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Jeanne Colin

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Mar 25, 1995, 10:59:47 PM3/25/95
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after tilling the soil in my garden beds by hand (a lovely pastime, great
meditation space, and i get to discover what patterns the shade makes in
my garden), working that wonderful georgia clay for any length of time at
all, my hands are torn and rough, the cuticles painfully wrenched back by
the effort of scrabbling, and even the palms feel like sandpaper.

what remedy can you suggest for mudbathed hands?

H & G BROWN

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Mar 26, 1995, 2:25:23 AM3/26/95
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How about drenching your hands before bedtime in some industrial strength
lotion like the medicated jergens or even a blob of vaseline, cover your
hands with an old pair of white cotton socks and have someone tuck you in?

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Christine Owens

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Mar 26, 1995, 8:18:38 AM3/26/95
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In <3l2orj$6...@netlanta.com> jea...@netlanta.com (Jeanne Colin) writes:

Get a pair of cheap cotton gloves. Lather your hands with
vaseline. Put on the gloves. Wash your hands the next morning.
Wear gloves the next time you are working in the garden.

Chris Owens

Anne VanMeter

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Mar 27, 1995, 12:30:56 AM3/27/95
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On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Jeanne Colin wrote:

> all, my hands are torn and rough, the cuticles painfully wrenched back by
> the effort of scrabbling, and even the palms feel like sandpaper.
>
> what remedy can you suggest for mudbathed hands?


I did this too! Sorry Chris, I'll use gloves later, but hands in the dirt
is more fun the first time out...

I use Bag Balm, the stuff made for cow udders. Got it from mom, who
quilts and has pincushion fingertips. It's heavy like vaseline, but works
into your skin a little bit more. Put it on at night and then put cotton
sweatsocks on top. (I've never been able to find cotton gloves)

Anne

LEAP...@vm.temple.edu

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Mar 27, 1995, 12:39:57 PM3/27/95
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I second Anne's Bag Balm suggestion. Now it can be found in some
garden centers, ordered from garden suppliers as well as in farm
supply stores. It works.

My college roomate's family "adopted" a kid from the beach many
years ago and I was introduced to a dairy farm in Idaho. It was
always -20 when I visited in the winter and my city hands did not
well to pre dawn chores. It must have been Bag Balm to the rescue,
it was always available but I never saw the lid nor could I read
the tin container. You know how everything in a barn gets coated.

Years later I saw a familiar shaped container in a store opened it
and the smell brought back fond memories. I picked up some and it
appeared on to my sailboat where it became "Sail Bag Balm."

Dave Vanderhoof

kl...@cobra.uni.edu

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Mar 27, 1995, 4:15:19 PM3/27/95
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In article <3l34t3$k...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, bor...@ix.netcom.com (H & G BROWN) writes:
> In <3l2orj$6...@netlanta.com> jea...@netlanta.com (Jeanne Colin) writes:
>>
>>after tilling the soil in my garden beds by hand (a lovely pastime, great
>>meditation space, and i get to discover what patterns the shade makes in
>>my garden), working that wonderful georgia clay for any length of time at
>>all, my hands are torn and rough, the cuticles painfully wrenched back by
>>the effort of scrabbling, and even the palms feel like sandpaper.
>>
>>what remedy can you suggest for mudbathed hands?
>>
> How about drenching your hands before bedtime in some industrial strength
> lotion like the medicated jergens or even a blob of vaseline, cover your
> hands with an old pair of white cotton socks and have someone tuck you in?

Garden gloves, if you can stand them, are wonderful for protecting hands.
I rarely use them, so my hands take a lot of abuse. I prefer Bag Balm
as my cure-all: it's a mixture of vaseline, lanolin, and 8-hydroxyquinoline
sulfate with some other good things (smells like hay, to me). It's marketed
as "for veterinary use only", but I have to say that when I used it
per directions on cow udders (its intended purpose), my hands also
improved dramatically. I now dispense with the cows and apply the
Bag Balm directly to me (but don't tell the FDA!). You can get it
in feed stores and vet supply houses, or any pharmacy can order you
a can. Don't pay yuppie prices for it: a 10 oz can (which lasts me about
2 years) should be < $5.00

Apply a *small* dab several times a day, working it in, and wiping off
the excess. I never would have gotten through transplanting season
some years without it.

Kay Klier kl...@cobra.uni.edu



Neefer

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Mar 28, 1995, 7:55:26 PM3/28/95
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I too have clay. I am proud of the callouses on my hands.
They are my tropheys and a testiment to my hard work!

Besides the gloves and the vaseline, you might try working
in compost and sand (I'd recommend rice hulls but make
sure they are well composted. In Georgia they could grow.)
every time you dig. That way, you will be amending the
soil slowly, and someday, you will have nice loamy soil.
Maybe. Mine isn't yet, but I am hopeful.
--
Jennifer in California oak...@netcom.com

Beggars' Blocks and Blind Man's Fancy, Boston Corners and Beacon Light,
Broken Stars and Buckeye Blossoms, Blooming on the Tree of Life

bw...@conlin.com

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Mar 28, 1995, 9:43:24 AM3/28/95
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>Jeanne Colin wrote:
..
>what remedy can you suggest for mudbathed hands?

Ah, Bag Balm. What wonderful stuff! Sticky and greasy if you use too much,
the secret is to use just a light coat. It's got something in it that has a
very light numbing effect - heaven for really chapped hands (and other tender
abused skin). I apply it before pulling on my heavy cowhide gloves and my
hands come out nice and soft at the end of the gardening/handywoman session.

Two places I've found that green tin are pet supply warehouse stores and farm
supply stores. The sewing supply store just started carrying the little
bitty tiny tins, which I took to work to apply to my chapped lips in the
winter.

Samantha

Lianne Barre

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Mar 28, 1995, 10:12:09 AM3/28/95
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Is the store "Lee Valley Tools" available in the States?
It's a fabulous place, specializing in woodworking tools but
with a great range of gardening products as well.

One product that my husband just bought for me is called
Farmer's Friend. I think it's similar to the Bag Balm
that has already been mentioned. It's made of various oils
and lots of herbs (and smells like it!).

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Mcohn

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Mar 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM3/30/95
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On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Jeanne Colin wrote:

> working that wonderful georgia clay for any length of time at
> all, my hands are torn and rough, the cuticles painfully wrenched back by
> the effort of scrabbling, and even the palms feel like sandpaper.
>
> what remedy can you suggest for mudbathed hands?

Hey, Jeanne, I second, third and fourth all the suggestions
you've gotten for using Bag Balm. Many gardeners around here use it. I
discovered it in a livestock supply store here a few years ago. It's
truly wonderful!! You only need a little bit on your hands at the end of
the day. It will feel greasy and you won't want to touch anything for
awhile...then all of a sudden you'll notice it's soaked in and your hands
are soft. (Sidebar: I have brittle nails, but in the summer when I use
Bag Balm the most, my nails grow and are very strong.) (Another sidebar:
My daughter suffered from acne a few years ago and was prescribed Acutane
for six months. The doctor warned us that one of the side effects was
dry skin and extremely dry lips. My daughter suffered from the dry
lips. She tried several remedies, even herbal balms. Then I suggested
Bag Balm. With the first application she could tell the difference. She
got a little pill box and filled it with Bal Balm and carried it around
with her. Never suffered from dry lips again. When she went off to
college this past fall, we got her her own tin of Bag Balm. She's in
Massachusetts and can use it there for cold, chapped lips and hands.
She's even turned her friends on to it.) The smell can be a litte
off-putting at first...but now it's only a comforting aroma.

Mary W. Cohn
Raleigh, NC

Cynthia Donahey

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Mar 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM3/30/95
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LEAP...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU wrote:
: In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950327...@unix3.netaxs.com>
Use vaseline. Then apply the lotion of your choice. It sets the vaseline
for some reason. For some reason, the vaseline doesn't stain clothing
after the application of lotion. You can use this before you go outside
and wear gloves as well. This keeps damage down to a minimum.

gwen baker

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Mar 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM3/31/95
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I know bag balm is great believe it or not we use it in nursing homes on
reddened bottoms it heals them up fast and helps prevent further breakdowm.
Oh okay- My husband strongly suggests old fashioned cornhuskers lotion if
you can find it. A bottle lasts us several years. and sore hands are
soothed after one use.
Gwen

L. R. Fortney

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Apr 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/3/95
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> On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Jeanne Colin wrote:
>
> > working that wonderful georgia clay for any length of time at
> > all, my hands are torn and rough, the cuticles painfully wrenched back by
> > the effort of scrabbling, and even the palms feel like sandpaper.
> >
> > what remedy can you suggest for mudbathed hands?

I've taken to rubbing in some vasoline before I put my gloves on and
using some mechanics hand cleaner (the orange container) at the end of the
day. Seems to work.

--
Lloyd Fortney ---Opinions, just opinions---

Judith C. Price

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Apr 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/3/95
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When I have rough hands, I use a tip from Mary-Ellen's Handy
Hints books. She recommended it for smells like garlic on the
skin, but I think it works for that because it takes off the top
layer of skin.

At the sink, put a small pile of salt in your palm, dampen with
lemon juice (bottled works fine). Rub the resulting paste all
round your hands, concentrating on the worst spots, but not being
too hard on the tender. Rinse off, then apply vaseline or, in
less extreme cases, hand lotion.

This even works on the top, dirty layer of blackheads (uck!)
I don't find it irritating, unless I rub too hard, and it
leaves my hands nice and smooth,

Judith

LEAP...@vm.temple.edu

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Apr 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/4/95
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In article <LRFORTNEY-030...@hepmc7.phy.duke.edu>

>> On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Jeanne Colin wrote:
>>
>> > working that wonderful georgia clay for any length of time at
>> > all, my hands are torn and rough, the cuticles painfully wrenched back by
>> > the effort of scrabbling, and even the palms feel like sandpaper.
>> >
>> > what remedy can you suggest for mudbathed hands?
{edited}

Bag Balm! Try Bag Balm, your hands will love it.
And so will your . . . .

Dave Vanderhoof

Meredith Morris-Babb

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Apr 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/4/95
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>In article <LRFORTNEY-030...@hepmc7.phy.duke.edu>

>>> > what remedy can you suggest for mudbathed hands?

> {edited}
>
>Bag Balm! Try Bag Balm, your hands will love it.
>And so will your . . . .


Ditto Dan's rec on the Bag Balm! FYI, Bag Balm is a cream used by
cattlepersons and farmers to keep the the udders of cows smooth and suptle -
and easily able to expand for the milk production. you can find it a feed
stores, or vet schools. there is some other stuff there called Hoof majic
that is great for your nails!

Meredith

Major

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Apr 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/5/95
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Norwegian formula Neutrogena, unscented, keeps my paws smooth. I've had
friends who swear by the "teat" balm suggested by Meredith.

Sheryl Todd

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Apr 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/7/95
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Another less exotic remedy that might work is Lubriderm. I started using
it when I worked in a tropical fish store 25 years ago and had my hands
in and out of the tanks all the time. It's served me well ever since.

Sheryl


khi...@uoknor.edu

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Apr 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/11/95
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In article <3m480v$s...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> JHH...@prodigy.com (Sheryl Todd) writes:
>From: JHH...@prodigy.com (Sheryl Todd)
>Subject: Re: hands like sandpaper - help?
>Date: 7 Apr 1995 20:41:03 GMT

>Sheryl

I have been using a lotion with rhea oil in it that is excellent. The company
is small and local. Here is the address and phone/FAX:

Rhessence Cosmetics
Ken and Cheryl Hoyt
Rt. 2 Box 306V
Jones, OK 73049

(405)396-2855

Kiki

raf...@nicad4.nic.bc.ca

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Apr 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/11/95
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In article <17376910CS...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU>, LEAP...@VM.TEMPLE.EDU writes:
> In article <LRFORTNEY-030...@hepmc7.phy.duke.edu>
>>> On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Jeanne Colin wrote:
>>>
>>> > working that wonderful georgia clay for any length of time at
>>> > all, my hands are torn and rough, the cuticles painfully wrenched back by
>>> > the effort of scrabbling, and even the palms feel like sandpaper.
>>> >
>>> > what remedy can you suggest for mudbathed hands?

Try this:
Nip the end off a vitamin E capsule and squeeze out the oil;
Work it well into your hands, (preferably just before bedtime,
the stuff is sticky) and leave it overnight. This works well,
even for concrete burns, so I guess it can handle Georgia clay.
Kevin
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Texasexile

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Apr 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/12/95
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I use Johnson's Baby Cream, that thick waxy stuff you buy for diaper rash.
Has lanolin, smells like childhood, or something, and it works! Great for
feet and hands and knees and elbows and all sorts of things!

sdb5@cornell.edu or

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Apr 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/14/95
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> > In article <LRFORTNEY-030...@hepmc7.phy.duke.edu>
> >>> On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Jeanne Colin wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > working that wonderful georgia clay for any length of time at
> >>> > all, my hands are torn and rough, the cuticles painfully wrenched back
I use Bag Balm--of course its meant for cow udders not hands, but our
garden store sells it next to the gardening gloves. Strangely enough, my
cats seem to love the smell.
Sarah

Sarah A Madison-Smith

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Apr 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/16/95
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S.D. Benson (sd...@cornell.eduorjb23@cornell.edu) wrote:
: > > In article <LRFORTNEY-030...@hepmc7.phy.duke.edu>

: > >>> On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Jeanne Colin wrote:
: > >>>
: > >>> > working that wonderful georgia clay for any length of time at

: > >>> > all, my hands are torn and rough, the cuticles painfully wrenched back


Interestingly enough, _Mary Kay_ sells a product called "Extra Emollient
Night Cream" which works wonderfully on my dry hands. Comes in a tub and
is a pink bees-waxy type product. I apply it thinly right after washing
my hands so it helps seal in the moisture. It's not nearly so greasy as
vaseline and absorbs more quickly, but has long lasting effects. An
acquaintance whose hands were destroyed from the chemicals of her
janitorial job tried it and said within three days all cracks were
healing and the dry skin softening. She now swears by it.

One tub lasts me for months. I also use it on minor wounds -- seems to
help heal them more quickly.

Good luck.

Nancy A. Kroes

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Apr 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/16/95
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>> In article <LRFORTNEY-030...@hepmc7.phy.duke.edu>
>>>> On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Jeanne Colin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > working that wonderful georgia clay for any length of time at
>>>> > all, my hands are torn and rough, the cuticles painfully wrenched back by
>>>> > the effort of scrabbling, and even the palms feel like sandpaper.
>>>> >
>>>> > what remedy can you suggest for mudbathed hands?
>
> Try this:
> Nip the end off a vitamin E capsule and squeeze out the oil;
> Work it well into your hands, (preferably just before bedtime,
> the stuff is sticky) and leave it overnight. This works well,
> even for concrete burns, so I guess it can handle Georgia clay.
> Kevin

I've found that Bag Balm works well too. It's antiseptic and has
lots of lanolin in it. It's original intent was for bags of cows,
but people found it worked great for them too. Can be found in
farm supply stores and many *people* stores now too. Comes in a
kind of lime square can.

Sarah Bernier

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Apr 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/16/95
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I use Nuetrogen fishermans formula morning and night. This has really
made a difference. When working in the dirt on a daily basis, I also started
wearing gloves, which I hate.

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JEFFREY CLAYTON

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Apr 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/16/95
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In <3mpo04$4...@nic.umass.edu> s...@titan.oit.umass.edu (Sarah A
Madison-Smith) writes:

>
I use 1 oz. of almond oil mixed with 20 drops of myrrh oil. It is oily
feeling at first, but you get used to it. It also helps heal scrapes,
etc.

Barb

Nancy Roatcap

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Apr 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/17/95
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In article <3mrvb6$a...@news.umbc.edu>, sa...@umbc.edu (Sarah Bernier) says:
>
>I use Nuetrogen fishermans formula morning and night. This has really
>made a difference. When working in the dirt on a daily basis, I also started
>wearing gloves, which I hate.

I plaster my hands with "Hoofmaker", a dressing for horses hooves. Then I
insert them in my gloves. The inside of the gloves are lined with the stuff
and my nails and cuticles have vastly improved. Buy it at the feed store.

Nancy Roatcap
Hacienda Estupenda <%)

Donald Baiar

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Apr 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/20/95
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>I plaster my hands with "Hoofmaker", a dressing for horses hooves. Then I
>insert them in my gloves. The inside of the gloves are lined with the stuff
>and my nails and cuticles have vastly improved. Buy it at the feed store.
>
>Nancy Roatcap
>Hacienda Estupenda <%)

Try Bag Balm available at most drug stores. It is an old formula originally
intended for softening the teats of milk cows. Then the farmers who applied
it found they had the softest hands in town. Really works for me.

Don Baiar
Vancouver WA

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Fellwalker

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Apr 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/20/95
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Judith C. Price (bw...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
: When I have rough hands, I use a tip from Mary-Ellen's Handy

: Hints books. She recommended it for smells like garlic on the
: skin, but I think it works for that because it takes off the top
: layer of skin.

: At the sink, put a small pile of salt in your palm, dampen with
: lemon juice (bottled works fine). Rub the resulting paste all
: round your hands, concentrating on the worst spots, but not being
: too hard on the tender. Rinse off, then apply vaseline or, in
: less extreme cases, hand lotion.

Whats really funny is that thousands of women pay hundreds of dollars
to have that done to their skin in "Spas".

I just buy gallons of Jergens "Ever Soft" (which doesn't wash off
the next time you get your hands wet) and try to keep up with it. It
doesn't sting like Vasaline lotion.

--Max
--
-- ...with rings on her fingers and bells on her toes... <des...@netcom.com>

des...@community.net

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Apr 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/26/95
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As a birthday present, i received a manicure set. Some of the gadgets
included were a bag of sea salt and a small bottle of oil. The
instructions recommend placing a pinch of salt and a couple of drops of
oil on your hands once a week, and rub them as if you were washing them.
This exfoliates the epidermis. Then you are supposed to put on some
lotion. I have tried it and certainly my hands seem smoother after the
scrub.

Gloria

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