Mosquito Deleto vs. Mosquito Magnet
MarkG
$795 and $1,295.
Coleman is now producing a copycat version for $199 list. It also
uses a propane tank to create a CO2 plume and octenal. The difference
is that it uses sticky shields to catch mosquitos and the propane
lasts 45 days verses 20 for the Mosquito Magnet.
I bought it two weeks ago. It is clearly attracting mosquitos. I
typically see little clouds of them hovering over the device. What it
doesn't seem to do well is kill them. There are only a few stuck to
the shields. On the other hand, since I started using it we haven't
been bitten at all.
Does anyone have any comments on the Deleto or how it compares to the
Mosquito Magnet. I know that I wasn't willing to spend $795 for the
Magnet, but the Deleto is far more affordable at $199.
JNJ
$249.99 and that's how much Coleman sells them for on their site.)
Setup appears to be pretty easy. As soon as we have a warm spell again with
some non-rainy weather, I intend to put it out and see how it does.
They've discovered the West Nile Virus has made it to the Cincinnati area
(dead birds with the disease) so this has become even more imperative a
matter, especially considering how bad the skeeters were last year. If the
Deleto does not do the trick, I'll be looking at alternative solutions or
perhaps a hybrid solution (such as the Deleto with a vacuum placed next to
it for example).
James
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Paul Onstad
> I bought it two weeks ago. It is clearly attracting mosquitos. I
> typically see little clouds of them hovering over the device. What it
> doesn't seem to do well is kill them. There are only a few stuck to
> the shields. On the other hand, since I started using it we haven't
> been bitten at all.
From the few reports that have begun to trickle in, that seems to be the
common observation--doesn't kill 'em but (may) provide relief.
Maybe they get drunk on CO2 and settle down in the bushes to sleep if off!
Of course my neighbors who'd take their daily walk with clickers felt more
comfortable too.
-Paul
JNJ
not perform as advertised, I'm bundling it up and sending it back. Home
Depot is now carrying the Mosquito Magnet Liberty model which will handle a
3/4 acre plot -- I only have 1/4 acre to cover, so that will work good for
me as well. :)
Out of curiosity, where have you heard these reports on the Mosquito Deleto?
I've been searching the group and Mark really seems to be the only one to
have anything to say -- it's as if no one else has one.
James
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Paul Onstad
>
> FWIW, Coleman IS offering a 60 day money back guarantee. If this puppy does
> not perform as advertised, I'm bundling it up and sending it back. Home
> Depot is now carrying the Mosquito Magnet Liberty model which will handle a
> 3/4 acre plot -- I only have 1/4 acre to cover, so that will work good for
> me as well. :)
>
> Out of curiosity, where have you heard these reports on the Mosquito Deleto?
> I've been searching the group and Mark really seems to be the only one to
> have anything to say -- it's as if no one else has one.
I was referring to reports of CO2 generating mosquito traps in general.
KrisHur had a recent comment, then there were a series of exchanges last
summer including one quite dissatisfied customer (of the M.M.).
-Paul
Tsu Dho Nimh
>There have been threads on this board about the Mosquito Magnet for
>$795 and $1,295.
>
>Coleman is now producing a copycat version for $199 list. It also
>uses a propane tank to create a CO2 plume and octenal. The difference
>is that it uses sticky shields to catch mosquitos and the propane
>lasts 45 days verses 20 for the Mosquito Magnet.
>
>I bought it two weeks ago. It is clearly attracting mosquitos. I
>typically see little clouds of them hovering over the device. What it
>doesn't seem to do well is kill them.
Do you see any mosquito-eating critters there? I can imagine
that bats and dragonflies will detect the all-you-can-scoop
buffet quite soon.
Tsu Dho Nimh
The neat thing about free speech, practiced properly, is that *everyone*
gets to do it.
JNJ
> KrisHur had a recent comment, then there were a series of exchanges last
> summer including one quite dissatisfied customer (of the M.M.).
Ahhhh...I'm with you now. I recall the discussion last year as well (I
think I may have started it with my inquiries on controlling skeeters at
that time). The things must be doing something right though -- MM has
reported increasing sales on an astronomical scale. It will be interesting
to see if these things work. As I was saying in another thread, our locals
are reporting dead birds with West Nile Virus so mosquito control just
became a lot more important to us.
James
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>Of course my neighbors who'd take their daily walk with clickers felt more
>comfortable too.
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>
> > I was referring to reports of CO2 generating mosquito traps in general.
> > KrisHur had a recent comment, then there were a series of exchanges last
> > summer including one quite dissatisfied customer (of the M.M.).
>
> Ahhhh...I'm with you now. I recall the discussion last year as well (I
> think I may have started it with my inquiries on controlling skeeters at
> that time). The things must be doing something right though -- MM has
> reported increasing sales on an astronomical scale.
Oh, no, no, no :) That is not proof of anything except good marketing and a
consumer wish.
They may be nothing more than the bug-zappers of the 00's is all.
>It will be interesting
> to see if these things work. As I was saying in another thread, our locals
> are reporting dead birds with West Nile Virus so mosquito control just
> became a lot more important to us.
I'm just skeptical. I'm surely not against the idea of someone going out and
buying one.
-Paul
Paul Onstad
>
> clickers as in sound like bats??????
I didn't get a close look, but it was very audible....not exactly those
halloween clickers but something like it. ..Sounded more like two pieces of
light wood being snapped together.
They were renters next door. They'd take their afternoon walk to the river,
clicking as they went.
-Paul
Tsu Dho Nimh
I remember it from the old Hayley Mills movie "The Parent Trap"
... it scares off the mountain lions. :)
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LeeAnne
working. Since the mosquitos don't really come out in force until it's a
bit warmer (I mowed my lawn last night w/no attacks).
I had it set up for a bit and it seemed to attract quite a variety of biting
nasties - it's a bit of a bitch to move around (it's the size and weight of
a gas grill) - but I think once the mosquito season really kicks in I'm
going to be VERY glad that I have it set up to attract the mosquitos *away*
from me.
Also, the tank only costs about 6 bucks to refill and I figured that the
cost of that and the oct. cartridges is worth the mosquito free atmosphere.
I guess I'll know more at the end of the season -- last year was pure hell
in the backyard!
LeeAnne
-I got my refurbished for $699 thru frontgate.com-
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Pat Bernardin
don't leave our house from June til mid august. Does this work in an area
where you only have a few mosquitoes? Will it work where you have billions?
thanx
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JD CHEZEM
these products===hope this helps!
Mr. Chezem,
Devices such as the "Mosquito Magnet", "Sonic Web", "Dragonfly", and
others
being introduced almost daily will, indeed, trap and kill measurable
numbers
of mosquitoes. Whether this will produce a noticeable reduction in
the
mosquito population in your case will depend upon a number of factors,
e.g.
your tolerance level, proximity of breeding habitat producing
reinfestation,
and species of mosquito present, among other things.
All of these traps utilize some form of attractant that lures the
host-seeking female mosquitoes to a capturing device. In the case of
the
Mosquito Magnet, they are captured by an impellor fan drawing them
into a
net, where they desiccate. Others, like the Sonic Web and Coleman
traps,
use a sticky surface to which the mosquitoes adhere when they land.
The
Dragonfly utilizes an electric grid to electrocute mosquitoes drawn
into
contact. Capture nets and adhesive boards require continual
replacement,
particularly in areas of high catch, to ensure continued
effectiveness.
Attractants used are similar except in the case of the Sonic Web. The
vast
majority of these traps use carbon dioxide, produced through the
combustion
of propane. This mimics human exhalation and makes these traps
specific for
capturing blood-feeding insects. Therefore, nontarget insects such as
moths
and beetles will be largely unaffected. The CO2 is often synergized
with
2-octenol (a derivative of cow's breath) to increase attractiveness.
An
intriguing means of attracting mosquitoes to their demise is that used
by
the Sonic Web. This device attracts the mosquitoes through a
combination of
2-octenol and a sound pulse that mimics a human heartbeat - and it
works! I
was rather skeptical at first, but I have witnessed it firsthand at
the USDA
Agricultural Research Service laboratories in Gainesville, Florida and
they
appeared to capture prodigious numbers of mosquitoes in controlled
trials.
There is some confusion, at present, as to the attractiveness of these
traps
to certain species of mosquitoes. With 176 species of mosquitoes in
the
United States, this is no small issue and will require many years
before
research can provide a clarification. A few years ago the Salt Lake
City
District ran a test of the Mosquito Magnet against an American
Biophysics
ABC trap. They ran each trap for one night and then switched each
trap to
the others location. This was done over about a two-week period.
They
found that the Mosquito Magnet did a great job catching Ochlerotatus
sierrensis , the western tree hole mosquito, but did not catch Culex
pipiens
or tarsalis, or Ochlerotatus dorsalis very well. The ABC trap did
just the
opposite. The reasons for this are not clear, but point out that each
trap
has an operational use.
I've received a number of testimonials from buyers who are
dissatisfied with
these products and the level of support they've gotten from the
manufacturers. Whether these reflect failure to follow placement or
baiting
directions, I don't know. I've utilized CDC Light Traps baited with
dry ice
and collected upwards of 65,000 mosquitoes in one trap night. Indeed,
a
number of studies have shown that traps using CO2 and 2-octenol
normally
catch numbers of mosquitoes several orders of magnitude more than
their
solely CO2-baited counterparts. So the reasons for the failures
reported in
the testimonials remain unclear. The USDA scientists that have
conducted
controlled field studies with these devices state that the technology
is
solid - particularly the counterflow trapping mechanisms in the
Mosquito
Magnets.
I am prohibited from endorsing products, but the science behind these
products is solid. The counterflow technology used in the Mosquito
Magnet
is particularly promising and has passed muster in peer-reviewed
scientific
trials conducted by the US Department of Agriculture. I'd say that
the
Mosquito Magnet Pro probably offers the greatest flexibility. The
propane
source for this device provides power, CO2, and heat - portability.
It's
expensive, though, due to the technology required to convert propane
combustion into electricity. Most of the other devices require either
an AC
power source, e.g. the Coleman traps, the Mosquito Magnet "Liberty"
and
Dragonfly traps, or a proprietary CO2 cylinder for the attractant in
the
case of the Dragonfly. In terms of sheer trapping efficiency, the
Dragonfly would be hard to beat. Although the CO2 cylinder
requirement
might reduce its marketability, it allows the plume of carbon dioxide
to be
metered to optimize attractancy. The electric grid provided in this
model
is extremely effective.
Please be cautioned against putting too much faith in traps as a means
of
control. Depending upon their placement, wind direction, and trapping
efficiency, they may draw more mosquitoes into your area than they can
possibly catch. The advertising claims for acre-wide control are
quite
hyperbolic, being based upon extrapolations from captures of released
mosquitoes made inside enclosures.
You might also look into the Mosquito Cognito, a device marketed by
BioSensory Products. They also make a trap, the Dragonfly, but the
Mosquito
Cognito is rather intriguing. It consists of a plastic casing
enclosing a
fan powered by 2 AA batteries. The fan helps distribute a plume of
Conceal,
a proprietary substance that ostensibly masks human odors to
mosquitoes.
Thus, female mosquitoes do not recognize humans within the area as
food
sources. When I first heard about it, I was exceedingly skeptical,
having
heard a number of claims of this sort in the past that were shown to
be
without merit upon study. Dr Ulrich Bernier, a biochemist studying
mosquito
attractants/repellents at the Center for Medical, Agricultural and
Veterinary Entomology at the USDA labs in Gainesville tells me that
they
work almost as well as advertised - surprised me to no end. Be
advised that
you might need to use quite a few more of these devices than
recommended to
get the required effect. They should work pretty well for a patio
party if
the winds aren't too severe. They're inexpensive too - $30 for a 2
week
supply. I'm not aware of any studies on this product in peer-reviewed
journals, but at this price, you might want to give them a try. This
technology is also offered in the Mosquito Deleto system marketed by
Coleman
and as an adjunct to the Sonic Web.
American Biophysics
2240 South County Trail
East Greenwich, RI 02818-1536
1-877-699-8727
Mosquito Terminator
11999 Katy Freeway
Suite 150-F
Houston, TX 77079
1-281-850-4604
Environmental Products and Research - www.epar-mosquito.com
BioSensory Inc.
322 Main Street
Willimatic, CT 06226-3149
1-860-423-3009
www.biosensory.com
The USDA is currently conducting comparative studies to determine
which of
the many systems on the market performs the best in controlled
studies.
They expect to publish their results sometime later in the year. In
many
ways, these traps represent an evolving technology that is a welcome
addition to our mosquito control armamentarium. Their potential is
great,
but shouldn't be overestimated
Regards,
Joseph M. Conlon
Technical Advisor
American Mosquito Control Association
Phone: 904-215-3008
Fax: 904-215-3008
E-mail: amc...@earthlink.net
Hours: 1:00 PM - 5:00 PM Mon/Wed/Fri
12:00 PM - 5:00 PM Tues/Thu
Paul Onstad
>
> an interesting e-mail recieved from someone who should know about
> these products===hope this helps!
>
> Mr. Chezem,
>
> Devices such as the "Mosquito Magnet", "Sonic Web", "Dragonfly", and
> others
> being introduced almost daily will, indeed, trap and kill measurable
> numbers
> of mosquitoes.
Measurable....like 15 to 20 a night. Meanwhile a single bat can gobble up
500 mosquitos in an evening.
> I am prohibited from endorsing products, but the science behind these
> products is solid.
..apparently not prohibited from dropping the name of the USDA a half dozen
times without providing a reference.
-Paul