OT:
madgardener
just to let you out there know, JOhn has had his surgery, and is
sore.....me, I have the worst case of flu I have ever had in 13 years.
Started getting sick Thursday, buy Sunday I was deffinately into the
battle of germs with my body. sat so sick at the hospital I could
barely sit up, but Mary Emma showed up and sat with me, bless her
heart. They released john, we limped home and i hit the couch and laid
there totally out of it, until I realized I needed things to help me
fight this. so I dragged to wally world, got supplies, came home, and
dosed with what I had. john had antibiotics leftover from oral surgery,
been taking them, and orange juice, bought lemons, taste buds are shot.
but fever peaked yesterday at 102o. John is sore and irritable today,
me, I have cold sweats, and not as achey today, I have to work, I took
yesterday off as I was deffinately contageious.....my love comes out to
all of you and I will get back online when I feel better. so e-mail
away, when I download eventually I will just have a nice surprise...oh
and a garden note thru the illness, my crocus are blooming in the
eastern fairy bed, I put on hat and coat and looked at them.....just too
ill to appreciate more than a second.....and it was up to 71
today......arghh, madgardener
Priscilla H Ballou
: just to let you out there know, JOhn has had his surgery, and is
: sore.....me, I have the worst case of flu I have ever had in 13 years.
: Started getting sick Thursday, buy Sunday I was deffinately into the
: battle of germs with my body. sat so sick at the hospital I could
: barely sit up, but Mary Emma showed up and sat with me, bless her
: heart. They released john, we limped home and i hit the couch and laid
: there totally out of it, until I realized I needed things to help me
: fight this. so I dragged to wally world, got supplies, came home, and
: dosed with what I had. john had antibiotics leftover from oral surgery,
: been taking them, and orange juice, bought lemons, taste buds are shot.
I'm sorry to hear you've been sick with the flu. I had it a couple of
weeks ago. To save yourself some trouble, don't bother with antibiotics
for the flu -- it's a virus, and antibiotics don't do squat for a virus.
They work on bacterial infections. Now, if your flu brought on a
subsequent bacterial infection (as mine did), then your own antibiotics --
the ones which your doctor knows work best against whatever kind of
bacterial infection you have and prescribes for you -- would be the
ticket.
As it is, your husband has potentially aided bacteria's fight to be immune
from antibiotics by not finishing all his meds, and you are wasting
medication where it will do either no good or potentially not as much good
as you need.
I'm not looking to kick you while you're down, and I know I'm sounding
like a real bitch, but I'm hoping to educate you so you can take better
care of your health. And the issue of not finishing all one's prescribed
antibiotics affect us all. You husband is helping to create supergerms
against which we have no remedy.
Priscilla
: but fever peaked yesterday at 102o. John is sore and irritable today,
: me, I have cold sweats, and not as achey today, I have to work, I took
: yesterday off as I was deffinately contageious.....my love comes out to
: all of you and I will get back online when I feel better. so e-mail
: away, when I download eventually I will just have a nice surprise...oh
: and a garden note thru the illness, my crocus are blooming in the
: eastern fairy bed, I put on hat and coat and looked at them.....just too
: ill to appreciate more than a second.....and it was up to 71
: today......arghh, madgardener
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Paul Onstad
> I'm not looking to kick you while you're down, and I know I'm sounding
> like a real bitch, but I'm hoping to educate you so you can take better
> care of your health.
You had the courage to say what I was thinking of saying.
Yes, madgardener, I had your flu last Nov-Dec. It came upon me just as I
began driving back from Albuquerque on my way to Minneapolis. It took me
five days! but I put in a few road miles each day. When I got back I called
the clinic and there was nothing they could do for me (a virus). They just
read off a list of items to reduce the symptoms. The next days were spent in
a fevered fog but somehow I survived. I feel so much better for it now and
you will too even though it took me about a month before I was completely
cured.
The life cycle of antibiotics is shortened immensely my misuse--not taking
them for the full term; taking them inappropriately.
-Paul
Mesas
treat your flu. This is every doctor's nightmare, especially since so
many organisms are building up resistance to so many antibiotics. The
stronger antibiotics often have severe side effects, and those
antibiotics are going to be the only things left if penicillin and
erythromycin don't work anymore.
Antibiotics will only help you if you have an infection. The flu is not
an infection. You can get a secondary infection from the flu, such as
bronchitis or pneumonia, but different antibiotics do different things.
What I take for my bladder infections is totally different from what I
take for a sinus infection. A doctor needs to tell you if you have a
secondary infection. You could just be feeling better because it's time
for you to start feeling better. Depending on what it is, what was good
for your husband's oral surgery might not affect, say, pneumonia. Also,
you need to take the full round of antibiotics, not just what's left
over, or you take the very great risk of not having that antibiotic work
for you for *anything* anymore.
Sorry to be a pain, but I thought I should say something. Still, I'm
glad you're feeling better!
Theresa (the queen of infections)
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> just to let you out there know, JOhn has had his surgery, and is
> sore.....me, I have the worst case of flu I have ever had in 13 years.
> Started getting sick Thursday, buy Sunday I was deffinately into the
> battle of germs with my body. sat so sick at the hospital I could
> barely sit up, but Mary Emma showed up and sat with me, bless her
> heart. They released john, we limped home and i hit the couch and laid
> there totally out of it, until I realized I needed things to help me
> fight this. so I dragged to wally world, got supplies, came home, and
> dosed with what I had. john had antibiotics leftover from oral surgery,
> been taking them, and orange juice, bought lemons, taste buds are shot.
> but fever peaked yesterday at 102o. John is sore and irritable today,
> me, I have cold sweats, and not as achey today, I have to work, I took
> yesterday off as I was deffinately contageious.....my love comes out to
> all of you and I will get back online when I feel better. so e-mail
> away, when I download eventually I will just have a nice surprise...oh
> and a garden note thru the illness, my crocus are blooming in the
> eastern fairy bed, I put on hat and coat and looked at them.....just too
> ill to appreciate more than a second.....and it was up to 71
> today......arghh, madgardener
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Victoria
takes to live in your body and die out. About a week. Some flu's are worse
than others. Those medications they sell, including the new flu prescription
drugs are toxic to the liver, kidneys, and other excretory organs. Aspirin for
fever and lay down. That's my treatment.
V
Ms. Dors
>
> madgardener, please tell me you're not using left over antibiotics to
> treat your flu. This is every doctor's nightmare, especially since so
> many organisms are building up resistance to so many antibiotics. The
One of the side effects of taking antibiotics is, for some people,
constipation. Evidently, antibiotics kill all the good bacteria in your
system along with the bad; as a result, food doesn't get digested as it
should. The cure for putting beneficial bacteria back into your system
is to eat yogurt that contains those beneficial cultures--thermophilus,
acidophilus, bifidus. So, if at the end of the siege you're feeling like
a bound-up bunny, look for yogurt containers that say they contain
acidophilus. (Brown Cow Farms yogurt is very good stuff, esp. the
full-fat yogurt with the cream on top. It's a real whisker-licker.)
DeVona
Marsha Huckins
not all yogurts have acidophilus. I was once into all this but now I can't
remember it all.
Mesas wrote:
> I don't remember writing this. I know my short-term memory sucks, but
> not this bad. You may have gotten your attributions a little mixed
> up--it's easy to do.
>
> Still, I believe some yogurts are better about having the good germies
> in it than others. Mountain High and Continental yogurts are good. I've
> found that the yogurts chock-full of sugar, FD&C food dyes, and other
> stuff don't work as well.
>
> And poor madgardener--I imagine she's feeling quite abused right now
> <VBG>. Madgardener, it's only cause we like ya so much!!! We want you to
> stick around, be healthy, and give us lots of gardening advice, and tell
> us your family stories!!
>
> Theresa
>
> Judy Bay <jb...@terraworld.net> wrote:
>
> > ...you mean not all yogurts contains acidophilus?
> >
> > "Ms. Dors" wrote:
> > >
> > > Mesas wrote:
> > look for yogurt containers that say they contain
> > > acidophilus.
>
madgardener
Priscilla H Ballou wrote:
>
> I'm sorry to hear you've been sick with the flu. I had it a couple of
> weeks ago. To save yourself some trouble, don't bother with antibiotics
> for the flu -- it's a virus, and antibiotics don't do squat for a virus.
well normally, I don't, but this one started out as infected
sinus.......
> They work on bacterial infections. Now, if your flu brought on a
> subsequent bacterial infection (as mine did), then your own antibiotics --
> the ones which your doctor knows work best against whatever kind of
> bacterial infection you have and prescribes for you -- would be the
> ticket.
since I don't HAVE a doctor, and can't AFFORD a doctor, and the closest
clinic that takes poor folks like myself and hubby(at the moment) is in
Knoxville 48 miles away, I opted for the best I could do, this is why
husband's surgery is finally getting done.....unemployed since november
due to the hernia....and a church that funds surgeries and various
health problems took us in their good graces...........
>
> As it is, your husband has potentially aided bacteria's fight to be immune
> from antibiotics by not finishing all his meds, and you are wasting
> medication where it will do either no good or potentially not as much good
> as you need.
well, actually neither of us TAKE antibiotics, unless a tooth is pulled
or I get pneumonia, we generally heal ourselves, when Squire gets sick,
he wraps up and fights it off, but since I have to work in a restaurant,
handling food I can't be blowing green snot all over the place like I
was yesterday, and I have this thing where if i have a fever (and my
normal temperature is 96.7, by the way, so 102o for me is frying) I
absolutely refuse to work and expose people. Knowing what pneumonia
feels like is what is scaring me at the moment. because that is what the
lower right lung feels like....
>
> I'm not looking to kick you while you're down, and I know I'm sounding
> like a real bitch, but I'm hoping to educate you so you can take better
> care of your health.
you aren't kicking me, you just don't know me, or my husband. We don't
usually take antibiotics unless we are seriously ill or exposed
particularly when a tooth is extracted. And I didn't think you were
being a bitch, you're just concerned in your way. I do fine as I can
with my health. I fed kids for 8 years and hardly got sick at all and
they exposed me to everything, but then, I ate better there than I have
been here. Which is probably one of the reasons my resistance is down,
not adequate nourishment, and extreme stresses, and then I chilled down
and set myself up for whatever germ was floating around at the
restaurant, and I will be more exposed because it's right off an
interstate. I can't even find my echinacea.........
And the issue of not finishing all one's prescribed
> antibiotics affect us all. You husband is helping to create supergerms
> against which we have no remedy.
I seriously doubt that sweetie, my husband fights his germs with the
best he has, his own immune system. He even doesn't use novacane, he
just tells his mind he won't feel the pain. Any germs you get that are
immune to antibiotics won't come from me or him, it will come from the
over medicated children of the last and this generation.....my own son
is prime example, one was always ill, and the other one was sick during
a time when funds were tight and he had to just heat up and burn the
buggers out. Now the younger son has a daughter that is being
constantly over dosed when she gets sick, and the doctors don't listen
to him, and his ex-wife doesn't realize the harm she's causing the child
in the long run. Better that Taylor develops an immune system now while
she can before the super germs knock her flat or kill her. I eventually
will be fine given time to heal, this working and flapping in and out of
freezers and coolers and cold sweats with me being soaked doesn't do the
immune system any good, but I HAVE to work, now I said my piece, 'nuff
said.......madgardener
>
> Priscilla
>
Mesas
Priscilla H Ballou
: ...you mean not all yogurts contains acidophilus?
You've got to look for those which say "contain live cultures" or "contain
active cultures." Myself, I take acidophilus capsules since yoghurt
sometimes gives me migraines.
Oh, and I don't get "bound up like a bunny" (was that the expression?). I
do a Niagara Falls impression!
And to make this even more graphic and "of a sensitive nature," many
women get yeast infections from antibiotics. The treatment for that is
again yoghurt, but applied topically (and not cold from the fridge, I
think!). ;-)
Priscilla
loonyhiker
I start to feel sick, we eat radishes in our salad. Maybe it is all in our
heads, but we usually don't get sick. We haven't been sick in over a year.
(knock on wood). Hope you get to feeling better!
loonyhiker
bob
If it works, who cares if it is "all in our heads" or scientifically
correct. For years Dr.'s kept saying that there was no evidence that
Vitamin C would help ward off colds, but what are they saying now?
bob in Central FLA
who is now going out to plant radishes
Zaphod & Trillian
ginger. It actually fights viruses, according to what I read.
We hate getting sick, so we get flu shots every year and I
carry a germ filter mask with me for situations where we are
stuck close to someone that is hacking and coughing.
Mesas
during a yeast infection! <VBG>
Theresa
Priscilla H Ballou <p...@world.std.com> wrote:
> Judy Bay (jb...@terraworld.net) wrote:
> : ...you mean not all yogurts contains acidophilus?
>
> You've got to look for those which say "contain live cultures" or "contain
> active cultures." Myself, I take acidophilus capsules since yoghurt
> sometimes gives me migraines.
>
> Oh, and I don't get "bound up like a bunny" (was that the expression?). I
> do a Niagara Falls impression!
>
> And to make this even more graphic and "of a sensitive nature," many
> women get yeast infections from antibiotics. The treatment for that is
> again yoghurt, but applied topically (and not cold from the fridge, I
> think!). ;-)
>
> Priscilla
--
madgardener
madgardener
B & J wrote:
>
>
> I'm glad to hear the creeping crud is backing off, Marilyn. It's about time!
well I am still the mucus machine, everyone is used to the bandana's in
my back pockets and me going to break room, honking like a flock of
jello geese (some of the more squeemish females sorta turn green while
they are trying to cop a quick smoke and leave. ... <EG>) washing hands
and tearing back over to prep. the most noticable is my BOOM BOX with
the music coming from it......and me and my shit eating smile..........
I don't crack jokes as much as I mess with them. They never know what I
am going to say one minute to the next. Right now we have one young=un
that is deffinately in heat, or in rut, and I was picking at him
unmercilessly, only this one is so imbedded in his heat that it made him
worse.......sorta like feeding spanish fly to a horny bull......so we
decided to gross him out instead. I can tell you that I am spoiling the
waitresses with my more creamy version of mac and cheese.......when I
get to work it's drier than my butt, so I make a fresh batch and they
start selling it more after I get there, that and my cinnamon
apples.......<GBSEG> what can I say? Problem is as wired as I am,
being the only one on prep is hard on thursdays and fridays, and now
having to go to work when it is 80 freaking
degrees........arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I wanna stay home and
GARDEN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purple iris reticulata, yellow iris ret., purple
ones, golden crocus, the twig dogwood is fully blooming with it's little
yellow balls of fairy flowers, and tried to get a ladybug to attack the
aphids on my hoya the other night and I think she couldn't eat them
because of the juices they had ingested of the hoya. never saw a
ladybug turn and book off from aphids before..... lets see, all five of
the hellbore plants in various places, including the one in the POT has
BUDS ON IT!!!!!!!! wow! most pleased. went out to my truck last night
and in the bed was a suspicious clump of something, when I opened the
door (the light goes on over the back of the truck windows, lighting up
the bed some) it was a gift from the daff. patrol, someone had dug up
almost blooming double yellow daffs and placed them in the bed of my
truck.............. so I got my planting fix today and plugged them in
and watered them. John has the garden madness bug as well, and he was
able to wrap up and sweat this crap out of his system unlike I was able
to. He's just left with the mucus and coughing, he's much better now.
Oh yeah, the kerria japonica next to the window in front of the nook is
absolutely bud tight with hundreds and hundreds of little greenish
yellow balls waiting to blow my mind...... sigh, I just KNOW MOM's
Nature is gonna make me nuts...oh well, it is Feb. 25th after
all........... later friends! bye big Brudder..... madgardener
> I'm sorry John got the same stuff. An operation is hard enough to handle
> without being sick besides. I would really like to know how anyone gets
> anything done where you work with you cracking them up all the time with your
> jokes. Inquiring minds want to know. ;)
>
> John
>
> John
davi...@webtv.net
killer creamy mac and cinn apples? I'll trade you my surefire cold
remedy for your recipeeeeeees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! david
Madgardener
I use at work......they have creamy cheddar cheese in a gallon can. But
I WILL tell you my secret for my home made mac and cheese. Fix yer
macaroni, but don't cook it soft, then in a sauce pan, heat butter, some
half and half, to simmer, then start putting in shredded cheddar cheese,
a little bit of white cheese, and stir until it's all dissolved. then
pour over the not quite done macaroni, stir with a rubber spatula, then
carefully fold in more shredded colby-jack cheese, and bake at 350o
until bubbly. Now for the cinnamon apple receipe. this one is the same
I make at work. Canned apples are wonderful for this, go to a store
where you can get the unsweetened, sliced, packed in water apples.
Sam's or where you can get hold of a large can of them. if not, the
hard way is granny smiths, a golden delicious, two Rome's. In other
words, firm, slightly tart, juicy apples. Peel them, but keep the
skins. Then melt a stick of butter in a sauce pan, on simmer so as to
not scorch it. Add your peelings on the bottom, then the apple slices,
and a cup of sugar. stir until the apples start to lose their liquid,
then put two heaping tablespoons of cinnamon, and stir in carefully.
Simmer this, and taste it, if it's not sweet enough, throw in more
sugar. The peelings thicken it, and you can actually fish those out for
the squeemish eaters, me I eat it all. In the case of finding a canned
apple packed in water, butter, sugar, apples and cinnamon and heat until
it is simmering and the cinnamon is fully cooked into the apples. About
20 minutes on a good simmer. What I do at work is take the mac and
cheese that the previous worker made, usually make it "dissappear" and
use fresh cooked, chilled macaroni, heat my milk, butter/margarine blend
in a sauce pan, then whisk about a cup and a half of cheddar cheese
sauce we have at the restaurant, and whisk until it's all blended and
hot, turn off the burner before the sauce scorches, and dump in the
macaroni and carefully stir with a rubber spatula. It's creamy then,
and LOOKS like mac and cheese, (a sneaky thing I do is throw in a
handful of shredded cheese before I take it up front if I can get away
with it, but I don't do that too often). One thing I love about cooking
the same vegetables (I don't like cooking the same veggies, but what can
I do?) since we're southern, we cook turnip greens, pinto beans, and
green beans. We also get smoked meaty bacon chips in 2 1/2 pound bags.
so in the pinto beans we put in a double handful of bacon chips and
simmer, same with the green beans and with the turnip greens. And in
this case, the longer it heats the richer and better it tastes. The
green beans are killer after the first hour, since the smoky bacon has
intergrated into the bean, and the pinto's thicken up and need a good
wedge of cornbread........and I haven't eaten the turnip greens yet
because I prefer fresh ones over canned, but one night I will try them
since they smell wonderful. Is that good enough, David? <EG>
MAdgardener
davi...@webtv.net
willing to share her secrets!
Am anxious to try these babies out - starting with the cinn apples!
david ~~ now thinking of a Madgaedners Southern Cookbok
Angela Fitzpatrick
"cold cure".
So I will give her mine........50mg of zinc once a day and 1000mg of C
twice a day. Get that immune system hummin'.
Ang
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davi...@webtv.net
thing to post publically - who only knows what type of thread that would
start. I forgot about zinc. That works great too.
david