Find out what Plant Hardiness ZONE you are in (Canada, US and Europe)
John A. Ells
http://map1.agr.ca/scripts/esrimap.dll?name=Plant2000&Cmd=Map&Lang=En
United States: http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/ushzmap.html
Europe: http://www.marblenet.es/pjse/mapuse.htm
The Canadian link allows you to zoom in many times. If you zoom in enough
you will see town and city names to help place yourself.
The US link is a bit more generalized with only one zoom. unless you can
place yourself on a map it is going to be hard to pinpoint yourself. Maybe
some US readers know of a more sophisticated website (similar to the
Canadian one ... check it out).
The Europe link is WYSIWYG. Not much detail and no zooming.
Tsu Dho Nimh
>United States: http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/ushzmap.html
Unfortunately, the USDA zones are based solely on "Average
Annual Minimum Temperature", with nothing at all about maximum
summer temps, humidity, or rainfall. It's just an estimate of any
plant's chances of freezing to death.
Fort Pierce, Florida (between Miami and Daytona Beach) is
listed as one of their examples for Zone 9b, and Phoenix, AZ is
also "9b" ...
When was the last time Fort Pierce had a weeks-long stretch of
110+ days with average humidity under 15%? We were humid this AM
at 23%, but it will drop to around 10 as the day warms up. And
looking at Fort Pierce's forecast ... their HIGH temperature is
somewhere near our predicted LOW temp for this week, and we
haven't seen any temps as low as their low for quite a while.
Tsu Dho Nimh
It is my job to completely create professional technology
in order that we may seamlessly supply competitive data.
Suja
Tsu Dho Nimh wrote:
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>
> When was the last time Fort Pierce had a weeks-long stretch of
> 110+ days with average humidity under 15%? We were humid this AM
> at 23%, but it will drop to around 10 as the day warms up. And
> looking at Fort Pierce's forecast ... their HIGH temperature is
> somewhere near our predicted LOW temp for this week, and we
> haven't seen any temps as low as their low for quite a while.
>
Are the Sunset zones any better?
Wanna trade your weather for temp at 100 degrees + 70 % humidity +
horrible air quality? And, it's only June :-)
Suja
Tsu Dho Nimh
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>Tsu Dho Nimh wrote:
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>>
>> When was the last time Fort Pierce had a weeks-long stretch of
>> 110+ days with average humidity under 15%? We were humid this AM
>> at 23%, but it will drop to around 10 as the day warms up. And
>> looking at Fort Pierce's forecast ... their HIGH temperature is
>> somewhere near our predicted LOW temp for this week, and we
>> haven't seen any temps as low as their low for quite a while.
>>
>
>Are the Sunset zones any better?
For accuracy in what will grow there, much better. For living
in ... Zone 13 also includes Hades.
Tyra Trevellyn
Code to get your zone.
http://www.arborday.org/trees/whatzone.html
The site indicates that it provides appropriate zoning for micro-climates that
are too small for maps. Excellent, because I've now got a new and more logical
zone designation.....and henceforth shall sign my posts
Tyra
z7 nNJ usa
and will also be less amazed at what winters over in my garden.
Suja
Tyra Trevellyn wrote:
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> The site indicates that it provides appropriate zoning for micro-climates that
> are too small for maps. Excellent, because I've now got a new and more logical
> zone designation.....and henceforth shall sign my posts
You know, I didn't check out the site properly when I posted it to
another thread. I put in two different locations in Northern VA that
I've lived in, and it gave two different zones. The two cities are only
10 or so miles apart! The microclimate thing might explain the
variance. Oh, I still can't believe that you're in a warmer zone than I
am :-)
Suja
Tsu Dho Nimh
>Hey, I just checked the National Arbor Day site, at which you key in your Zip
>Code to get your zone.
>http://www.arborday.org/trees/whatzone.html
Interesting, but needs work ... it has me in Zone 10, along with
Miami Florida, but if I enter the ZIP of my PO box, just 1.5
miles away it puts me in Zone 9, and if I try another local zip,
I'm in zones 9 AND 10. And it's suggesting stuff that wouldn't
grow here very well, if at all, such as camellias, dogwoods, and
magnolias.
>The site indicates that it provides appropriate zoning for micro-climates that
>are too small for maps.
No, they say they can't handle microclimates with their zip-code
based system.
"If it looks on the map like your zip code should be in a
different hardiness zone than the one we provide for you, your
zip code is probably in a microclimate that is too small to
represent on the map." If we have a zone 10 microclimate in
Phoenix, that's news to us.
Tyra Trevellyn
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>tyra...@aol.comnoway (Tyra Trevellyn) wrote:
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>>Hey, I just checked the National Arbor Day site, at which you key in your
>Zip
>>Code to get your zone.
>>http://www.arborday.org/trees/whatzone.html
>
>Interesting, but needs work ... it has me in Zone 10, along with
>Miami Florida, but if I enter the ZIP of my PO box, just 1.5
>miles away it puts me in Zone 9, and if I try another local zip,
>I'm in zones 9 AND 10. And it's suggesting stuff that wouldn't
>grow here very well, if at all, such as camellias, dogwoods, and
>magnolias.
>
>>The site indicates that it provides appropriate zoning for micro-climates
>that
>>are too small for maps.
>
>No, they say they can't handle microclimates with their zip-code
>based system.
>
>"If it looks on the map like your zip code should be in a
>different hardiness zone than the one we provide for you, your
>zip code is probably in a microclimate that is too small to
>represent on the map." If we have a zone 10 microclimate in
>Phoenix, that's news to us.
>
TDN...
Please read that again, because I still read that to mean that they believe
they're presenting hardiness zones based on microclimates that are too small to
represent on the map. That's what happened when I went there....I saw the map,
and said to myself "hey, they got it wrong....I'm way up there in northern
NJ," and then I went back to the text and read the sentence you quoted above.
Not that they've got it all right, of course. I'm wondering how and from where
they collected data, for how long, etc.
Best,
Tyra
z7-ish
nNJ ua
Tsu Dho Nimh
>Tsu Dho Nimh aba...@hotmail.com wrote:
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>>tyra...@aol.comnoway (Tyra Trevellyn) wrote:
>>
>>>Hey, I just checked the National Arbor Day site, at which you key in your
>>Zip
>>>Code to get your zone.
>>>http://www.arborday.org/trees/whatzone.html
>>
>>Interesting, but needs work ... it has me in Zone 10, along with
>>Miami Florida, but if I enter the ZIP of my PO box, just 1.5
>>miles away it puts me in Zone 9, and if I try another local zip,
>>I'm in zones 9 AND 10. And it's suggesting stuff that wouldn't
>>grow here very well, if at all, such as camellias, dogwoods, and
>>magnolias.
>>
>>>The site indicates that it provides appropriate zoning for micro-climates
>>that
>>>are too small for maps.
>
>>
>>No, they say they can't handle microclimates with their zip-code
>>based system.
>>
>>"If it looks on the map like your zip code should be in a
>>different hardiness zone than the one we provide for you, your
>>zip code is probably in a microclimate that is too small to
>>represent on the map." If we have a zone 10 microclimate in
>>Phoenix, that's news to us.
I said ... if we have a ZONE 10 microclimate in my neighborhood,
it's news to me.
>TDN...
>Please read that again, because I still read that to mean that they believe
>they're presenting hardiness zones based on microclimates that are too small to
>represent on the map.
Any zip code is too small to show on their map.
Tyra Trevellyn
You're absolutely right...of course it is, and they're not attempting to show
zip codes on their map, nor are they excusing themselves for not doing so.
Their map simply shows USDA zoning. What the Arbor Day Foundation is saying is
that they're providing us with zone numbers for zip codes that are *in*
microclimates too small to show on the USDA zoning map. So if, as they say,
there's a Zone 7 microclimate in my neck of the woods, which lies in a part of
the state usually assigned to Zone 6, that Zone 7 microclimate will not be seen
as a colored swath on that map.
Again, I agree with you that there's still some information that's lacking (or
wrong), but it's certainly been that way with USDA zoning and perhaps this is
just a slight improvement. Perhaps.
Best,
Tyra
in some zone or other
in northern New Jersey