Hey PETA, Screw Wildlife
Way Back Jack
the decks, and tear up the cushions on deck furniture. Why? On three
sides of this property, there are woods, farmland, ponds, and streams
.... a wildlife paradise; yet they sometimes get on the roof and try
to access the house. Why? Yes, I'll anti-freeze them and don't care
who likes it.
WOODCHUCKS: are even worse digging burrows near the east side property
line, but at least they have an excuse with the row of mulberry trees
that defines that property line. Still, it's a bitch dodging the
burrows on the tractor. I set a record this year by killing seven of
them, two of whom while they were mating on -- believe it or not --
Valentine's Day. Heh.
WHITETAIL: deer can be dangerous, especially in autumn. One decided
to live under a deck. He had an injured leg. He had absolutely no
fear and would approach the old lady while she played in the perennial
flower garden. Shotgun blasts did not scare him. One day while on a
deck, I dropped a 10 lb. barbell plate on him. He was quick enough to
dodge it but he finally got the message. He spent a few days down
below by the pond but then disappeared.
WILLIE THE WILD TURKEY: adopted us one summer. He terrorized the
cats, attacked his own reflection in auto bumpers, and slept on the
roof, even in thunderstorms. The only good thing about Willie was
that he exterminated most of the cricket population.
ASSORTED SMALL BIRDS: attack their reflections in windows and really
create a mess. This year, a robin, last year, a lady cardinal, the
year before that, a song sparrow.
Still, some wildlife is enjoyable. Young turkey vultures are friendly
and inquisitive while you work outside. Their parents demonstrate a
high degree of surgical skill extracting a brain from a deceased
woodchuck or raccoon through the decedent's eye sockets. Interesting
to observe. Then there were the pheasants strutting and eating a ton
of bugs but they suddenly and mysteriously disappeared 20-25 years
ago.
jeff
I finally got rid of my (small) possum that apparently was living
under my kitchen cabinets.
Now, I have a lot of indoor/outdoor cats who are excellent hunters,
but none took an interest in the possum. In fact they ignored him and
the possum did likewise.
When I finally caught him, he appeared to be in superb condition,
unlike his first grisly appearance.
Jeff
DerbyDad03
re: "ASSORTED SMALL BIRDS: attack their reflections in windows and
really create a mess."
That's not how it was explained to me at a recent visit to the Nature
Center at a State Park.
Me: "Why do you have a single decal of a bird on each of your
windows?"
Staff: "Have you ever had a bird bounce off your living room window?"
Me: "Yes, I assume it's because they can't see the glass."
Staff: "Correct. Now, under normal circumstances, when a bird is
simply flying from one place to another, they would rather not fly
into another a bird. By placing decals of birds on the windows, the
birds turn away and find another route to wherever they were going."
Way Back Jack
wrote:
>In article <4a55f1cf...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Her...@Home.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:
>Why don't you move to a nice retirement community, where you can be
>looked after by professionals?
Problem with that option is that when you live in close proximity with
other people, there are roaches because others aren't as sanitary as
they should be.
After 33 years of urban/suburban living and 32 years of rural living,
rural is the lesser of two evils.
T'anks for the suggestion anyway.
____________
>--
>
>- Billy
>
>There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
>learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
>find out for themselves.
>Will Rogers
>
>http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm
>http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn
Way Back Jack
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>On Jul 9, 9:34=A0am, Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:
>> ASSORTED SMALL BIRDS: attack their reflections in windows and really
>> create a mess. =A0This year, a robin, last year, a lady cardinal, the
>> year before that, a song sparrow.
>>
>> Still, some wildlife is enjoyable. =A0Young turkey vultures are friendly
>> and inquisitive while you work outside. =A0Their parents demonstrate a
>> high degree of surgical skill extracting a brain from a deceased
>> woodchuck or raccoon through the decedent's eye sockets. =A0Interesting
>> to observe. Then there were the pheasants strutting and eating a ton
>> of bugs but they suddenly and mysteriously disappeared 20-25 years
>> ago.
>
>re: "ASSORTED SMALL BIRDS: attack their reflections in windows and
>really create a mess."
>
>That's not how it was explained to me at a recent visit to the Nature
>Center at a State Park.
>
>Me: "Why do you have a single decal of a bird on each of your
>windows?"
>
>Staff: "Have you ever had a bird bounce off your living room window?"
>
>Me: "Yes, I assume it's because they can't see the glass."
>
>Staff: "Correct. Now, under normal circumstances, when a bird is
>simply flying from one place to another, they would rather not fly
>into another a bird. By placing decals of birds on the windows, the
>birds turn away and find another route to wherever they were going."
Oh yeah, we have bouncing birds too, who unintentionally crash into
the windows, often causing harm or death to themselves. I feel sorry
for them.
I'm talking about birds who see their reflections as an adversary,
competitor, or whatever you want to call them. They attack their
reflections numerous times each day, not with crashing force but with
pecks. The mess they make -- spit, snot, or whatever -- is hard to
clean
ctlady
you expect them to just move out because you are here?? It's you who
has invaded their domain. They really are not aware of property
lines. You seem to appreciate looking at them from a distance. Why
don't you just move back to the city and watch the animals in the
zoo? Leave the wildlife alone. They were thre first.
Vladimir Tschenko Badenov
wrote:
>Apparently you chose to live on land where there has been wildlife and
>you expect them to just move out because you are here?? It's you who
>has invaded their domain. They really are not aware of property
>lines. You seem to appreciate looking at them from a distance. Why
>don't you just move back to the city and watch the animals in the
>zoo? Leave the wildlife alone. They were thre first.
Vladimir think you are enviro-nutcake tree hugger, care more about
animal and tree than human. Original poster say that area has lots of
woods, etc. for shelter, living space. No need to encroach on
humans, to tear apart furniture. What does that have to do with
getting food and surviving? Crazy turkey, crazy deer. If human being
tried to live under your deck or violate space of person planting
flowers, you would be on phone in no time calling policemans.
>On Jul 9, 9:34=A0am, Here...@Home.org (Way Back Jack) wrote:
>> RACCOONS: dig up the old lady's annual flower garden, shit all over
>> the decks, and tear up the cushions on deck furniture. =A0Why? =A0On thre=
>e
>> sides of this property, there are woods, farmland, ponds, and streams
>> .... a wildlife paradise; yet they sometimes get on the roof and try
>> to access the house. =A0Why? =A0Yes, I'll anti-freeze them and don't care
>> who likes it.
>>
>> WOODCHUCKS: are even worse digging burrows near the east side property
>> line, but at least they have an excuse with the row of mulberry trees
>> that defines that property line. =A0Still, it's a bitch dodging the
>> burrows on the tractor. =A0I set a record this year by killing seven of
>> them, two of whom while they were mating on -- believe it or not --
>> Valentine's Day. =A0Heh.
>>
>> WHITETAIL: deer can be dangerous, especially in autumn. =A0One decided
>> to live under a deck. =A0He had an injured leg. =A0He had absolutely no
>> fear and would approach the old lady while she played in the perennial
>> flower garden. =A0Shotgun blasts did not scare him. =A0One day while on a
>> deck, I dropped a 10 lb. barbell plate on him. =A0He was quick enough to
>> dodge it but he finally got the message. =A0He spent a few days down
>> below by the pond but then disappeared.
>>
>> WILLIE THE WILD TURKEY: adopted us one summer. =A0He terrorized the
>> cats, attacked his own reflection in auto bumpers, and slept on the
>> roof, even in thunderstorms. =A0The only good thing about Willie was
>> that he exterminated most of the cricket population.
>>
>> ASSORTED SMALL BIRDS: attack their reflections in windows and really
>> create a mess. =A0This year, a robin, last year, a lady cardinal, the
>> year before that, a song sparrow.
>>
>> Still, some wildlife is enjoyable. =A0Young turkey vultures are friendly
>> and inquisitive while you work outside. =A0Their parents demonstrate a
>> high degree of surgical skill extracting a brain from a deceased
>> woodchuck or raccoon through the decedent's eye sockets. =A0Interesting
BQ340
Do what this lady did?:
<http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/euclid_woman_faces_charges_of.html>
MikeB
Restless
wrote:
>In article <4a565971...@news.datemas.de>,
> nos...@here.org (Vladimir Tschenko Badenov) wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:43:37 -0700 (PDT), ctlady <ceil...@att.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Apparently you chose to live on land where there has been wildlife and
>> >you expect them to just move out because you are here?? It's you who
>> >has invaded their domain. They really are not aware of property
>> >lines. You seem to appreciate looking at them from a distance. Why
>> >don't you just move back to the city and watch the animals in the
>> >zoo? Leave the wildlife alone. They were thre first.
>>
>> Vladimir think you are enviro-nutcake tree hugger, care more about
>> animal and tree than human. Original poster say that area has lots of
>> woods, etc. for shelter, living space. No need to encroach on
>> humans, to tear apart furniture. What does that have to do with
>> getting food and surviving? Crazy turkey, crazy deer. If human being
>> tried to live under your deck or violate space of person planting
>> flowers, you would be on phone in no time calling policemans.
>>
>
>As any enviro-tree hugger, such as myself, will tell you, you are not
>separate from nature. If you think you are, then you are the nut case.
>What the lady was suggesting was coexistence, or some concession, like a
>compost pile where the raccoons could get first dibs on the watermelon
>rinds, which might keep them out of your flower beds. I have raccoons
>roaming my yard at night, sifting the garden mulch for food. They do
>some damage but nothing I can't live with. If worse come to worse, get a
>motion activated sprinkler. 'Course, you're gonna forget about it, and
>get drenched;O) You're the one with the big, conceptual brain, you
>should be able to think of some cooperative strategy to reduce
>predations.
>
>Oh, and don't worry, wildlife is getting screwed. Two hundred years ago,
>we could live off the land, now we can't. When are YOU going to get
>alarmed, when, except for the zoos, the only animals left are pets and
>food animals? Our biosphere is dying, and we can only save it, one
>raccoon at a time.
Hey Senator Gore,
If you think that the biosphere is dying, look to overpopulation, but
focus on the politically-correct groups that you lefties include on
the "victim" plantation. They're the ones who're fucking their brains
out.
Way Back Jack
wrote:
>In article <4a565971...@news.datemas.de>,
> nos...@here.org (Vladimir Tschenko Badenov) wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:43:37 -0700 (PDT), ctlady <ceil...@att.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Apparently you chose to live on land where there has been wildlife and
>> >you expect them to just move out because you are here?? It's you who
>> >has invaded their domain. They really are not aware of property
>> >lines. You seem to appreciate looking at them from a distance. Why
>> >don't you just move back to the city and watch the animals in the
>> >zoo? Leave the wildlife alone. They were thre first.
>>
>> Vladimir think you are enviro-nutcake tree hugger, care more about
>> animal and tree than human. Original poster say that area has lots of
>> woods, etc. for shelter, living space. No need to encroach on
>> humans, to tear apart furniture. What does that have to do with
>> getting food and surviving? Crazy turkey, crazy deer. If human being
>> tried to live under your deck or violate space of person planting
>> flowers, you would be on phone in no time calling policemans.
>>
>
>As any enviro-tree hugger, such as myself, will tell you, you are not
>separate from nature. If you think you are, then you are the nut case.
>What the lady was suggesting was coexistence, or some concession, like a
>compost pile where the raccoons could get first dibs on the watermelon
>rinds, which might keep them out of your flower beds. I have raccoons
>roaming my yard at night, sifting the garden mulch for food. They do
>some damage but nothing I can't live with. If worse come to worse, get a
>motion activated sprinkler. 'Course, you're gonna forget about it, and
>get drenched;O) You're the one with the big, conceptual brain, you
>should be able to think of some cooperative strategy to reduce
>predations.
>
>Oh, and don't worry, wildlife is getting screwed. Two hundred years ago,
>we could live off the land, now we can't. When are YOU going to get
>alarmed, when, except for the zoos, the only animals left are pets and
>food animals? Our biosphere is dying, and we can only save it, one
>raccoon at a time.
Actually, all kitchen waste does get thrown into a compost file. You
and your furry friends are welcome to it. That's not the issue,
weenie. What part of "property destruction" do you fail to
comprehend? Also, wildlife that is friendly, showing no fear of
humans, is as a general rule dangerous, especially animals like
whitetail and turkeys that are very skittish usually.
Vladimir Tschenko Badenov
<inv...@kleinpaste.org> wrote:
>Billy <wildbilly@without_a.net> writes:
>> When are YOU going to get alarmed, when, except for the zoos, the only
>> animals left are pets and food animals? Our biosphere is dying, and we
>> can only save it, one raccoon at a time.
>
>Geez...you haven't looked out my back door lately.
>
>I live on 15 acres of nowhereness, northwest of Pittsburgh near the Ohio
>line. On any given day, 20 or 30 deer wander by, mostly at the treeline
>that abuts the open field of the next parcel, ~150ft behind the house.
>Local turkey flocks are positively routine, and I don't mean 5, I mean
>30 or 40 at a time. Raccoons aren't too common, but I see them now and
>again. This year, there is a family of foxes living in the woods
>somewhere just southwest of the house who step now and again into the
>yard, generally at dawn or dusk.
>
>The deer congregate most days in what we've long called "town hall",
>which is a low hollow inside the treeline on the far side of the power
>tower right-of-way, ~200yds due east of the house...except during
>hunting season, when they disappear for parts unknown. They figured out
>long ago when they need to make themselves scarce.
>
>Then there's the possums that often befriend our cats for playful romps
>after dark. Add in the moles and voles that the cats hunt during the
>day. I can't say I'm sorry to see our feline Mighty Hunters having
>success in that department, as long as they don't bring gifts (or
>[worse] half-gifts) into the house. Coyotes avoid the house, but they
>are known to live in the woods down near the creek, still on my property
>but well toward the northeast corner of it.
>
>No bears these days, at least none that we know of. But small stuff
>like toads and whatnot are everywhere.
>
>I could feed my household using nothing but a crossbow, without ever
>having to step outside the yard immediately surrounding the house. All
>I have to do is wait for the game to show up.
>
>It's a funny view of "the dying biosphere" that some folks have.
Billy has bought into the hoax.
Billy
Well shit head, what part of habitat destruction don't you understand?
The human race in in the bull's eye, and you want to piss and moan about
a raccoon? Get real.
--
Way Back Jack
wrote:
Oh you mean the destruction of my habitat by the raccoon?
>The human race in in the bull's eye, and you want to piss and moan about
>a raccoon? Get real.
Hey, if you wanna bitch about Obama and the leftists that are flushing
the US down the toilette, you might wanna take it to a politics group.
Restless
wrote:
>In article <4a567142...@news.qis.net>, ho...@home.net (Restless)
>wrote:
>How about putting that in English instead of neo-speak.
>How about some examples. Think you could do that?
>I have no problem with fucking my brains out. Heartily recommend it to
>everyone;O)
Examples of what, Goron?
You don't believe that it took from the beginning of homo sapiens
until 1950 to reach 3 billion, and then only 49 years to double to 6
billion?
If you're aware of that well-known fact, do you think that it's the
white folks who are fucking their brains out?
--
Dioclese
news:4a55f1cf...@news.eternal-september.org...
Just my observations on white-tailed deer in my area of the woods. The
"wild" ones are real skittish, can't get within 50 yards of them while on
foot. The "tame" ones that inhabit the rural town nearby are much less
likely to run off if a person on foot approaches. Some will let you touch
them in fact. Apparently, some of the local inhabitants feed these deer
frequently with corn, dry dog food, and anything else the deer will eat.
These deer, I would hardly call "wildlife" in the strictest sense.
Behavior modification isn't unusal when acting a a food source. That
appears to be what happened to the deer in your story. Going under a pier
and beam home, or attached deck (no skirt) is not likely for even injured,
wild white-tailed deer.
--
Dave
Ernie Willson
EJ in NJ
Way Back Jack
<ewil...@comcast.net> wrote:
>You didn't mention Squirrels.
Also didn't mention wasps or the time that a huge yellowjacket nest
grew within the exterior cedar siding. Yellowjackets emerged at
several spots within the house trying to find their way out. Problem
persisted the entire month of October 1997. What a hassle!
Also didn't mention the occasional field mouse who gets in.
As for the gray squirrel, his presence has been only a minor nuisance,
digging small holes to bury / retrieve black walnuts and acorns.
_____________
Billy
nos...@here.org (Vladimir Tschenko Badenov) wrote:
Billy has read the numbers and understand them.
Vladimir Tschenko Badenov
wrote:
Billy believes that global warming is man-made; man can reverse it;
and if man doesn't reverse it, will be necessarily catastrophic.
Bill has drunk the Goron Kool-Aid.
Billy doesn't know that there is no longer a consensus.
Billy doesn't know that the global temp has dropped .74 since "An
Inconvenient Truth."
Happy to edify.
z
> Vladimir think you are enviro-nutcake tree hugger, care more about
> animal and tree than human. Original poster say that area has lots of
met a lot of humans. met a lot of trees. by and large, prefer most of
the trees to most of the humans. case in point.
z
> RACCOONS:
no need to post all this, your sexual habits are already known to us,
more than we would like.
Dioclese
news:4a578ac8...@news.datemas.de...
All I know for sure is people are generally stuck where they live, they
can't really move around to where its more comfortable to live. So that
brings it down to a singularity of each and every individual, not a global
thing.
In the U.S. (not the globe), its been more cool up north, much warmer south
and west with less precipitation. Central Texas is about to surpass the
drought of the 1950's I don't know why, I just know that it is. And it
doesn't matter why as we can't do anything about it, climatic or otherwise
man-made in a reasonable amount of time. Either way, the time-line for such
is too substantial for one generation to see that change for the better.
So, therefore, I submit all the political mumbo-jumbo about all this is just
that. Either left or right. Just another political opportunity to take
jabs at each other when there's no reality basis to begin with.
--
Dave
D. Staples
Billy
"D. Staples" <fores...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> There is plenty of room for wildlife, right next to the mashed potatoes.
Really old joke, not to mention the wildlife and the mashed potatoes.