"KATELPA" Tree??
Event Horizon
pronounced, and am looking for pics of it on the web to no
avail...it's supposedly the kind of tree a friend of mine has, very
large beautiful leaves.
If anyone knows what I'm trying to describe, I'd appreciate some help.
Thanks. :D
Bill Bolle
http://www.hcs.ohio-state.edu/ODNR/Education/ohiotrees/catalpa.htm
http://www.wellesley.edu/Activities/homepage/web/Species/pcatalpa.html
http://www.forestry.auburn.edu/samuelson/dendrology/bignoniaceae_pg/southern_catalpa.htm
Both the Northern and Southern varieties.
Bill
di
Unknown
wrote:
Catalpa bignonioides ?
http://www.forestry.auburn.edu/samuelson/dendrology/bignoniaceae_pg/southern_catalpa.htm
Paul Onstad
I'm sure it's Catalpa. It's an interesting tree and grows very fast, has
large heart-shaped leaves somewhat lighter colored than most other
(northern) trees. It looks tropical up here (Minn.) and I know it's more
normally found down south (someone pointed out two varieties).
A catalpa is sort of comic--it will shoot up three or four feet but forget
to put smaller branches or leaves in between.
I have a four year old volunteer that I moved from another location. It's
already about 15 feet high.
-Paul
Lauradog
>pronounced, and am looking for pics of it on the web to no
>avail...it's supposedly the kind of tree a friend of mine has, very
>large beautiful leaves.
I believe it is a Catalpa tree. They are wonderful. We have two of them, they
boom with large fragrant flowers in the spring then put out long thin bean
pods. The leaves are large and sort of heart-shaped. This may be the tree
you're looking for.
Lauradog (in Oklahoma, zone 7)
Iris Cohen
flowers in the spring. The rest of the year it is not very graceful. It was
extremely popular in the late 19th, early 20th century. Since then more
suitable home garden trees have been developed but it still has its followers.
As far as I know, it is harmless.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"It is forbidden to live in a town which has no greenery." Jerusalem Talmud,
Kiddushin 4:12.
greg presley
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> The name is Catalpa bignonioides. It has large round leaves & clusters of
white
> flowers in the spring. The rest of the year it is not very graceful. It
was
I beg to differ - it's a very pretty tree when well grown. The leaves and
flowers could compete with nearly any choice tropical tree, and yet it's
completely hardy. Unfortunately, it has no fall color whatsoever, and young
trees do look awkward during the winter. (One bonus however, all the leaves
drop at the same time, so clean up is easy).Some people object to the
hanging seed pods (the "Indian cigars" - its former common name). In some
climates it's short-lived for a tall tree (like 30-40 years), and in the
south I think there's a bug that likes to eat it, damaging the pretty
leaves. But it survives very well on the very meager rainfall of the inland
Northwest, and lives fairly long. Greg
Steve_
someone will correct me as to what they actually are. Its a large
caterpillar that only seem to attack Catalpa trees. My neighbor grows a
string of them just for the worms and is dissapointed if they don't show up!
They are absolutely the #1 panfish bait around. He's a fisherman not a
gardener, thats the only reason he grows the trees, fish bait!
-s-
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Michael Strickland
>Down here in SC we call the bugs oddly enough Catalpa Worms. ;) I'm sure
>someone will correct me as to what they actually are. Its a large
>caterpillar that only seem to attack Catalpa trees. My neighbor grows a
>string of them just for the worms and is dissapointed if they don't show up!
>They are absolutely the #1 panfish bait around. He's a fisherman not a
>gardener, thats the only reason he grows the trees, fish bait!
The worms are the caterpillar of a moth - some bait shops sell them as
catawba worms. The caterpillars will strip a tree clean when there are
a lot of them, but no harm appears to come of it. Sometimes you can get
a couple of crops of worms before fall. I too grow the trees for the
worms, but I like gardening too :-)
Later, Mike
USDA Zone 7, Sunset Zone 32 AHS HZ7 (Villa Rica, GA)
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Event Horizon
this is the tree based on the examples in the links. I think it's a
beautiful tree, tho I've heard people complain about it (maybe due to
fall messy-ness, I don't know). Wish it was in my yard!
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Pooky
When they planted it I was 5, and by my 8 or 9th birthday it was stout
enough to climb and let me onto the roof of the house. When we moved from
that house, the tree was a good size, providing lots of shade. The mess it
makes is not terrible compared to the mess any other tree would make. Just
bigger leaves. ;) (My youngest brother tried to fix nature by taping the
leaves back on one year.- sure miss that tree.)
This was in central Texas, around Dallas, and the tree weathered well there.
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: Does anyone know what kind of tree this is? That's how I heard it
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FarmerDill
>Thanks to you and everyone else for your responses. I'm quite sure
>this is the tree based on the examples in the links. I think it's a
>beautiful tree, tho I've heard people complain about it (maybe due to
>fall messy-ness, I don't know). Wish it was in my yard!
>
There are several varities of catalpa. All are attractive to catalpa worms,
which make an excellent bream bait, but are otherwise unattractive. Some
varieties have large seed pods (Monkey cigars) which contribute to their messy
image. It is a fast growing tree, but like the Mimosa has drawbacks. They were
very popular in the fifties, but much more rare today.
Paul Onstad
I've never seen a catalpa worm up here (Minnesota). The only leaf damage I
can spot is from our hailstorm in June.
-Paul
Brigitte
>>
>
>There are several varities of catalpa. All are attractive to catalpa worms,
>which make an excellent bream bait, but are otherwise unattractive. Some
>varieties have large seed pods (Monkey cigars) which contribute to their messy
>image. It is a fast growing tree, but like the Mimosa has drawbacks. They were
>very popular in the fifties, but much more rare today.
I love mimosa trees. I haven't found any drawbacks so far. What did
you mean when you said that? I too would love to have a Catalpa tree
in my yard instead of the locust trees that I have.
Brigitte
If they don't have chocolate in heaven, I ain't going.
Unknown
Mimosa has wilt disease problems in many locations..
Jeffers Randy
southerners - it's the host of a caterpillar that will catch bream (that's
panfish fer you northerners!) big enuf to filet. These particular
caterpillars are so picky, I have three of these trees along a shade house
that we grow hosta under. I have never been able to bring myself to remove
the tree line because it helps the hosta stay cool in our hot Atlanta
summers, increasing the growing period and keeping the leaves fresh looking.
Her it is early August and I have 'Great Expectations' that still look good.
The catch? I've never seen a 'catalpa worm' on any other plant in our
nursery except the catalpa tree.
FarmerDill
>I love mimosa trees. I haven't found any drawbacks so far. What did
>you mean when you said that? I too would love to have a Catalpa tree
>in my yard instead of the locust trees that I have.
>
>Brigitte
>
them and are messier and less useful than the catalpa worm. 2. They propogate
into thickets if unchecked . Mowing usually holds them down in yards, but
perennial beds will require a lot of extra work. 3. Some folks with asthma have
a severe allergenic reaction to the blooming phase.
GizmoAZ
in my yard, and in the 10 years it has been there I have only seen one seedling
that actually even germinated. I have heard this from several people in this
group, and am eternally grateful that they are not as bad as this in my arid
Arizona garden :)
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Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!!
Steve @ Erin
flower again?
Thx
Erin, z.6
Tyra Trevellyn
I don't know which ones you're growing, but in general, they should do,
certainly. Many of these have been developed especially for cutting, and it's
the best way to stimulate more flowers, along with deadheading. Just make sure
you don't accidentally take off any developing buds when you cut the
stem.....you should be able to see them at the leaf/stem junctures. I usually
pinch the plants before the first buds show up to increase the side shoots, but
you'll get these anyway when you begin to cut them for vases.
Before I had enough room to grow zinnias for cutting, I used to dislike them.
Now I enjoy them both indoors and out for their reliability, usefulness in late
summer, and of course COLOR.
Best,
Tyra
z6b nj
Alan Ray
its a catalpa tree
Catalpa bignonioides (Zone 6)
also known as Indian Bean
you can read all about it in Dirrs' book.
al, rla
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Linda V
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> perhaps a Catalpa?
I've heard of katalpa trees, but I couln't tell you if that's one.
^
L
Michele Mauro
HTH, Michele
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Alan Watts
I have a few landscaping problems that are hard to describe in words, but I could post pics from my
digital camera. The problem is that, when I did this a while ago, people were shouting at me that
this is not a binary newsgroup, and that I shouldn't post photos. Is this true?
If I can't post images of landscape problems here, can somebody suggest an appropriate newsgroup?
Alan
Marley1372
irritating when people do this.
toad
Vox Humana
"Alan Watts" <awat...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> This is good. You posted an image and I could see what you were talking
about.
>
> I have a few landscaping problems that are hard to describe in words, but
I could post pics from my
> digital camera. The problem is that, when I did this a while ago, people
were shouting at me that
> this is not a binary newsgroup, and that I shouldn't post photos. Is this
true?
>
> If I can't post images of landscape problems here, can somebody suggest an
appropriate newsgroup?
>
the picture there and then ask the question here with a reference to the
picture. It is a bit awkward, but that is the best way to do it. Some news
servers cancel posts with attachment or strip off the attachment, so no
everyone can see it even if you do try to post it to a nonbinary group.
Marley1372
characteristic crappy yellow/brown fall color of one. Was that pic taken at
michigan state?
toad
MLEBLANCA
<awat...@bellsouth.net> writes:
>Does anyone know what kind of tree this is? That's how I heard it
>> > pronounced, and am looking for pics of it on the web to no
>> > avail...it's supposedly the kind of tree a friend of mine has, very
>> > large beautiful leaves.
>> >
>> > If anyone knows what I'm trying to describe, I'd appreciate some help.
>> >
>> > Thanks. :D
>
Was not able to see the picture, but you might find pictures if you look
for Catalpa.
Emilie
Dave Green
"MLEBLANCA" <mleb...@aol.com> wrote in message
> Was not able to see the picture, but you might find pictures if you look
> for Catalpa.
There are photos at: http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/topics.cgi
The tree is a catalpa, whose creamy blossoms are reminiscent of orchids,
and highly attractive to pollinators. I believe it originated in the lower
Mississippi valey, but has been widely planted. It also usually has a
caterpillar that is widely reknowed as fish bait.
It is commonly misspelled catawba in the southeast, perhaps because of
some false association with the Catawba tribe.
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zhanataya
wrote:
> It is commonly misspelled catawba in the southeast, perhaps because of
>some false association with the Catawba tribe.
>
>
>--
>Dave Green SC USA
>The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com
Or maybe the spelling is following the southerners accent?
zhan
Michele Mauro
"Catawba means "river people," and only came into common use in the
Carolinas after 1715. The name used by themselves was Iyeye (people) or
Nieye(real people). Early Spanish records refer to them as the Iswa (also
spelled: Esaw, Isaw, Issa, and Ysa). 17th century Virginia colonists used
a variation of this: Usheree(or Ushery, Usi). Also called: Anitagua
(Cherokee), Cuttawa, Flathead, Oyadagahroene (Iroquois), Tadirighrone
(Iroquois), and Tetes-Plattes (French)."
From http://www.dickshovel.com/Catawba.html
The word Catalpa has its roots in Cherokee, while the Catawba were of
Sioux heritage.
"The genus Catalpa is composed of 11 species native to North America [2],
West Indies [5], and temperate Asia (China to Tibet) [4]. The name catalpa
is the Native American (Cherokee) name for this tree. "
http://www.windsorplywood.com/northamerican/Catalpa.html
BTW, the Cherokee and Catawba were long time enemies. And here's another
variation on the theme:
"They were members of an important tribe of Siouan stock of the north. The
name Catawba is probably derived from the Choctaw word meaning "divided"
or "separated."
http://members.tripod.com/catawba-people/
Like most tribes, their current name is based on what other people called
them, not what they called themselves. And Catawba is just _one_ of the
common names of the Catalpa bignonioides tree.
And despite what a few web sites mention, the Catawba Tribe is alive and
well in South Carolina and make some of the most beautiful pottery I've
ever seen... http://www.yorkcounty.org/collections/history/catawba.html
And here are a few pieces that I used to own:
http://www.computers4gaming.com/catawba.jpg (from 1960's or so)
http://www.computers4gaming.com/2indians.jpg (from turn of the last
century - 1890 or so)
Herein ends the history lesson! :)
Have fun, Michele
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tree...................................madgardener
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MLEBLANCA
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snipped the lesson
>Herein ends the history lesson! :)
>Have fun, Michele
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> Zone 9b, central Florida
>
Thanks Michele, that was very interesting
I enjoy finding out where words originate.
Emilie
zone 8 NorCal
Bill
mad...@bellsouth.net says...
> hey, around here we call that the sigar
> tree...................................madgardener
>
Indian Toby tree from back in my neck of the woods.
Bill
Michael Strickland
>> It is commonly misspelled catawba in the southeast, perhaps because of
>>some false association with the Catawba tribe.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Dave Green SC USA
>>The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com
>
>
>Or maybe the spelling is following the southerners accent?
Or mebbe the Catawba Indians taught the settlers to use the worms for fishin?
Michele Mauro
college. As an Anthropology major, I was required to take a course in
Linguistics, and the prof had a blast explaining the particulars of our
New Jersey accents (she wasn't a local). We're notorious for "swallowing
our Ts" as in saying boht-el for bottle, and we nasalize our Os, so that
dog literally becomes dawg, quarter becomes qwader, coffee becomes
caw-fee, etc.
Even though I moved from New Jersey over 20 years ago, my accent is still
noticeable. Although, after 15 years in NM, it now has a Southwestern lilt
to it (where you raise the tone at the end, so most statements sound like
questions). I'm not sure what I'll sound like after a few more years in
Florida though. :)
Have fun, Michele
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Oliver Frank
Catalpa speciosa
Jacqueline Davidson
nauseatingly overwhelming.
Jackie
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> Catalpa bignoniodes
> Catalpa speciosa
>
>
Clement Vouilloux
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> There is a tree called Catalpa bignoides (Mexican Bean Tree)
Not to be confused with:
http://www.jumping-beans.com/
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planted by my grandfather. As I recall they had white blooms, and then
turned into long thin seed pods which we kids called
'bananas.'.......Erin
Leona Henderson
when I was in the first grade in 1934 I think, I walked to
school .through a meadow filled with dog fennell and Queen
Anns lace along with other amazing wild plants, up
Washington Boulevard in Union Franklin Co ..across a bridge
under which ran a beautifully clear trickling creek with all
colors of river rock and small water falls, pooling with
minows, tadpoles and craw-dads... just across the creek on
the right was a triangular field of clover which, when being
mowed had the most wonderful scent... on up the hill on
either side of the street, very tall Cataulpa's with huge
clusters of white yellow throated blooms. The blooms fell
to the sidewalk and while they were rather a mess, they tose
that weren't crushed and faded were lovely. The tree with
its large sort of rounded leaves and long pods..seems like
they were over a foot long... or longer, seemed to be a
hundred feet tall as I looked up into them and marveled . I
liked to pick up the flowers that hadn't totally given up
the ghost and, squeezing the bloom made it look like a mouth
opening and closing....
Years later Driving through the area, I didn't see
Cataulpas.. perhaps I missed them but think they had
probably died. The huge Elms that had been in the park were
just big stumps.. and sadest of all, the once lovely little
pebble lined creek was permanently dry and had been for
years.
Leona.
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'worms.' A green smooth caterpillar about 2 inches long eats
all the leaves off the tree and those that are not taken to
use as fish bait, crawl back down the tree, lay its eggs in
the soil around the tree, hatch, crawl backup the tree and
the
beat goes on and on and on every year unless someone
harvests too much of the 'crop.'
Leona.
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