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Removing 1.5 Acres of Bamboo in Towson, MD
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Elliott P
Feb 6, 2012, 11:54:09 AM2/6/12
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Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
*one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
restore the property, inside and out.
Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.
The property is in Towson, Maryland.
Thank you in advance.
stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
*one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
restore the property, inside and out.
Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.
The property is in Towson, Maryland.
Thank you in advance.
bob haller
Feb 6, 2012, 12:18:48 PM2/6/12
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basically a logger would clear the area for free, no cost to you and
they would sell the lumber to whoever would buy it
mj
Feb 6, 2012, 12:06:49 PM2/6/12
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Elliott P
Feb 6, 2012, 1:58:15 PM2/6/12
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it is too close to nearby homes and other woods.
Evan
Feb 6, 2012, 4:00:34 PM2/6/12
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On Feb 6, 11:54 am, Elliott P <elliott.pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is it considered a "wet land" ?
You should check with your nearest conservation/environmental
authorities to make sure you are allowed to cut all of that
natural vegetation down without some kind of site plan/impact
study done and having a permit hearing...
~~ Evan
Limp Arbor
Feb 6, 2012, 3:49:04 PM2/6/12
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On Feb 6, 11:54 am, Elliott P <elliott.pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
The initial cutting is the least of your problem. You'll then need to
'cut the grass' twice a week until it stops trying to grow back...
Sonny
Feb 6, 2012, 8:24:38 PM2/6/12
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Bamboo is a grass. You can chop it down, but it will sprout back
out. You either have to dig up the roots, also, or kill the plant
with a herbicide. Check with the nearest forest service, as they have
a potent enough tree killer that will do the job and only they are
allowed to use that herbicide. I doubt you can do that big of job,
yourself.
There is a highly potent tree killer, pretty expensive, for
consumers. I don't know the name, right off, but I can find out by
tomorrow, probably. You spray it about 18" above the ground and it
kills the plant. You might have trouble spraying the bamboo in the
interior of that big of patch, if it's so dense you can't navigate
within.
Once a herbcide is used and the plants die, you will still have the
task of removing the dead bamboo.
The roots are as deep as 1'. You'll have lots of digging to remove
all those roots, if you try to remove everything manually, while it's
still alive. If a herbicide is used to kill the above ground plant,
the roots can remain. They'll eventually decay. Tilling the dead
roots will speed their decaying.
Sonny
out. You either have to dig up the roots, also, or kill the plant
with a herbicide. Check with the nearest forest service, as they have
a potent enough tree killer that will do the job and only they are
allowed to use that herbicide. I doubt you can do that big of job,
yourself.
There is a highly potent tree killer, pretty expensive, for
consumers. I don't know the name, right off, but I can find out by
tomorrow, probably. You spray it about 18" above the ground and it
kills the plant. You might have trouble spraying the bamboo in the
interior of that big of patch, if it's so dense you can't navigate
within.
Once a herbcide is used and the plants die, you will still have the
task of removing the dead bamboo.
The roots are as deep as 1'. You'll have lots of digging to remove
all those roots, if you try to remove everything manually, while it's
still alive. If a herbicide is used to kill the above ground plant,
the roots can remain. They'll eventually decay. Tilling the dead
roots will speed their decaying.
Sonny
Bob F
Feb 7, 2012, 12:30:52 AM2/7/12
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DD_BobK
Feb 7, 2012, 1:38:13 AM2/7/12
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http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/growgreen/downloads/bamboo_running.pdf
http://www.ag.auburn.edu/hort/landscape/bamboo.html
Depending on the species,
your bamboo forest could yield 50,000 to 100,000 pounds of dry timber
per acre.
From second link.......
ERADICATING BAMBOO.
Bamboo can be eradicated by several methods:
1. Graze it with cattle during the summer. If the plants are so large
that cattle cannot bend them over to graze the leaves, they should be
cut and the cattle allowed to graze the new plants as they emerge.
2. Cut the old plants in winter or early spring and the new shoots as
they emerge in the spring and summer. This will require cutting
several times.
3. Spray the area with a herbicide. Of the several tested at Auburn,
Sodium TCA (sodium salt of trichloroaecetic acid) gave best success.
This should be sprayed on the soil over the areas in which the bamboo
is growing at a rate of 50 pounds active ingredient in at least 100
gallons of water per acre. It is preferable to apply it in late winter
or early spring before new growth starts. Rain will carry the chemical
down to the root system and it will be absorbed. This will sterilize
the soil for about 90 days, so nothing should be planted on the area
until about June.
http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/plantfinder/IPM.asp?code=223&group=71&level=s
You can also kill bamboo by flooding the area and keeping it flooded
for a couple weeks.
I killed a very small area of bamboo (~2' x 2') by flooding.
Sounds like you have a fair amount of work ahead. :(
cheers
Bob
Ron
Feb 7, 2012, 1:51:51 AM2/7/12
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The Daring Dufas
Feb 7, 2012, 3:29:02 AM2/7/12
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TDD
Cheryl Isaak
Feb 7, 2012, 6:03:12 AM2/7/12
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Sonny
Feb 7, 2012, 9:19:10 AM2/7/12
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I received the info I earlier mentioned.
In the link DD_BobK gave, the Auburn link, there is mention of
yaupon. The herbicide of choice for yaupon is what my cousin used:
Garlon 4, made by Dow. Comes in 2.5 gallon containers (concentrate),
about $250 per container. Mix an 8% Garlon to diesel mix and spray
onto the bottom 20" of the bamboo. It is readily available to
consumers, so you don't need any special permits to purchase and use
it, as with the forest service's potent tree-killing herbicide. My
cousin, in Houston, purchased his Garlon 4 from Red River Chemicals.
You may have to Google for a source near you.
Once killed, you will still need to remove the dead bamboo stalks.
The roots can be left alone.... or tilled, for faster decomposition.
The coming new spring-time growth may be an excellent time for
spraying the bamboo. The new shoots will be prime for absorbing any
herbicide treatment. But note, you don't spray the leaves with the
Garlon. You spray the base/stalk of the plants, the bottom 20". New
sprouts may "qualify" as stalks.
Using concentrate RoundUp may work, also, i.e., spraying the leaves.
RoundUp may cost nearly as much as Garlon 4. You may have to test the
% mix to get the best results. For different species, different mixes
work best on the different plants.... usually a range from 5% to 10%,
which isn't too much of a range. When you have lots to spray, the
savings may make a difference, so you want to maximize your product.
Hope this helps.
Sonny
In the link DD_BobK gave, the Auburn link, there is mention of
yaupon. The herbicide of choice for yaupon is what my cousin used:
Garlon 4, made by Dow. Comes in 2.5 gallon containers (concentrate),
about $250 per container. Mix an 8% Garlon to diesel mix and spray
onto the bottom 20" of the bamboo. It is readily available to
consumers, so you don't need any special permits to purchase and use
it, as with the forest service's potent tree-killing herbicide. My
cousin, in Houston, purchased his Garlon 4 from Red River Chemicals.
You may have to Google for a source near you.
Once killed, you will still need to remove the dead bamboo stalks.
The roots can be left alone.... or tilled, for faster decomposition.
The coming new spring-time growth may be an excellent time for
spraying the bamboo. The new shoots will be prime for absorbing any
herbicide treatment. But note, you don't spray the leaves with the
Garlon. You spray the base/stalk of the plants, the bottom 20". New
sprouts may "qualify" as stalks.
Using concentrate RoundUp may work, also, i.e., spraying the leaves.
RoundUp may cost nearly as much as Garlon 4. You may have to test the
% mix to get the best results. For different species, different mixes
work best on the different plants.... usually a range from 5% to 10%,
which isn't too much of a range. When you have lots to spray, the
savings may make a difference, so you want to maximize your product.
Hope this helps.
Sonny
N8N
Feb 7, 2012, 9:21:11 AM2/7/12
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On Feb 6, 4:00 pm, Evan <evan.news.re...@earthlink.net> wrote:
things) but bamboo has never been native to Maryland to my
knowledge... you'd think the enviro types would be happy to see it
go.
nate
Brooklyn1
Feb 7, 2012, 10:25:43 AM2/7/12
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stronger. With six acres to tend you really need a decent sized
tractor anyway, something at least 40 HP. I already have the tractor
and a 5' tiller, also a 7' brush hog that depending on the bamboo
might knock it down. With the right equipment 1 1/2 acres is a
relatively small area for clearing. Were it me I might rent a flail
shredder. Then till, and rent a rake... with the tractor till deep
and then rake out the roots. You can hire an excavating company or
DIY. You don't indicate the type of bamboo; how thick/tall... photos
would help... it may need a crew with chain saws or a flail shredder
could do the job: http://www.woodsonline.com/flailShredders.aspx
This time of year a nearby farmer might do the job at a reasonable
price, I'd guestimate $2,000. But with bamboo there's no guarantee it
won't grow back... then I'd think you'd have to resort to a defolient,
probably several applications.
Sonny
Feb 7, 2012, 10:53:53 AM2/7/12
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I received an addendum to the herbicide treatment. Garlon 4 (and
RoundUp) can be mixed with water, also. Adding a little detergent to
the mix would allow for the herbicide to better adhere to the slick
bamboo stalk.
I wouldn't recommend using a bushhog or shredder to cut the bamboo.
Any knot or joint, left behind, would likely sprout. Running bamboo/
yaupon is a prolifically invasive grass specie.
You will have one heck of a job removing all the above ground bamboo
debris, no matter what you do to cut it. Do a little at a time.
It'll eventually get done, unless you can afford to do or have the
whole job done, at one time.
Sonny
RoundUp) can be mixed with water, also. Adding a little detergent to
the mix would allow for the herbicide to better adhere to the slick
bamboo stalk.
I wouldn't recommend using a bushhog or shredder to cut the bamboo.
Any knot or joint, left behind, would likely sprout. Running bamboo/
yaupon is a prolifically invasive grass specie.
You will have one heck of a job removing all the above ground bamboo
debris, no matter what you do to cut it. Do a little at a time.
It'll eventually get done, unless you can afford to do or have the
whole job done, at one time.
Sonny
denni...@gmail.com
Feb 7, 2012, 10:58:30 AM2/7/12
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On Feb 7, 1:51 am, Ron <BigELil...@msn.com> wrote:
> (rolling eyes)
Roll your eyes all you want but if the DEC catches on to what you're
doing, and it's not "legal," they can pretty much ruin you for life.
> (rolling eyes)
Roll your eyes all you want but if the DEC catches on to what you're
doing, and it's not "legal," they can pretty much ruin you for life.
Harry K
Feb 7, 2012, 11:00:32 AM2/7/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
I had the same reaction as Ron when I read that post.
I don't think it is native anywhere on the continent. but then I hae
been wrong once or twice in my life.
Harry K
Gunner
Feb 7, 2012, 10:47:56 AM2/7/12
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Bamboo is a grass so Roundup is not a very effective option.
The first thing to be done is ID the type bamboo,it may not be a
runner and the cure much easier.
Talk to your county Extention agent, they will be able to direct you
in the right direction and may have low cost options for you the land
owner.
The first thing to be done is ID the type bamboo,it may not be a
runner and the cure much easier.
Talk to your county Extention agent, they will be able to direct you
in the right direction and may have low cost options for you the land
owner.
Kay Lancaster
Feb 7, 2012, 11:42:03 AM2/7/12
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 08:54:09 -0800 (PST), Elliott P <elliot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
> stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
> *one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
> stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
> dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
> allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
> restore the property, inside and out.
Prepare for a multi-season struggle:
> stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
> *one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
> stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
> dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
> allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
> restore the property, inside and out.
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/chatham/ag/homehort/BambooControl.htm
There's a vast network of underground rhizomes that can sprout the second
you knock down the tops, and will keep on doing so as long as there is
stored starch in them. It will take a very long time to exhaust them
by purely physical control methods, so this is one of those cases where
physical and chemical controls may be required.
Always a good practice with trying to control something this firmly established:get an expert id on the weed first. If, for example, you've actually got
Japanese knotweed, sometimes called Japanese, American or Mexican bamboo,
there's a good possibility that the control measures could be different.
http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/plants/knotweed.shtml
http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/fact/pdf/faja1.pdf
Kay
David E. Ross
Feb 7, 2012, 12:26:50 PM2/7/12
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Climate: California Mediterranean, see
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David E. Ross
Feb 7, 2012, 12:40:43 PM2/7/12
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On 2/6/12 5:24 PM, Sonny wrote [in part]:
tree-killing herbicide.
There are herbicides that specifically target grass, killing both the
visible growth and also the roots but generally not damaging non-grass
plants. I use Grass Getter, but there are others. These are best used
when the grass is actively growing.
I suggest you have the area cleared. Any piece of bamboo remaining --
if it includes an internode (joint) -- can root and sprout. Thus, what
is cut must be hauled away
In the spring, fertilize the area well and make sure the soil remains
moist. When new bamboo shoots are about 1-2 ft high, spray with a
grass-killing herbicide mixed with some liquid soap. The soap ensures
that the spray really wets the bamboo. You might have to repeat this
treatment a few times. Be sure to treat any new shoots that grow beyond
the current patch; running bamboo can send its underground runners many
feet away from existing shoots.
> Bamboo is a grass. You can chop it down, but it will sprout back
> out. You either have to dig up the roots, also, or kill the plant
> with a herbicide. Check with the nearest forest service, as they have
> a potent enough tree killer that will do the job and only they are
> allowed to use that herbicide. I doubt you can do that big of job,
> yourself.
>
Yes, bamboo is a giant grass. However, you do not want to use a
> out. You either have to dig up the roots, also, or kill the plant
> with a herbicide. Check with the nearest forest service, as they have
> a potent enough tree killer that will do the job and only they are
> allowed to use that herbicide. I doubt you can do that big of job,
> yourself.
>
tree-killing herbicide.
There are herbicides that specifically target grass, killing both the
visible growth and also the roots but generally not damaging non-grass
plants. I use Grass Getter, but there are others. These are best used
when the grass is actively growing.
I suggest you have the area cleared. Any piece of bamboo remaining --
if it includes an internode (joint) -- can root and sprout. Thus, what
is cut must be hauled away
In the spring, fertilize the area well and make sure the soil remains
moist. When new bamboo shoots are about 1-2 ft high, spray with a
grass-killing herbicide mixed with some liquid soap. The soap ensures
that the spray really wets the bamboo. You might have to repeat this
treatment a few times. Be sure to treat any new shoots that grow beyond
the current patch; running bamboo can send its underground runners many
feet away from existing shoots.
Mysterious Traveler
Feb 7, 2012, 2:24:18 PM2/7/12
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on Ebay and see how much it sells for then think of how much you
can make. It's like money in the bank. People pay for something
you don't want.
--
Brooklyn1
Feb 7, 2012, 3:04:28 PM2/7/12
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Kay Lancaster
Feb 7, 2012, 5:42:03 PM2/7/12
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area: A. appalachiana, A. gigantea, and A. tecta. That's all we've got for
native bamboos. There are others in N America, in Mexico and Central America.
Mexico, for instance, has 8 genera and 35 species.
If you want to know more: http://herbarium.usu.edu/webmanual/
Kay
Red Green
Feb 7, 2012, 6:35:31 PM2/7/12
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songbird
Feb 7, 2012, 8:17:39 PM2/7/12
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Elliott P wrote:
...
i'd be calling around, there are likely
some people who'd want it, it does have
many uses.
flooring, fencing, roofing, matting, blinds,
walls, construction, musical instruments, food, ...
cheaper to get it locally than to import
it.
songbird
...
i'd be calling around, there are likely
some people who'd want it, it does have
many uses.
flooring, fencing, roofing, matting, blinds,
walls, construction, musical instruments, food, ...
cheaper to get it locally than to import
it.
songbird
David E. Ross
Feb 7, 2012, 10:40:50 PM2/7/12
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the bamboo genera fall within that subfamily.
David E. Ross
Feb 7, 2012, 10:49:20 PM2/7/12
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On 2/7/12 7:40 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 2/7/12 2:42 PM, Kay Lancaster wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:00:32 -0800 (PST), Harry K <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Feb 7, 6:21 am, N8N <njna...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think it is native anywhere on the continent. but then I hae
>>> been wrong once or twice in my life.
>>
>> There are 3 species of Arundinaria native to the US, all in the SE/Appalachia
>> area: A. appalachiana, A. gigantea, and A. tecta. That's all we've got for
>> native bamboos. There are others in N America, in Mexico and Central America.
>> Mexico, for instance, has 8 genera and 35 species.
>>
>> If you want to know more: http://herbarium.usu.edu/webmanual/
>>
>> Kay
>
> Actually, the Arundinoideae are not bamboos. They are reeds. None of
> the bamboo genera fall within that subfamily.
>
Oops! Arundinaria are NOT part of the Arundinoideae. Instead, they are
> On 2/7/12 2:42 PM, Kay Lancaster wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 08:00:32 -0800 (PST), Harry K <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Feb 7, 6:21 am, N8N <njna...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think it is native anywhere on the continent. but then I hae
>>> been wrong once or twice in my life.
>>
>> There are 3 species of Arundinaria native to the US, all in the SE/Appalachia
>> area: A. appalachiana, A. gigantea, and A. tecta. That's all we've got for
>> native bamboos. There are others in N America, in Mexico and Central America.
>> Mexico, for instance, has 8 genera and 35 species.
>>
>> If you want to know more: http://herbarium.usu.edu/webmanual/
>>
>> Kay
>
> Actually, the Arundinoideae are not bamboos. They are reeds. None of
> the bamboo genera fall within that subfamily.
>
indeed bamboos.
gregz
Feb 7, 2012, 11:08:55 PM2/7/12
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Elliott P <elliot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
> stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
> *one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
> stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
> dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
> allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
> restore the property, inside and out.
>
> Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
> this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
> with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
> commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
> can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
> would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.
>
> Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
> stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
> *one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
> stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
> dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
> allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
> restore the property, inside and out.
>
> Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
> this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
> with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
> commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
> can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
> would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.
>
> The property is in Towson, Maryland.
>
> Thank you in advance.
I'll bet the Amish could build some neat stuff with it.
>
> Thank you in advance.
Greg
JIMMIE
Feb 7, 2012, 11:40:40 PM2/7/12
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Some gift! I could mow it down and there were be 6 inch sprouts the
next day.
The lot was in town but my neighbor had goats on a little hobby farm
out in the country. We fenced in my lot and put the goats on it. It
took all summer and fall but the goats finally won out. A new job took
me out of state so I let my neighbor grow a garden on the lot until I
could sell it. Think it would take too many goats for yours.
Jimmie
Harry K
Feb 7, 2012, 11:26:04 PM2/7/12
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I don't see why it wouldn't work there as well.
Harry K
Elliott P
Feb 8, 2012, 12:28:12 AM2/8/12
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county would not be opposed to this, but would ask for grading permits
if we were to do any serious excavation. Just cutting it all down
wouldn't require any notice of the gov't. One of the neighbors
informed us that the old homeowner used to sell/give the bamboo to the
National Zoo for its Panda. No joke!
100,000 lbs is a lot of bamboo! I don't think that's far off though.
It is very dense, hard to walk through even, and the heights range
from 10 to 30 feet in spots. I'll get some pictures, its quite a sight
to see.
Theres a new problem of some possible underground utilities and maybe
a septic field amidst the bamboo. This could explain the rapid growth.
We'll have to use caution with mowers and tractors until we know where
that is.
Thanks again for all the responses thus far.
Kay Lancaster
Feb 8, 2012, 11:42:04 AM2/8/12
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["Followup-To:" header set to rec.gardens.]
you're confusing the two genera.
Arundinaria are the giant canes; they are found in N. America and S. Africa.
When you read about canebrakes, they're talking about big stands of Arundinaria.
Kay
>
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:40:50 -0800, David E. Ross <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> Actually, the Arundinoideae are not bamboos. They are reeds. None of
> the bamboo genera fall within that subfamily.
Arundo is in the Arundinoideae; Arundinaria is in the Bambusoideae. I think
> Actually, the Arundinoideae are not bamboos. They are reeds. None of
> the bamboo genera fall within that subfamily.
you're confusing the two genera.
Arundinaria are the giant canes; they are found in N. America and S. Africa.
When you read about canebrakes, they're talking about big stands of Arundinaria.
Kay
>
bob haller
Feb 8, 2012, 12:14:48 PM2/8/12
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why not leave the stand of bamboo by whatever name and resume donating
it to feed pandas or other zoo animals?
this equals less grass to cut:)
it to feed pandas or other zoo animals?
this equals less grass to cut:)
John Simpson
Feb 8, 2012, 4:18:33 PM2/8/12
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"Elliott P" wrote in message
news:b232d0b9-0551-4421...@b18g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
*one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
restore the property, inside and out.
Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.
The property is in Towson, Maryland.
Thank you in advance.
If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
It's REAL tough to get rid of!
JAS
news:b232d0b9-0551-4421...@b18g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
*one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
restore the property, inside and out.
Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.
The property is in Towson, Maryland.
Thank you in advance.
It's REAL tough to get rid of!
JAS
Home Guy
Feb 8, 2012, 4:29:09 PM2/8/12
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"Limp Arbor" <limp_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>They make great tomato stakes after they are cut down & dried.
>The initial cutting is the least of your problem. You'll then need to
>'cut the grass' twice a week until it stops trying to grow back...
I cane "beat" my wife & her grandmother with a chunk of it. You should see
granny try to wheel away from me when I get the big stick out. She gets it
twice as hard when she tries to make a break for it.
Kay Lancaster
Feb 8, 2012, 5:42:03 PM2/8/12
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Kay Lancaster
Feb 8, 2012, 5:42:03 PM2/8/12
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On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:49:20 -0800, David E. Ross <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> Oops! Arundinaria are NOT part of the Arundinoideae. Instead, they are
> indeed bamboos.
This came through after I found the initial statement... should have
> Oops! Arundinaria are NOT part of the Arundinoideae. Instead, they are
> indeed bamboos.
known you'd know when you stopped to think about it!
Kay
David E. Ross
Feb 8, 2012, 5:43:21 PM2/8/12
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grass-specific herbicides do not harm most broad-leaf plants.
With both herbicids and insecticides, I tend to favor the kinds that are
specific to the pest I'm trying to kill instead of killing everything in
the neighborhood. No, I'm not an organic gardener; I'm merely careful.
David E. Ross
Feb 8, 2012, 6:14:03 PM2/8/12
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On 2/8/12 1:18 PM, John Simpson wrote:
>
> If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
> It's REAL tough to get rid of!
>
> JAS
>
Both Wikipedia and Sunset's "Western Garden Book" indicate that Japanese
>
> If you're in MD, your 'bamboo' is most likely Japanese Knotweed.
> It's REAL tough to get rid of!
>
> JAS
>
knotweed is Persicaria capitata. This is a ground cover that, in my
garden, forms a mat about 6 inches thick. Through most (sometimes all)
of the year, it has small clusters of pink flowers that resemble the
flowers of white clover. For that reason, P. capitata is also called
pink clover although it is definitely not a clover at all.
However, Wikipedia also indicates that Japanese knotweed is also
Fallopia japonica (aka, Polygonum cuspidatum or Reynoutria japonica).
This indeed grows like a bamboo to 10 or more feet high. If this is
really what Elliott P has, a grass-specific herbicide will not work
because Fallopia japonica is not at all a grass.
All this illustrates the fact that many different, unlike plants often
share the same common name. This is why I try to use botanical names
when possible. This also illustrates why the plant should be positively
identified before any attempt to eradicate it. If a neighbor was
correct in reporting that this was cut for feeding pandas at a nearby
zoo, however, this must be a bamboo and not F. japonica.
Harry K
Feb 8, 2012, 11:25:37 PM2/8/12
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Time he gets it killed out he will be looking at bare ground no matter
what he uses.
Harry K
Gunner
Feb 9, 2012, 3:24:20 AM2/9/12
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On Feb 8, 2:43 pm, "David E. Ross" <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
by Dr. Joseph C. Neal, Weed Scientist
Department of Horticultural Science
North Carolina State University
"Too often I receive the following plea: "My neighbor planted bamboo
and now it is coming up all over my yard. I have tried to kill it and
nothing seems to work!. What can I do?" Bamboo is one of the most
difficult to control "escaped ornamentals." Once established, bamboo
can take over landscapes, stream banks, and woodlands. I have seen
bamboo shoots actually breaking though concrete driveways.
Unfortunately, postemergence herbicides such as Roundup seem to only
burn back the foliage, providing no real control. "
Elliott P
Feb 9, 2012, 9:03:29 AM2/9/12
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I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable
plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery here:
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/2745459/1/TowsonBamboo?h=d5ab39
I took these before posting this, therefore I don't have any close ups
of the leaves really. The first shows a fox I found running in there.
The next four are various angles, where you can see how massive these
are. There are also some in the snow, and then one showing how a large
tree has fallen among the bamboo causing some damage.
I'll take more when time and daylight allows.
bob haller
Feb 9, 2012, 9:22:32 AM2/9/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
ahh you admit a fox in the area. thus you have a wildlife preserve.
and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met
why not just leave this island of whatever alone?
what ae you planning on doing with it? planting grass?
thats just more grass to cut:(
Brooklyn1
Feb 9, 2012, 9:45:51 AM2/9/12
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To get rid of that bamboo you are going to have to till deep and rake
out the roots. I suggest you obtain a dozer, bamboo stumps will
pierce tractor tires. You have a lot of work to do over the next few
years... you are not going to get rid of that bamboo in one season,
probably take five years of constant attention. Consider yourself
lucky it's not on a slope. After cutting it to the ground the first
thing I'd do is hire someone with a backhoe to dig a trench around the
entire perimeter, deep and wide. Once the bamboo is eradicated I
suggest seriously considering installing a 2 acre pond. Anyone who
plants bamboo, any kind, is an imbecile.
http://www.howtogetridofstuff.com/outdoor/how-to-get-rid-of-bamboo/
http://www.completebamboo.com/bamboo_removal.html
Harry K
Feb 9, 2012, 10:27:20 AM2/9/12
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> - Show quoted text -
Odd. I just googled it and your cite is the first on. All the others
> - Show quoted text -
on page one say Roundup works fine...as would be expected as RU kills
roots, not top growth. The tops die when they are no longer getting
food.
Harry K
dpb
Feb 9, 2012, 11:10:15 AM2/9/12
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On 2/9/2012 9:27 AM, Harry K wrote:
...
> Odd. I just googled it and your cite is the first on. All the others
> on page one say Roundup works fine...as would be expected as RU kills
> roots, not top growth. The tops die when they are no longer getting
> food.
Glyphosate kills plants by inhibiting 5-enolpyruvylshikimate-3-phosphate
synthase (EPSPS). EPSPS is a key enzyme in the shikimate biosynthetic
pathway which is necessary for the production of the aromatic amino
acids, auxin, phytoalexins, folic acid, lignin, plastoquinones and many
other secondary products.
There are plants that are resistant both naturally as well as
genetically altered ("Roundup Ready (tm)" soybeans, etc.). There have
been instances also of weeds becoming glyphosate-resistant where it has
been used exclusively for weed control over a period of time.
I'm not positive how effective it is on bamboo(s); I'm sure it would
only be very effective on small new growth after a severe mowing if it
is very useful at all.
You might investigate Remedy (tm) as an alternative altho it may be
restricted back east, I don't know...since I farm and have applicator's
license I'm not up on just what homeowner can get otc...
--
...
> Odd. I just googled it and your cite is the first on. All the others
> on page one say Roundup works fine...as would be expected as RU kills
> roots, not top growth. The tops die when they are no longer getting
> food.
synthase (EPSPS). EPSPS is a key enzyme in the shikimate biosynthetic
pathway which is necessary for the production of the aromatic amino
acids, auxin, phytoalexins, folic acid, lignin, plastoquinones and many
other secondary products.
There are plants that are resistant both naturally as well as
genetically altered ("Roundup Ready (tm)" soybeans, etc.). There have
been instances also of weeds becoming glyphosate-resistant where it has
been used exclusively for weed control over a period of time.
I'm not positive how effective it is on bamboo(s); I'm sure it would
only be very effective on small new growth after a severe mowing if it
is very useful at all.
You might investigate Remedy (tm) as an alternative altho it may be
restricted back east, I don't know...since I farm and have applicator's
license I'm not up on just what homeowner can get otc...
--
Gunner
Feb 9, 2012, 1:20:48 PM2/9/12
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>as would be expected as RU kills
> roots, not top growth.
where my statement is misleading, should have said is a type of grass
that R/U control is not effective on. I do not believe R/U is even on
label for bamboo. but do verify that. For further references see
below:
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1614/WT-05-187.1;
Weed Technology
Published by: Weed Science Society of America
Weed Technology 21(1):80-83. 2007
doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1614/WT-05-187.1
Controlling Bamboo (Phyllostachys Spp.) with Herbicides
Mark A. Czarnota and Jeffrey Derr*
"Bamboos are grass species that can escape cultivation and invade
lawns, landscapes, and other areas. Limited information is available
on ways to control invasive bamboo species. Greenhouse and field
studies were initiated to determine the level of bamboo control
provided by a single application of selected PRE and POST herbicides.
Bamboo species included in the study were golden bamboo in greenhouse
experiments and red-margined bamboo in field experiments. In
greenhouse trials, MSMA, quinclorac, dithiopyr, clethodim, fenoxaprop,
and sethoxydim did not control either species. Glyphosate,
glufosinate, and fluazifop significantly reduced bamboo-shoot fresh
weight, although regrowth occurred after a single application. In
field trials, bamboo control with dichlobenil in the 2002 and 2004
experiments was less than 23%. For the study initiated in 2002,
glyphosate and imazapyr provided 76% and 98% bamboo control,
respectively, at 58 wk after treatment (WAT). By 161 WAT
(approximately 3 yr after treatment), bamboo-control ratings were 40%
with glyphosate and 85% with imazapyr. For the study initiated in
2004, at 61 WAT, glyphosate and imazapyr provided 46 and 88% control
of bamboo, respectively."
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ag266:
“Herbicides"
"Considering the perennial nature of bamboo, the use of herbicide will
often be needed to hasten and improve control. However,*** there are
currently no herbicide labels that list bamboo as a controlled
species*** (emphasis added) . But there are herbicides that are
relatively effective on this weed. Both glyphosate (Roundup and
others) and imazapyr (Arsenal and others), ***used at high rates***
( emphasis added) , will control bamboo.
Research has shown that for herbicides to be effective, the bamboo
should be mowed or chopped and allowed to regrow to a height of
approximately 3 feet, or until the leaves expand (Figure 2 Pic
deleted). Glyphosate at a 5% solution or imazapyr as a 1% solution can
then be applied directly to the leaves.
It has been noted that imazapyr is more effective on bamboo than
glyphosate. However, imazapyr has a great deal of foliar and soil
activity and will potentially kill hardwood trees, shrubs, and all
grasses if their roots extend into the vicinity of the application.
Therefore, if the bamboo is growing near any desirable plant species,
imazapyr should not be used. Glyphosate does not have soil activity
and will only kill plants that are contacted with the spray solution.
This makes glyphosate a more useful herbicide option for most areas
where bamboo grows. It is important to note that one application of
glyphosate will not eradicate bamboo. You will likely be required to
mow and spray as many as 4 times for complete bamboo control to be
achieved. Persistence is key when targeting this weed.
Additionally, glyphosate comes in many different formulations and
concentrations. The 5% solution (or 6 fl oz per gallon) refers to
glyphosate formulated at a 41% concentration. If the glyphosate
product you intend to use does not contain 41% active ingredient, then
the application rate should be altered to accommodate this
difference.”
http://www.clemson.edu/extension/hgic/pests/weeds/hgic2320.html;
“A final, and often necessary, method of control for bamboo is the use
of herbicides. A non-selective herbicide with the active ingredient
glyphosate (e.g., Roundup Original, Eraser Systemic Weed & Grass
Killer, Quick Kill Grass & Weed Killer, Bonide Kleenup Grass & Weed
Killer, Hi-Yield Super Concentrate Killzall Weed & Grass, Maxide Super
Concentrate 41% Weed & Grass Killer, and Southern States Grass & Weed
Killer Concentrate) is the best option for homeowners. Glyphosate has
very little residual soil activity and will only kill plants that
receive direct contact. For glyphosate to be effective, the bamboo
must be mowed or chopped and allowed to regrow until the new leaves
expand. Glyphosate should then be applied to the leaves. Keep in mind
that one application of glyphosate will not eradicate the bamboo
infestation. It can potentially take two to three years to gain
complete control. Do not apply these products directly to water or to
areas where surface water is present. For bamboo control next to
creeks, lake basins, wetlands or other water sources where spray drift
will contact the water, choose a glyphosate product labeled for use
near water, such as Eraser AQ, Rodeo, Pondmaster, Aquamaster or
Aquapro. Aquatic formulations of glyphosate may be mixed with a non-
ionic surfactant, such as Ortho X-77 or Southern Ag Surfactant for
Herbicides, to improve control. When using herbicides, please be sure
to follow all label instructions.”
bob haller
Feb 9, 2012, 4:21:03 PM2/9/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
i guess you missed where the OP said theres utility lines and a septic
> - Show quoted text -
tank in the bamboo area.
Whats wrong with just leaving it grow?
Brooklyn1
Feb 9, 2012, 4:55:07 PM2/9/12
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On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:21:03 -0800 (PST), bob haller <hal...@aol.com>
wrote:
I guess you missed where the OP said there MIGHT BE utility lines and
a septic in the bamboo area.
wrote:
a septic in the bamboo area.
Kay Lancaster
Feb 9, 2012, 5:42:03 PM2/9/12
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On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:03:29 -0800 (PST), Elliott P <elliot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable
> plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery here:
> http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/2745459/1/TowsonBamboo?h=d5ab39
No, you've got a real bamboo there; my guess from the photos is a Phyllostachys.
> I uploaded several pictures I happen to have of the questionable
> plants to my Dropbox account. You can see the gallery here:
> http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/2745459/1/TowsonBamboo?h=d5ab39
Control methods here: http://plants.ifas.ufl.edu/node/324
http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/pubs/midatlantic/bamboos.htm
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn74142.html
Watch carefully for spray drift. Desirable plants that get hit with
Roundup/Rodeo can be rescued by immediate treatment with muddy water to bind
glyphosate.
My first inclination, seeing those photos, would be to consider brush
hogging the area and then hand application of glyphosate to the new sprouts.
I'm pretty sure that will work, but will require constant vigilance and respray
for a couple of years.
And yes, I will consider using carefully chosen chemicals, preferably applied
in the most directed manner possible, for control of large weed infestations.
Kay
Ron
Feb 9, 2012, 11:17:02 PM2/9/12
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> ahh you admit a fox in the area. thus you have a wildlife preserve.
> and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
> and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
> plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met
<eye roll number 2 in this thread>
> and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
> and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
> plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met
dpb
Feb 10, 2012, 9:08:33 AM2/10/12
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On 2/9/2012 10:17 PM, Ron wrote:
...
>> and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
>> and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
>> plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met
>
> <eye roll number 2 in this thread>
Not sure if tongue-in-cheek or not; w/ Haller, probably not. :(
Next we'll be hearing how the K&T wiring must come out... :)
--
...
>> and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
>> and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
>> plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met
>
> <eye roll number 2 in this thread>
Next we'll be hearing how the K&T wiring must come out... :)
--
Evan
Feb 10, 2012, 12:13:57 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 7, 9:21 am, N8N <njna...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 6, 4:00 pm, Evan <evan.news.re...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Is it considered a "wet land" ?
>
> > You should check with your nearest conservation/environmental
> > authorities to make sure you are allowed to cut all of that
> > natural vegetation down without some kind of site plan/impact
> > study done and having a permit hearing...
>
> Not saying that the OP doesn't need to do that (I've heard of dumber
> things) but bamboo has never been native to Maryland to my
> knowledge... you'd think the enviro types would be happy to see it
> go.
>
> nate
@Nate:
It might not be "native" to Maryland, but it is growing there on
its own over a 1.5 acre area -- which makes it something
that might require permission of/supervision from the AHJ or
environmental/conservation authorities before you go about
removing it on your own...
The nativity of a species of plant doesn't impact its vital
role as a means of erosion control and as a water absorber...
Making major changes which effect erosion and water flow
properties of most lands requires oversight -- it is the size
of the area in which the OP seeks to modify that is really
at issue...
~~ Evan
> On Feb 6, 4:00 pm, Evan <evan.news.re...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 6, 11:54 am, Elliott P <elliott.pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
> > > stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
> > > *one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
> > > stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
> > > dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
> > > allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
> > > restore the property, inside and out.
>
> > > Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
> > > this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
> > > with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
> > > commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
> > > can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
> > > would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.
>
> > > The property is in Towson, Maryland.
>
> > > Thank you in advance.
>
> > Are you allowed to clear cut the wooded/brush/bamboo area ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 6, 11:54 am, Elliott P <elliott.pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
> > > stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
> > > *one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
> > > stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
> > > dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
> > > allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
> > > restore the property, inside and out.
>
> > > Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
> > > this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
> > > with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
> > > commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
> > > can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
> > > would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.
>
> > > The property is in Towson, Maryland.
>
> > > Thank you in advance.
>
>
> > Is it considered a "wet land" ?
>
> > You should check with your nearest conservation/environmental
> > authorities to make sure you are allowed to cut all of that
> > natural vegetation down without some kind of site plan/impact
> > study done and having a permit hearing...
>
> Not saying that the OP doesn't need to do that (I've heard of dumber
> things) but bamboo has never been native to Maryland to my
> knowledge... you'd think the enviro types would be happy to see it
> go.
>
> nate
@Nate:
It might not be "native" to Maryland, but it is growing there on
its own over a 1.5 acre area -- which makes it something
that might require permission of/supervision from the AHJ or
environmental/conservation authorities before you go about
removing it on your own...
The nativity of a species of plant doesn't impact its vital
role as a means of erosion control and as a water absorber...
Making major changes which effect erosion and water flow
properties of most lands requires oversight -- it is the size
of the area in which the OP seeks to modify that is really
at issue...
~~ Evan
bob haller
Feb 10, 2012, 12:38:15 PM2/10/12
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likely make it worse.
i have some new K&T info but thats for another day........
dpb
Feb 10, 2012, 12:53:41 PM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 11:13 AM, Evan wrote:
...
> It might not be "native" to Maryland, but it is growing there on
> its own over a 1.5 acre area -- which makes it something
> that might require permission of/supervision from the AHJ or
> environmental/conservation authorities before you go about
> removing it on your own...
...
I'd think it far more likely to be on a noxious weed list _requiring_
control than the converse...
--
...
> It might not be "native" to Maryland, but it is growing there on
> its own over a 1.5 acre area -- which makes it something
> that might require permission of/supervision from the AHJ or
> environmental/conservation authorities before you go about
> removing it on your own...
I'd think it far more likely to be on a noxious weed list _requiring_
control than the converse...
--
Brooklyn1
Feb 10, 2012, 2:34:23 PM2/10/12
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would know by perusing the property survey or simply phoning the town
clerk. Such information is generally on line too as it's public
record... they'd be able to say if there is a septic or utility line
buried. Absent a body of water on that piece of land I seriously
doubt that stand of bamboo is in any way protected... I have a 1/2
pond that I mow right to the edge each fall and cut out most of the
catails. I'd just hack that basmboo down and do whatever it takes
within legality (chems/fire) to be rid of it. With the right
equipment it shouldn't take very long to cut, chip, plow, and rake
that small plot, no more than 4 eight hour days and like 40 gallons of
diesel. If kept closely mowed whatever roots remain will die off
within a couple three seasons, I seriously doubt any defolient is
necessary, just keep mowing, even if twice a week... with my 7' mower
I can mow an acre in 20 minutes. I mow 10 acres of lawn every week,
when weather is dry I can do it all in one day, and I have several
separate areas, and lots of edging, miles of edging.
With my brush hog I can chop down a 4 acre wildflower meadow in about
four hours, typically 4'-6' tall:
http://i41.tinypic.com/18ndpg.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/15dto4h.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2cygs4o.jpg
No problem with my finish mower either:
http://i44.tinypic.com/25ujfgj.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/1177lom.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2pzy2s1.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2yn19xu.jpg
After clearing wild turkeys have a feast:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2134qps.jpg
I can guarantee I'd have that bamboo gone in three days, all while in
total A/C, dust-free comfort, with music blasting, wouldn't even work
up a sweat.
HeyBub
Feb 10, 2012, 2:52:52 PM2/10/12
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Elliott P wrote:
> Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
> stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
> *one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
> stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
> dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
> allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
> restore the property, inside and out.
>
> Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
> this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
> with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
> commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
> can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
> would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.
>
You could spray it. With Roundup. Or Napalm.
> Greetings all. A new property of my family's is covered by a massive
> stand of running bamboo. The lot is six acres rectangular, where about
> *one and a half* acres of the total acreage is covered by a very dense
> stand of running bamboo. It is 350 feet long deep at its longest
> dimension The plants have been there for decades, as the property was
> allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. It is our intention to
> restore the property, inside and out.
>
> Options for removal I've seen generally target small areas. However
> this is a much bigger problem! My first thought is to hire someone
> with a bulldozer to come push it all down, and then put it all in a
> commercial wood chipper. This could get expensive though. What else
> can we do? What problems does my scenario present? Hiring a panda bear
> would probably not go over well with the neighborhood.
>
Attack it with a bush-hog, or, if too big, a stump grinder. My local power
company hired a crew with what looked like a stump-grinder on the end of a
60' cherry-picker. It turned large trees to sawdust on their right of way.
Put an ad on Craigslist: "Free Bamboo - You cut it you can have it" to cull
the herd to a manageable size.
One pass with a bulldozer ought to knock it to the ground. Then treat the
area with a herbicide or ground sterilizer.
Ron
Feb 10, 2012, 1:00:33 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 12:38 pm, bob haller <hall...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 10, 9:08 am, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
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> > On 2/9/2012 10:17 PM, Ron wrote:
> > ...
>
> > >> and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
> > >> and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
> > >> plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met
>
> > > <eye roll number 2 in this thread>
>
> > Not sure if tongue-in-cheek or not; w/ Haller, probably not. :(
>
> > Next we'll be hearing how the K&T wiring must come out... :)
>
> > --
>
> well my post was a joke
Then, nicely done!
> On Feb 10, 9:08 am, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
>
> > On 2/9/2012 10:17 PM, Ron wrote:
> > ...
>
> > >> and will require federal state local government approval. must catch
> > >> and relocate all the wildlife. and meet EPA and other requirements.
> > >> plus post bonds and get inspections to prove the standards were met
>
> > > <eye roll number 2 in this thread>
>
> > Not sure if tongue-in-cheek or not; w/ Haller, probably not. :(
>
> > Next we'll be hearing how the K&T wiring must come out... :)
>
> > --
>
> well my post was a joke
Elliott P
Feb 10, 2012, 4:36:22 PM2/10/12
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> No problem with my finish mower either:http://i44.tinypic.com/25ujfgj.jpghttp://i43.tinypic.com/1177lom.jpghttp://i40.tinypic.com/2pzy2s1.jpghttp://i40.tinypic.com/2yn19xu.jpg
> After clearing wild turkeys have a feast:http://i44.tinypic.com/2134qps.jpg
> I can guarantee I'd have that bamboo gone in three days, all while in
> total A/C, dust-free comfort, with music blasting, wouldn't even work
> up a sweat.
Hello all. I've been in talks with the local government (whom I work
> I can guarantee I'd have that bamboo gone in three days, all while in
> total A/C, dust-free comfort, with music blasting, wouldn't even work
> up a sweat.
for) about the legal necessities and ramifications of this job.
I've located the septic tank well within the bamboo. So looks like
I'll be using a chainsaw around there.
I got an email from a local government forester who referred me to the
Home Horticulture & Master Gardener Coordinator at University of MD,
Carroll County Extension. He gave me two links, one of which I've seen
already posted. The first one is by Frank Gouin (retired MD
Agronomist, who was the Bamboo guru).
http://bayweekly.com/articles/bay-gardener-dr-frank-gouin/article/putting-curse-bamboo
http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/pubs/midatlantic/control-grassesandsedges.htm
I am leaning towards some means of chopping it down to ground level
(brush hog/saws), disposing the bamboo however (chipper?), and then
applying Roundup in the Fall, as described in the first link.
Also for the friends of nature here, even if we clear cut the whole
bamboo, there's still three acres of old growth deciduous trees behind
it to harbor plenty of animals and what not. One of the main reasons
for wanting to clear the bamboo is to prevent it from taking over the
giant trees back there. I think killing off an invasive forest for the
benefit of an old one, is a good trade off. But that's not the point
of this post.
Thank you all for all the tips thus far. I think this post will find
its way into Google searches and benefit many more people than just
me.
Carlton Seitz
Jan 31, 2023, 1:02:12 PM1/31/23
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Carlton Seitz
Jan 31, 2023, 1:07:57 PM1/31/23
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Elliott,
I live in Towson and I garden. I am looking for green bamboo poles 1" in dia or more. I would be happuy to cut what I need. If you still have the bamboo give a shout. I also have experience in getting rid of bamboo.
Carlton
I live in Towson and I garden. I am looking for green bamboo poles 1" in dia or more. I would be happuy to cut what I need. If you still have the bamboo give a shout. I also have experience in getting rid of bamboo.
Carlton
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