming me?

What about spraying the soil in the pots with rubbing alcohol?

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Lar

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Oct 23, 2003, 8:21:23 PM10/23/03
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In article <Xns941DB669C...@206.124.0.13>,
Mel...@pagan.netk says...
:) Is there an organic way to get rid of them? Like maybe garlic powder in the
:) water I give them? Something that will kill the eggs without harming me?
:)
:)
There is a variety of BT that will be effective on gnat
larvae, or you can repot the plant in "clean" dirt.
water.
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Valkyrie

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Oct 23, 2003, 10:10:55 PM10/23/03
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Sprinkle the soil with cinnamon, the gnasty little gnats will magically
disappear. Works everytime.

Val
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Melissa

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Oct 24, 2003, 12:43:26 AM10/24/03
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"Valkyrie" <Yaw...@YahBetcha.org> saideth:

> Sprinkle the soil with cinnamon, the gnasty little gnats will magically
> disappear. Works everytime.

Hmm, would it dissolve in the plant water? If I put it in my watering can?

Melissa

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Oct 24, 2003, 12:43:44 AM10/24/03
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Lar <lar...@comcastBUGS.net> saideth:


> There is a variety of BT that will be effective on gnat
> larvae, or you can repot the plant in "clean" dirt.
> water.

BT?

Siberian Husky

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Oct 24, 2003, 2:22:40 AM10/24/03
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Melissa <Mel...@pagan.netk> wrote in message news:<Xns941DB669C...@206.124.0.13>...
> I have some potted indoor plants and every time we water them, we see gnats
> flying around the house afterwards. ( even in winter )
>
> Is there an organic way to get rid of them? Like maybe garlic powder in the
> water I give them? Something that will kill the eggs without harming me?
>
> What about spraying the soil in the pots with rubbing alcohol?

I do not think this is a good idea, for long term. Rubbing alcohol
spraying might always leave blind spots, and I do not know what could
happen to your plants.

BT means Bacillus thuringiensis. Check out
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/plantanswers/earthkind/ekgarden25.html
for more info. It basically kills worms and larvae.

I do not think cinamon powder dissolves in water -- if you have tried
sprinkling them over your Capuccino. They seem to tend to float on
the water.

If everything fails, I think you can try growing Pings beside your
indoor plants. Pings -- also known as butterwort (Pinguicula), is a
kind of carnivorous plant whose leaves act like living fly papers. I
used to grow my Pings in my office, and I do not know how effective it
is for gnats for homes, but I do not think it brings any negative
impacts either.

Valkyrie

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Oct 24, 2003, 2:28:05 AM10/24/03
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You don't need to make it complicated. Just get your little can, or jar of
cinnamon and sprinkle it on the soil. Done deal, real easy. You need to put
that watering can away for awhile, that's one of the big reasons you have
them, they are fungus gnats.

Val
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Stan Moore

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Oct 24, 2003, 7:54:47 AM10/24/03
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Melissa you can use the product Houseplant and Garden Spray and the best
thing to do is water a bunch and spray them as the come out it works great.
you can find the product here:


http://www.merrifieldgardencenter.com/products.php?pid=939

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Oct 24, 2003, 8:28:19 AM10/24/03
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its a bacteria..its used in those mosquito dunks..just do a google search
for "BT +pesticide" its organic :)

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Lar

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Oct 24, 2003, 10:02:30 AM10/24/03
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In article <Xns941DE7385E...@206.124.0.13>,
Mel...@pagan.netk says...
:) > There is a variety of BT that will be effective on gnat
:) > larvae, or you can repot the plant in "clean" dirt.
:) > water.
:)
:) BT?
:)
:)
:) Bacillus thuringiensis (BT) if a bacteria that
attacks different insects...some varieties attack
different flies (mosquitos, gnats) others will target
caterpillars and another beetle.

http://www.ghorganics.com/BTI_For_Fungus_Gnats.htm

Lar

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Oct 24, 2003, 10:06:30 AM10/24/03
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In article <3f99130b$1...@Usenet.com>,
st...@skullblocks.com says...
:) Melissa you can use the product Houseplant and Garden Spray and the best
:) thing to do is water a bunch and spray them as the come out it works great.
:) you can find the product here:
:)
:)
:)
The problem treating this way is you won't stop the
source so it is a continual problem. You may reduce the
number of adults greatly but they will return. The way
to stop the problem altogether by getting to the source.
And then watch the watering habits for the plant.

Sam

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Oct 24, 2003, 6:33:50 PM10/24/03
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cinnamon is the way to go, it really does work, than slow up on the
watering.

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Along the Grand Strand of Myrtle Beach,SC
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Valkyrie

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Oct 24, 2003, 8:23:07 PM10/24/03
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" Sam" <w4...@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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> cinnamon is the way to go, it really does work, than slow up on the
> watering.
>
> --
> Sam

Fergidaboudit Sam. If it isn't complicated, come with an MSDS sheet, is
preferably expensive and hard to find she ain't gonna pay attention.
Nevermind that Melissa could grab some cinnamon out of the cupboard and give
a good sprinkle on the surface of the soil of her infested plants and POOF
her gnats would be gone, literally in minutes. Perhaps if we had given her
dance steps, incantations, costly and rare equipment to procure and
complicated instructions for administering this exotic remedy she'd have
gone for it............go figure.

Val


zhanataya

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Oct 24, 2003, 10:56:34 PM10/24/03
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On 23 Oct 2003 17:55:51 -0600, Melissa <Mel...@pagan.netk> wrote:

>Is there an organic way to get rid of them? Like maybe garlic powder in the
>water I give them? Something that will kill the eggs without harming me?


Drench with Gnatrol.

zhan

Melissa

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Oct 24, 2003, 11:10:43 PM10/24/03
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"Valkyrie" <Yaw...@YahBetcha.org> saideth:

> You don't need to make it complicated. Just get your little can, or jar
of
> cinnamon and sprinkle it on the soil. Done deal, real easy. You need to
put
> that watering can away for awhile, that's one of the big reasons you have
> them, they are fungus gnats.

No, I use a water meter and only water when the plants get dry. This is
Colorado, not much fungus around here.

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Tina Gibson

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Oct 25, 2003, 9:37:09 AM10/25/03
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"Melissa" <Mel...@pagan.netk> wrote in message
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> "Valkyrie" <Yaw...@YahBetcha.org> saideth:
>
> > You don't need to make it complicated. Just get your little can, or jar
> of
> > cinnamon and sprinkle it on the soil. Done deal, real easy. You need to
> put
> > that watering can away for awhile, that's one of the big reasons you
have
> > them, they are fungus gnats.
>
> No, I use a water meter and only water when the plants get dry. This is
> Colorado, not much fungus around here.
>
There is fungus everywhere - if it isn't growing in Colorado I would move -
and fast
Tina


Salty Thumb

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Oct 25, 2003, 12:01:51 PM10/25/03
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Melissa <Mel...@pagan.netk> wrote in news:Xns941ED774B6573MN0SPAMCOM@
206.124.0.13:

> "Valkyrie" <Yaw...@YahBetcha.org> saideth:
>
>> You don't need to make it complicated. Just get your little can, or jar
>> of cinnamon and sprinkle it on the soil. Done deal, real easy. You need
>> to put that watering can away for awhile, that's one of the big reasons
>> you have them, they are fungus gnats.
>
> No, I use a water meter and only water when the plants get dry. This is
> Colorado, not much fungus around here.
>

There was paper published in Nature or Science last month detailing the
surprising amount of fungal activity (during winter no less) under
Coloradan snow covers.

Salty Thumb

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Oct 25, 2003, 12:28:29 PM10/25/03
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"Valkyrie" <Yaw...@YahBetcha.org> wrote in
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get rid of gnats procedure (I have not tried this myself, but here you
go)

what you need:
fixed (non oscillating fan)
standard ductwork (either 3x10 rect or round will be fine)
back flow damper for duct
cardboard box(es)
table
hungry and/or curious people
several dozen apple cinammon doughnuts

1 partition an area using the cardboard boxes
2 obscure the view to the inside so that it can only be seen by peering
though an opening in the cardboard boxes
3 create a wide mouthed chute directly in front of the box opening. make
sure it's immovable and that an average sized person will have to bend to
peer through the opening
4 connect the chute to the back flow damper and damper to a Y in the
ductwork
5 connect the other side of the Y to a duct leading to the fan
6 route the end of the Y so that the duct rests on the pot of the plant
with the fungus problem
7 turn the fan on and put some doughnuts on a table next to the chute
8 keep buying doughnuts until there are no more fungus gnats

You may need some manual adjustments for fan pressure or duct routing.

This will probably get rid of your fungus gnats, but you may have a
cockroach problem afterwards. You may also find policemen strangely
attracted to the area.

-- S

Tina Gibson

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Oct 25, 2003, 3:30:19 PM10/25/03
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"Salty Thumb" <sa...@notsogreenthumb.fake> wrote in message
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Actually I believe you have to be licensed in the state of Colorado for this
type of extermination exercise - and don't forget to apply for the permit
that will allow you to install the proper piping and ductwork required. This
may require moving your house to the proper building zone area. Tina


Salty Thumb

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Oct 25, 2003, 5:24:28 PM10/25/03
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"Tina Gibson" <gibs...@shaw.ca> wrote in
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oh well ... back to the drawing board. :-)

- ST

P.S. Colorado fungus story:
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/22127/story.htm

Pam - gardengal

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Oct 27, 2003, 12:52:22 PM10/27/03
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"Melissa" <Mel...@pagan.netk> wrote in message
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> "Valkyrie" <Yaw...@YahBetcha.org> saideth:
>
> > You don't need to make it complicated. Just get your little can, or jar
> of
> > cinnamon and sprinkle it on the soil. Done deal, real easy. You need to
> put
> > that watering can away for awhile, that's one of the big reasons you
have
> > them, they are fungus gnats.
>
> No, I use a water meter and only water when the plants get dry. This is
> Colorado, not much fungus around here.

You asked for advice so why the argument? Water meters are notoriously
ineffective and potting soil for houseplants tends to be very moisture
retentive anyway. For a totally non-chemical approach, repot the plants in
fresh soil, back off on the watering and place a thin layer of coarse sand
(aquarium sand works well) on the top of the soil. The gnats are disinclined
to lay their eggs on the sand. Fungus gnats are extremely common in
houseplants and this is SOP for their control

BTW, there are fungal spores everywhere, Colorado included.

pam - gardengal


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