minature lobster looking bug????
Sally S. Fravel
claws, and funky looking back...sorry, that's as close as i've gotton to
it....although my MIL says they do have a bite or sting? to
them....about an inch long, maybe a tad shorter, very narrow for their
lenght....i usually pick em up with my shovel, and fling them across the
yard....should i be killing them??? quite a few in the side garden, a
few in the front one too....
thanks..
:) sally
#;>)
ddobs...@my-dejanews.com
"Sally S. Fravel" <ssf...@home.com> wrote:
> ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete
with
> claws, and funky looking back
Hi Sally, you don't say what part of the world you're in
so that makes identification harder....
The first thing that comes to my mind is tiny scorpion.
Does it have a pointed tail??
Run in reverse??
Strike at you with it's tail?? (poke at it with a stick
to see if it's aggressive).
If it's a scorpion, what you do is up to you.
I wouldn't want 'em in my yard but in this NG you
can get in trouble for suggesting you shouldn't let the
boarer bees chew up your house ;-)
PS I've seen tiny scorpions not much bigger than a nickel
in the sun on old logging roads around
Dale Hollow Lake on the KY-Tenn line.
Beautiful lake!! Just don't go bare foot in the
woods.
Peace!!
Dan D. Louisville KY zone 6
http://users.ntr.net/~ddobson/pond.htm
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its head? Check out http://wrbu.si.edu/www/stockwell/photos/photos.html for
many pictures of scorpions. Be careful!
Jim H
Sally S. Fravel <ssf...@home.com> wrote in message
news:373AD037...@home.com...
> ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete with
Daze424
feed on bugs and are harmless as far as I know.
Sally S. Fravel
likes running through the garden!!!
thank goodness this thing doesn't have a tail like a scorpion!!!!
i'm in zone 8 (hampton, VA)....and this thing is only tops an inch long,
maybe 1/8th inch wide....hmm, my quilting eye is helping with the size
here...not quite a 1/4 inch seam line wide here....LOL
:) sally
ddobs...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> In article <373AD037...@home.com>,
> "Sally S. Fravel" <ssf...@home.com> wrote:
> > ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete
> with
Sally S. Fravel
whew....:) sally
Jim H wrote:
>
> Sounds like a scorpion to me. Is it aggressive? Does it curl its tail over
> its head? Check out http://wrbu.si.edu/www/stockwell/photos/photos.html for
> many pictures of scorpions. Be careful!
>
> Jim H
>
> Sally S. Fravel <ssf...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:373AD037...@home.com...
> > ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete with
m&v
paschal
Is this a black bug? I may have missed something, but didn't notice that
you'd told us the colour. If it's black, it sounds like something I've
seen almost every time I've dug. I'm in Zone 7, in MD. If it's the same
bug I've seen so often, I think it's harmless.
-P.
On Thu, 13 May 1999, Sally S. Fravel wrote:
> ah geez, scare the beegeezus out of me will ya!!! i have a 3yo that
> likes running through the garden!!!
>
> thank goodness this thing doesn't have a tail like a scorpion!!!!
>
> i'm in zone 8 (hampton, VA)....and this thing is only tops an inch long,
> maybe 1/8th inch wide....hmm, my quilting eye is helping with the size
> here...not quite a 1/4 inch seam line wide here....LOL
>
> :) sally
>
> ddobs...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > In article <373AD037...@home.com>,
> > "Sally S. Fravel" <ssf...@home.com> wrote:
> > > ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete
> > with
Jim H
their abdomen. I don't think it is an earwig.
Jim H
m&v <ani...@9ticnet.com> wrote in message
news:9E1C4A91D2DE342F.1C167E48...@library-proxy.airnew
s.net...
> Sounds like an earwig.
>
>
> On Thu, 13 May 1999 13:15:25 GMT, "Sally S. Fravel" <ssf...@home.com>
wrote:
>
> >ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete with
Meg
I Strum
That's disgusting! They are all over the yard in Richmond. Harmless, I
believe, but giant versions shure would make a great bad-B Movie.
FarmerDill
>likes running through the garden!!!
>
>thank goodness this thing doesn't have a tail like a scorpion!!!!
>
>i'm in zone 8 (hampton, VA)....and this thing is only tops an inch long,
>maybe 1/8th inch wide....hmm, my quilting eye is helping with the size
>here...not quite a 1/4 inch seam line wide here....LOL
>
>:) sally
>
If you are in low lying area with a high water table, you may have baby
crawdads (crayfish). Have you seen any mud "Chimneys" in the area?
dill
Mike & Donna McCombs
Donna
Jim H <jim_heimb...@geocities.com> wrote in message
news:szH_2.767$Qy3...@news.flash.net...
> Earwigs don't have claws do they? Also they have pincers at
the end of
> their abdomen. I don't think it is an earwig.
>
> Jim H
>
> m&v <ani...@9ticnet.com> wrote in message
>
news:9E1C4A91D2DE342F.1C167E487744260B.E61FFB61AE859B24@library-p
Bill Morgan
<ssf...@home.com> wrote:
> ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete with
> claws, and funky looking back...sorry, that's as close as i've gotton to
> it....although my MIL says they do have a bite or sting? to
> them....about an inch long, maybe a tad shorter, very narrow for their
> lenght....i usually pick em up with my shovel, and fling them across the
> yard....should i be killing them??? quite a few in the side garden, a
> few in the front one too....
There aren't many things that fit the description. I think Dill may be
right with crawdads. Are you near the water, or in a low spot with water
near the surface of the soil?
Too big for psuedoscorpions, and scorpions have been ruled out. Vinagaroons
do not have claws that look the same. Shrimp are out of the question. Crabs
are distinctive.
Regards,
Bill
--
Center for Room Temperature Confusion
BeeCrofter
Vinegaroons smell funny
Earwigs have a funny rear end they use to fold their wings. No thems not a
pincer.
Tom
There is an extra Bee in the Email address after the AOL.com
Sally S. Fravel
just wanted to let you all know it is earwigs....thanks for those who
mentioned that.....
I love it....all things mentioned did fit the description....just wish
it was the crawdads...yummm, steamed and dipped in butter...i wouldn't
be so lucky...guess that comes from tossing the crabs last year, my one
and only chance!!!
thanks for the help...
:) sally
"Sally S. Fravel" wrote:
>
> ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete with
> claws, and funky looking back...sorry, that's as close as i've gotton to
> it....although my MIL says they do have a bite or sting? to
> them....about an inch long, maybe a tad shorter, very narrow for their
> lenght....i usually pick em up with my shovel, and fling them across the
> yard....should i be killing them??? quite a few in the side garden, a
> few in the front one too....
>
> thanks..
> :) sally
Sally S. Fravel
was trying to scoop it up with the shovel....didn't exactly take a good
look ya know!!! i do know now that i thought the butt end was the
head...
hmmm, wonder do i need new glasses???
:) sally
Jim H wrote:
>
> Earwigs don't have claws do they? Also they have pincers at the end of
> their abdomen. I don't think it is an earwig.
>
> Jim H
>
> m&v <ani...@9ticnet.com> wrote in message
> news:9E1C4A91D2DE342F.1C167E48...@library-proxy.airnew
> s.net...
> > Sounds like an earwig.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 13 May 1999 13:15:25 GMT, "Sally S. Fravel" <ssf...@home.com>
Sally S. Fravel
looking things at the head..not the tail...LOL
:) sally (who still thinks it's a bit like a minature lobster!!!)
BeeCrofter
eating overwintering pest eggs on and around orchard trees.
m&v
>Well I would say crawfish.
>Vinegaroons smell funny
>Earwigs have a funny rear end they use to fold their wings. No thems not a
>pincer.
>
>
>
>Tom
But it could look like one to a novice.
m&v
Victoria
On Fri, 14 May 1999 02:06:05 GMT, "Sally S. Fravel" <ssf...@home.com> wrote:
>
>just wanted to let you all know it is earwigs....thanks for those who
>mentioned that.....
>
>I love it....all things mentioned did fit the description....just wish
>it was the crawdads...yummm, steamed and dipped in butter...i wouldn't
>be so lucky...guess that comes from tossing the crabs last year, my one
>and only chance!!!
>
>thanks for the help...
>:) sally
m&v
>it is an earwig :) ewww...what can i say, the bugger was running as i
>was trying to scoop it up with the shovel....didn't exactly take a good
>look ya know!!! i do know now that i thought the butt end was the
>head...
>hmmm, wonder do i need new glasses???
No. I just tried to think like a new gardener, or someone new to identifying
insects, and it made perfect sense that you would think those were
claw-like...and look like a lobster. We may think alike!
Victoria
paschal
Why do we call it an "earwig"?
How did it get its name?
-P.
me zawadzki
from Old English Earwicga,
from Eare ear + wicga insect
paschal
My grandmother used to believe that they would crawl into
your ears while you were sleeping.
I just wondered where that notion came from...
-P.
Zhanataya
wrote:
I've seen earwigs all my life. Until now I thought it was
pincers. Does anyone remember the program Night Gallery?
They did a guresome show on earwigs going in one ear laying
eggs and out the other ear.
Zhan
John Zimmerman
I Strum wrote in message <7hfmp0$2jm$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
Lauri Loebel Carpenter
"It was a female earwig, and females lay eggs."
And then the creepiest, eeriest, most horriblest scream in TV
history (to my mind, anyway). Eeew, I still get the shivers when
thinking about it.
Anyway, evidently *lots* of people thought that earwigs would
crawl in your ear while you were sleeping (and then eat through
your brain).
-- lauri
In article <Pine.GSO.3.95q.99051...@rac7.wam.umd.edu>,
Nancy Milligan
earwigs, said it hurt. And I've never seen an earwig fly.
BeeCrofter <beecr...@aol.combee> wrote:
> Earwigs have a funny rear end they use to fold their wings. No thems not a
> pincer.
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"It was a female earwig, and females lay eggs."<<
Yeah man...that was some episode, especially after sweating with the guy
through his dementia waiting for the little critter to emerge...
I think the doctor said something like..."Yes...when it emerged, I examined
it...examined it carefully to make sure...It was a female, that earwig...and
females lay eggs..."
BeeCrofter
eggs.
But ya can't always trust your mother.
BeeCrofter
>crawl in your ear while you were sleeping (and then eat through
>your brain).
Here they would starve to death
Jim H
little bug backwards! It all makes sense now. I hate those things! Every
so often I find one in my bathroom. They give me the creeps.
Jim H
m&v <ani...@9ticnet.com> wrote in message
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s.net...
Jim H
depositing a human manure load in a groundhog hole to get rid of it will
keep me entertained the rest of the evening. Thanks for brightening my day!
Jim H
BeeCrofter <beecr...@aol.comBee> wrote in message
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Lou Minatti┊
>
> ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete with
> claws, and funky looking back...sorry, that's as close as i've gotton to
> it....although my MIL says they do have a bite or sting? to
> them....about an inch long, maybe a tad shorter, very narrow for their
> lenght....i usually pick em up with my shovel, and fling them across the
> yard....should i be killing them??? quite a few in the side garden, a
> few in the front one too....
For God's sake be careful. They could be the lone survivors of an alien
species that fled their home planet and crash landed their UFO in your
back yard. And you're flinging them around with a shovel!
--
We're watching you at SpOOk CentralЩйо.
http://www.watchingyou.com
You look like you could use a nice bowl of Frosted Lucky Charms.
!:)>
Ann wrote in message
|Oh, that has boged me out for years! Did you see ER last night?
|Carter pulled this huge cockroach out of some woman's ear...eeewwww!
|
|--
|Ann
I saw that episode. When I was a kid I knew a girl who got a bee in
her ear and then went deaf in that one ear because of it. I've always
slept with my hair over my ears ever since just in case.
Sandra :>)
!:)>
Lou Minatti┊ wrote in message <373CE3...@yahoo.com>...
|Sally S. Fravel wrote:
|>
|> ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete
with
|> claws, and funky looking back...sorry, that's as close as i've
gotton to
|> it....although my MIL says they do have a bite or sting? to
|> them....about an inch long, maybe a tad shorter, very narrow for
their
|> lenght....i usually pick em up with my shovel, and fling them
across the
|> yard....should i be killing them??? quite a few in the side garden,
a
|> few in the front one too....
|
|For God's sake be careful. They could be the lone survivors of an
alien
|species that fled their home planet and crash landed their UFO in
your
|back yard. And you're flinging them around with a shovel!
Along those lines, I recently saw the video Ants and when weeding the
other day, came across a spider and instead to bonking it with my
trowel, I let it pass.
Sandra :>)
Nancy Milligan
hair. I dutifully ate my crusts. My hair is straight!
BeeCrofter <beecr...@aol.combee> wrote:
> My parents used to tell me the moon was green chesse and that onions were skunk
> eggs.
> But ya can't always trust your mother.
> Tom
> There is an extra Bee in the Email address after the AOL.com
--
Ann
>I've seen earwigs all my life. Until now I thought it was
>pincers. Does anyone remember the program Night Gallery?
>They did a guresome show on earwigs going in one ear laying
>eggs and out the other ear.
Oh, that has boged me out for years! Did you see ER last night?
Carter pulled this huge cockroach out of some woman's ear...eeewwww!
--
Ann
Gardening in Zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
Fix the from: 9 is the spam trap!
zhanataya
!:)> wrote in message <92674059...@news.remarQ.com>...
>
>Ann wrote in message
>|Oh, that has boged me out for years! Did you see ER last night?
>|Carter pulled this huge cockroach out of some woman's ear...eeewwww!
>|
>|--
>|Ann
>
>
>her ear and then went deaf in that one ear because of it. I've always
>slept with my hair over my ears ever since just in case.
>Sandra :>)
>
>
Ann
>Along those lines, I recently saw the video Ants and when weeding the
>other day, came across a spider and instead to bonking it with my
>trowel, I let it pass.
I never kill spiders in the garden, they do too much good. It's
funny, I hate them in the house (but I still try to refrain from
murder, unless they are in the bedroom. Then it's time to kill). I
pretty much let be in the garden, unless it's a pest that's going to
do damage.
Robin Sanborn
jim_heimb...@geocities.com says...
> Kudus to Victoria! You nailed it! I didn't even consider that she had the
> little bug backwards! It all makes sense now. I hate those things! Every
> so often I find one in my bathroom. They give me the creeps.
Do you have a cat? Ours loves 'em. With the help of moths in the
spring, we've trained her to come when you snap, because it means a tasty
treat. It's not unusual at all to hear "Fiji <snap, snap> Fij, come
here!" first thing in the morning, someone trying to get her to eat a
silverfish or earwig in the bathtub.
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My indoor (or "misplaced") spiders are carefully transported to the
garden. They are never killed.
--
Ladybug
Sally S. Fravel
(yes, i CAN tell my @ss from a hole in the ground, so i ain't all
bad!!!)
:-) sally
Jim H wrote:
>
> Kudus to Victoria! You nailed it! I didn't even consider that she had the
> little bug backwards! It all makes sense now. I hate those things! Every
> so often I find one in my bathroom. They give me the creeps.
>
Sally S. Fravel
over the fence into the yard with the pool....which is where we should
of tossed the crabs last year....speaking of neighbors you don't
like.....
:) sally
"Lou Minattiйо" wrote:
>
> Sally S. Fravel wrote:
> >
> > ok, what is this thing???? looks like a minature lobster, complete with
> > claws, and funky looking back...sorry, that's as close as i've gotton to
> > it....although my MIL says they do have a bite or sting? to
> > them....about an inch long, maybe a tad shorter, very narrow for their
> > lenght....i usually pick em up with my shovel, and fling them across the
> > yard....should i be killing them??? quite a few in the side garden, a
> > few in the front one too....
>
> For God's sake be careful. They could be the lone survivors of an alien
> species that fled their home planet and crash landed their UFO in your
> back yard. And you're flinging them around with a shovel!
>
Sally S. Fravel
i'm the only one home, i stomp em..unless hubby is home, then i scream
again...and again...until he gets the hint.
long childhood trama with spiders...hate em to this day.
:) sally
Larry & Linda
Sally S. Fravel
:) sally
Jim H wrote:
>
> Too much, just too much! This thread along with the post suggesting that
> depositing a human manure load in a groundhog hole to get rid of it will
> keep me entertained the rest of the evening. Thanks for brightening my day!
>
> Jim H
>
> BeeCrofter <beecr...@aol.comBee> wrote in message
> news:19990514153523...@ng-fs1.aol.com...
> > >Anyway, evidently *lots* of people thought that earwigs would
> > >crawl in your ear while you were sleeping (and then eat through
> > >your brain).
> >
> > Here they would starve to death
> >
> >
BeeCrofter
>> > >Along those lines, I recently saw the video Ants and when weeding the
>> > >other day, came across a spider and instead to bonking it with my
>> > >trowel, I let it pass.
>> >
Is the video Ants the one with Woody Allen?
Is he screwing the larvae in the movie too?
Bill Morgan
beecr...@aol.comBee (BeeCrofter) wrote:
> >
> >> > >Along those lines, I recently saw the video Ants and when weeding the
> >> > >other day, came across a spider and instead to bonking it with my
> >> > >trowel, I let it pass.
> >> >
>
> Is the video Ants the one with Woody Allen?
> Is he screwing the larvae in the movie too?
>
No, but he falls in love with his sister.
Regards,
Bill
--
Center for Room Temperature Confusion
Richard Krape
Helgramites? It is a good bass bait found under rocks in streams. They
do come out of the water in the spring to do their thing. They are dark
to black, have mean pincers, and look like a lobster.
Jessie
>
> I never kill spiders in the garden, they do too much good. It's
> funny, I hate them in the house (but I still try to refrain from
> murder, unless they are in the bedroom. Then it's time to kill). I
> pretty much let be in the garden, unless it's a pest that's going to
> do damage.
Awwww, no -- spiders in my house get scooped up in a jar and
deposited outside. Except for daddy-longlegs (yeah, yeah, I
know they're not arachnids) which get picked up by one leg
and escorted to the door.
--
Jessie
New York City
j e s 2 2 at columbia dot edu
==================================
note the spam Trap
==================================
Jessie
yours I've seen that did nothing but repeat in its entirety
the previous post -- no comment, nothing. Is this some new
form of trolling or what?
Larry & Linda wrote:
>
> Ladybug wrote:
> >
> > Ann wrote:
> > >
> > > "!:)>" <false...@nospamme.com> expounded:
> > >
> > > >Along those lines, I recently saw the video Ants and when weeding the
> > > >other day, came across a spider and instead to bonking it with my
> > > >trowel, I let it pass.
> > >
> > > I never kill spiders in the garden, they do too much good. It's
> > > funny, I hate them in the house (but I still try to refrain from
> > > murder, unless they are in the bedroom. Then it's time to kill). I
> > > pretty much let be in the garden, unless it's a pest that's going to
> > > do damage.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ann
> > > Gardening in Zone 6a
> > > Just south of Boston, MA
> > > Fix the from: 9 is the spam trap!
> >
> > My indoor (or "misplaced") spiders are carefully transported to the
> > garden. They are never killed.
> > --
> > Ladybug
--
zhanataya
>Awwww, no -- spiders in my house get scooped up in a jar and
>deposited outside. Except for daddy-longlegs (yeah, yeah, I
>know they're not arachnids) which get picked up by one leg
>and escorted to the door.
>
>Jessie
>New York City
>j e s 2 2 at columbia dot edu
>==================================
>note the spam Trap
>==================================
>
>
I didn't know that about Daddy-long legs. What are they?
Zhan
+
|>
|
|I didn't know that about Daddy-long legs. What are they?
|
|Zhan
Their also called crane flies. Long brown legs, body small and
suspended off ground. A bit freaky when they walk across you while
sleeping (all mine like to live in the house).
Sandra
p.s. I referenced a movie earlier, should have read *A Bugs Life* not
*Ants*. Who can keep them apart when hollywood makes knock-offs each
year...remember a few years back, no less than 3 volcano movies? :>)
|
B & J
> Except for daddy-longlegs (yeah, yeah, I
> >know they're not arachnids) which get picked up by one leg
> >and escorted to the door.
>
> >--
> >Jessie
>
>
> I didn't know that about Daddy-long legs. What are they?
>
> Zhan
Hmmm... The daddy-longlegs I know and enjoy (better known as
harvestman) are arachnids. They superficially resemble a true
spider but have small rounded body and very long slender legs. I
often find them sitting on plants or in dusty, protected places
around the outside of the house. However, it could be a regional
name thing...
John
Bill Morgan
<zhan...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't know that about Daddy-long legs. What are they?
Three things are called that.
One is an insect, the crane fly (looks like a giant mosquito, but doesn't bite).
One is a spider, the cellar spider. These are long-legged, light brown
spiders that build fragile webs, often in basements and caves.
The third is a harvestman: a spider relative that cruises around in grass
and tall weeds, eating insects. It's segmented abdomen tells you that it is
no spider: no modern spider has that.
Bill Morgan
> > Except for daddy-longlegs (yeah, yeah, I
> > >know they're not arachnids) which get picked up by one leg
> > >and escorted to the door.
> >
> > >--
> > >Jessie
> >
> >
> > I didn't know that about Daddy-long legs. What are they?
> >
> > Zhan
>
> Hmmm... The daddy-longlegs I know and enjoy (better known as
> harvestman) are arachnids. They superficially resemble a true
> spider but have small rounded body and very long slender legs. I
> often find them sitting on plants or in dusty, protected places
> around the outside of the house. However, it could be a regional
> name thing...
>
As noted back in the original thread, there are three critters that go by
name. One spider, the harvestman (what I called "daddy longlegs" when I was
a kid), and crane flies.
zhanataya
Bill Morgan wrote in message ...
>In article <7hp3nj$l3v$1...@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>, "zhanataya"
><zhan...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>
>
>One is an insect, the crane fly (looks like a giant mosquito, but doesn't
bite).
>
>One is a spider, the cellar spider. These are long-legged, light brown
>spiders that build fragile webs, often in basements and caves.
>
>The third is a harvestman: a spider relative that cruises around in grass
>and tall weeds, eating insects. It's segmented abdomen tells you that it is
>no spider: no modern spider has that.
>
>Bill
>
>--
>Center for Room Temperature Confusion/*
The second one the cellar spider is what I've got. I'm a spider lover and
these guys are one of my favorites. They're way to fragile though.
Zhan
zhanataya
B & J wrote in message <37403F4F...@centuryinter.net>...
>Hmmm... The daddy-longlegs I know and enjoy (better known as
>harvestman) are arachnids. They superficially resemble a true
>spider but have small rounded body and very long slender legs. I
>often find them sitting on plants or in dusty, protected places
>around the outside of the house. However, it could be a regional
>name thing...
>
>John
>
>
The ones I'm calling Daddy-longlegs are in the house and garage. I can't
remember ever seeing them in the yard. Messy webs. I think they're
responsible for the cob webs in the house. At least I've convinced Hubby
they are.
Zhan
Doug Yanega
<zhan...@mindspring.com> wrote:
You're talking about a different thing, then, a type of true spider called
a pholcid. Common names should be avoided, here's a prime example why.
Doug Yanega Dept. of Entomology
Entomology Research Museum Univ. of California
Riverside, CA 92521 909-787-4315
http://www.icb.ufmg.br/~dyanega/
"There are some enterprises in which a careful disorderliness is
the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick
Bill Morgan
dya...@pop.ucr.edu (Doug Yanega) wrote:
>
> You're talking about a different thing, then, a type of true spider called
> a pholcid. Common names should be avoided, here's a prime example why.
No, this is only a *very good* example. I think "pigweed" still rules as
the prime example.
Don't call me any of your common names. And while we're on the subject,
what kind of species gives itself a scientific name that can be loosely
translated as "wise guy"? What are we, the 6 billion stooges?
Why, I oughtta....
zhanataya
So now we're up to four critters with this name. Well it's an affectionate
name and I like my spider so I'll keep the name. Besides it makes for an
interesting debate when no one is talking about the same thing. ;-)
Zhan
Bill Morgan
<zhan...@mindspring.com> wrote:
I demand a recount. I think there's still just the three...in case I've
missed something, what are the four?
zhanataya
>
>I demand a recount. I think there's still just the three...in case I've
>missed something, what are the four?
>
>Regards,
>Bill
>
>--
>Center for Room Temperature Confusion
1. Crane flies 2. arachnids 3. harvestman 4. pholcid Or are 2 and 4
the same thing? Or are 2 and 3 the same thing?
BTW What is pig weed?
Zhan
Richard Krape
poisonous bites of all creatures. Isn't it wonderful that they are so
small that they can't harm you? Bergall :-)
Zhanataya
A joke right?
B & J
> BTW What is pig weed?
>
> Zhan
Trouble maker! ;) Pig weeds (a.k.a. giant rag weeds) were those things that
grew a gazillion feet tall in high organic places such as old hog pastures.
John
BeeCrofter
aka lambs quarters
aka amaranth
good in a salad
Marsha Huckins
Doug Yanega
<zhan...@mindspring.com> wrote:
3 and 4 are both types of arachnids, but #4 is a spider and #3 is not.
Richard Krape
forgotten source is wrong. The information I was given was that if a
daddy long legs spider was as large as a black widow, and had fangs
large enough to puncture our skin, it would be a deadly menace worse
than any other spider. Bergall
Richard Krape
and nutritious. Cook leaves briefly like spinach. Check Euell Gibbons
for a good resource. A personal rating of pigweed is " yummy". Bergall
:-)
Zhanataya
Then why can't they harm us? are their mouth parts to small
to get ahold or deep enough?
Zhan
Zhanataya
I'm not going to be tested on this at end of term am I? I
thought I had it sorted out when I posted? But here I am
again bragging about my ignorance. I thought arachnid meant
spider. And pholcid was probably a sub specis.
Zhan
+
up by hand (and deposit in toilet...woosh!). All other spiders are
ranked by how many kleenex layers it takes between me and them. 2
being usual, 4 layers reserved for those that go POP.
Sandra :>)
Richard Krape wrote in message
<14854-37...@newsd-232.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
Zhanataya
Aren't the checks and balances of nature wonderful. But I
don't think I'll have quite the same warm and fuzzies for my
Daddy-longlegs.
Zhan
Lou Minatti┊
>
> Oh Great! That was the ONLY spider I felt casual enough about to pick
> up by hand (and deposit in toilet...woosh!). All other spiders are
> ranked by how many kleenex layers it takes between me and them. 2
> being usual, 4 layers reserved for those that go POP.
I like that. It's a good way to rank insects. <g>
--
We're watching you at SpOOk CentralЩйо.
http://www.watchingyou.com
You look like you could use a nice bowl of Frosted Lucky Charms.
Richard Krape
positive. Since I cant find it, Um what was the question? Oh yes, Daddy
long legs spiders ( definitely arachnids ) are completely harmless to
humans and pets. The mouth is so small, and what passes for fangs so
tiny, they can't penetrate skin. They are a beneficial insect that feeds
on mites and almost microscopic critters. They climb, and ground walk,
but I don't believe they spin webs Of all the spiders, these are the
most human compatible, Except the ones that live in water spouts (
Species, inky dinky) Bergall :-)
Zhanataya
nursery rhymes.
Zhan
zhanataya
Zhanataya wrote in message <3743f8a...@news.mindspring.com>...
>Water Spouts? Are you sure? I'd think that one lives in
>nursery rhymes.
>
>Zhan
Don't nobody respond to my previous post. The light dawned while I was
taking a shower. It IS a nursery rhyme. I owe you a gotcha. ;-)
Zhan
B & J
Sometimes it does take a good shower to wash away cobwebs, but why should
anyone show mercy? :)
I'll admit Dick made me think for a couple of seconds, and finally came to
the conclusion that he was closer to a Jimmy Durante spider (Inka Dinka)
than the water spout variety. <G>
John
Richard Krape
inka dinka doo. Attilla The Pun :-)
Bill Morgan
ed...@webtv.net (Richard Krape) wrote:
> Zhan, I know I posted the answer I think. I'm definitely almost
> positive. Since I cant find it, Um what was the question? Oh yes, Daddy
> long legs spiders ( definitely arachnids ) are completely harmless to
> humans and pets. The mouth is so small, and what passes for fangs so
> tiny, they can't penetrate skin. They are a beneficial insect that feeds
> on mites and almost microscopic critters. They climb, and ground walk,
> but I don't believe they spin webs
The daddy longlegs spider (AKA cellar spider) does spin a cobwebby-type
web, and would be unable to make a living without it. I don't know any
references to the potency of its venom.
The daddy longlegs non-spider arachnid (AKA harvestman) does not spin a
web. It also has no venom of any kind. It subdues prey by means of its
greater size alone. The common sentiment that they have highly potent venom
is an urban legend.
The daddy longlegs insect (AKA cranefly) of course spins no web, and has no
venom. Nor does it bite, regardless of its mosquito-like appearance.
Bill Morgan
(Zhanataya) wrote:
> I'm not going to be tested on this at end of term am I? I
> thought I had it sorted out when I posted? But here I am
> again bragging about my ignorance. I thought arachnid meant
> spider. And pholcid was probably a sub specis.
>
Well, you're getting warmer.
Arachnids form a class of animals including spiders, mites & ticks,
scorpions, psuedoscorpions, whip scorpions, wind scorpions,true spiders,
and a few other odd creatures.
As you may recall from High School Biology, a class is a high-level group
(kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, species.)
Spiders represent an order whithin this class, harvestmen are another
order, mites and ticks are yet another, and so on.
Pholcids (cellar spiders) are one of many families within the spider order.
There are several species.
Taxonomy can get complicated, but as we're seeing, common names aren't
always as simple as they seem, either.
Zhanataya
Yeah..... The water spout one is Itsy Bitsy. I've been
had....... twice in one thread. I'm bailing out. ;-)
Zhan
Zhanataya
I'd like to be a fly on the wall if you, Larry, John and
Bill every got together. I Love Puns.
Zhan
Bill Morgan
(Zhanataya) wrote:
So...another glutton for pun-ishment, eh?
B & J
But you wanted to be a "fly on the wall" in a spider thread. In my parlor
you're lunch, woman!
John
Richard Krape
this thead. Bill, thankyou for a well founded summary of the scientific
aspects of the thread. You are a gentleman and a scholar. I also enjoy
your humor. Since the rude flamer was not very lucid, I can only infer
from your notes that I am in error. To one and all, I humbly apologize.
When it comes to the toxic quality of daddy longlegs, I don't know
diddly squat. It is a terrible thing to have CRS and find out that what
you remember is wrong. Does anyone know what a diddly squat looks like?
btw, If anyone needs more information about the inky dinky, inka dinka,
or itsy bitsy spiders, I am well informed. In fact, as long as I stay
within this narrow field,I might qualify as a pun dit. Attila :-)
Zhanataya
Dick, flamers that don't have the testicles to do it on the
ng. should be totally ignored. That's what I'd call a
sneak attack. I just reread the entire thread I couldn't
find anything you've written to encourage flames.
Zhan
m&v
:) Victoria
grdnr
Richard Krape wrote in message
After receiving my first personal E flame, I have reread all posts in
this thead. Bill, thankyou for a well founded summary of the
scientific
aspects of the thread. You are a gentleman and a scholar. I also
enjoy
your humor. Since the rude flamer was not very lucid, I can only infer
from your notes that I am in error. To one and all, I humbly
apologize.
When it comes to the toxic quality of daddy longlegs, I don't know
diddly squat. It is a terrible thing to have CRS and find out that
what
you remember is wrong. Does anyone know what a diddly squat looks
like?
btw, If anyone needs more information about the inky dinky, inka
dinka,
or itsy bitsy spiders, I am well informed. In fact, as long as I stay
within this narrow field,I might qualify as a pun dit. Attila :-)
So Richard...does this mean I can resume picking them up without the
kleenex?
Sandra :>)
p.s. I had a cat who thought all spiders toxic. When she stepped near
one she would leap up and down several times in terror. We called it
the *spider dance*.
Bill Morgan
ed...@webtv.net (Richard Krape) wrote:
> After receiving my first personal E flame, I have reread all posts in
> this thead. Bill, thank you for a summary of
> the thread. Since the rude flamer was not very lucid, I can only infer
> from your notes that I am in error.
[Some deletions in quoted text--WTM]
In error, yeah, but using a common enough myth. I've heard it a zillion
times. It crops up here, and on sci.bio.entomology.misc.
Everyone who posts here is subject to making factual errors. I've made my
share, and I don't know anyone with significant history who can claim
otherwise in his/her own particular case.
I really don't understand why anyone would flame you over thr claim that
daddy longlegs have a very toxic venom. Sure, it ain't true, but
BTW, if shrews were the size of small dogs, it wouldn't be safe to go
outside. They'r vicious, and have to eat 7 times their weight every few
hours in order to survive.
If you've heard that one, forget it. Shrews need maybe half their weight in
a day in order to survive. If they were the size of small dogs, they'd have
less surface area per unit weight (or volume), and would therefore lose
heat less rapidly. Therefore, they would eat proportionately less. They
could be more dangerous than small dogs, but not as much as is usually
believed.
In other words, a lot of these "X would be more dangerous than Z if only
factor Q were different" statements should be taken with a grain of salt.
Regards,
Bill