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All my pears are gone in a day!

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Yi Jin

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Jul 19, 2002, 10:50:32 AM7/19/02
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I have two young Asian pears trees in my backyard. I have about 2 dozen small/medium
sized pears hanging on the trees 2 days ago. But this morning when I looked, none of
them left. Some branches are broken.

We are in a very good neighborhood. I wouldn't suspect the neighborhood kids doing it.
Two of my immediate neibors told me that in their previous house neigborhood, the same
thing happened to the fruit trees: all of fruit were gone at the same time.

What might happened? How do people protect these fruits on the fruit tree? This is the
first fruits we saw since we bought the trees last fall.

Yi

Bill Bolle

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Jul 19, 2002, 11:12:53 AM7/19/02
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Sounds like raccoons. You need a dog or a fence around the trees.
Bill

Yi Jin

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Jul 19, 2002, 11:30:34 AM7/19/02
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So the raccoons ate two dozen whole pieces of pears, including the seeds? They didn't have
any leftovers in the yard.

I'll have the trees fenced next year.

In article <3D382C75...@azalea.net>,

Dutchman

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Jul 19, 2002, 12:44:20 PM7/19/02
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If it is a racoon, a fence won't help much unless you totally enclose the tree, including the top.
Our racoons will move cinder blocks off of trash cans to get what's inside. Since it appears from
your post that you live in a suburban setting, if there are racoons present, they will be well
educated and very good backyard commandos.

One thing you might try is to rent a live trap from one of the local rental shops and bait it with
some store-bought pears. If it is a critter, you should find out shortly and can help it
"relocate".

Dutchman


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Bill C.

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Jul 19, 2002, 5:44:16 PM7/19/02
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Could be a raccoon or it could be kids too. If they cleaned up completely
I'd first suspect 4 legged varmints. Even really good kids have been known
to find fresh fruit just too hard to resist.

Consider pruning the broken branches if you can so they will heal better.

Next year I'm betting you'll have your feed of pears.

Bill C. :o)`


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Allegra

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Jul 19, 2002, 5:46:34 PM7/19/02
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Hello Yi Jin

My husband just said "Gosh, that sounds familiar!"
after I read your post out loud.

Last year we had our multiple Asian pear tree (we
got it from a seller at the Beaverton Farmers Market,
grafted with five varieties and each and everyone a
joy to behold) laden with fruits. We even had to
construct a Y support for the lower branches they
were so rich in fruit.

One morning I looked down from the second floor
of our bedroom window, and nothing. No a single
pear, not a trace of one. We were astounded (we live
about 4 miles from Downtown Portland) as nothing
seems to make sense.

Thought that children could have taken them,
but the upper branches were already well developed
and rather tall for any young person to reach, so
that was discarded as a theory. Raccoons do not break
branches at least in our experience. We had a lot of
them in the old place and they did their "funnies"
as the children used to call them, but broken branches
weren't among them.

Then one neighbor told us how the deer (!!!!) was
using our garden as a free stop for lunch or dinner.
Our roses were gone before they bloomed but then
we only had then the ones left behind by the previous
owners, so we didn't know if there was a problem with
those roses to begin with. Anyway, to make a long story
short, did a lot of research and found two things that have
worked for us, one is called DeerOff and the other is
a homemade mix made with 1 head of garlic (yes, an
entire head you don't need to peel the individual cloves)
1/2 bottle of Tabasco and 2 eggs, shell and all in a blender
with enough water to make 2 cups and turn it to high to
liquefy the whole thing. Put it on the sprayer and add 2
cups of water for each cup of the mixture. We have sprayed
the area and although the deer have come and we can tell
by the tracks, our pears have been left alone.

It smells for about 1 hour when you apply it- we do it in
the evening before going to bed so we don't inflict that on
anyone but I don't mind doing it to the deer <G>

It is harmless to the fruit, our pears were washed
quite well but had no residue or taste of anything
except sweet pears, with the soft crunch of fresh
water chestnuts.

Good luck to you. Check around and see if you have
deer perhaps visiting. If not, the smell will keep the
raccoons away all the same. They seem to hate garlic,
(it shows you what they know!)

Allegra
in Portland Oregon
The City of Roses


Lee Hirt

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Jul 19, 2002, 5:56:27 PM7/19/02
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:44:20 GMT, "Dutchman" <fly...@inter.net> wrote:

>If it is a racoon, a fence won't help much unless you totally enclose the tree, including the top.
>Our racoons will move cinder blocks off of trash cans to get what's inside. Since it appears from
>your post that you live in a suburban setting, if there are racoons present, they will be well
>educated and very good backyard commandos.
>
>One thing you might try is to rent a live trap from one of the local rental shops and bait it with
>some store-bought pears. If it is a critter, you should find out shortly and can help it
>"relocate".

Bait it with peanut butter and jelly and you'll catch them, too. They
also love overripe bananas. So far over the years we have trapped
about 15 racoons.
--

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and over and over again and expecting a different result."

Michelle Hartner

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Jul 19, 2002, 6:16:50 PM7/19/02
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Before trapping and relocating a raccoon, please make sure that it is legal
in your area and in the area where you are releasing the racoon.

In areas where rabies is a problem, there are sometimes restrictions on this
sort of thing that are meant to slow the spread of the disease.

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KrisHur

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Jul 20, 2002, 8:29:30 AM7/20/02
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If you have four feet of clearance you can baffle the trees. You may have to
make one, but the idea is to attach a wide rim around the tree to prevent
the raccoons from climbing up--of course the trees can't be near a fence or
tree where the raccoons can jump to them.

Similar to a squirrel baffle on birdfeeders for an idea of what I'm talking
about see:
http://www.duncraft.com/merchant.ihtml?id=80&step=2

There's also a motion-detector sprinkler that shoots unwanted animals with a
blast of water when they cross it's path:
http://www.leevalley.com/garden/
under "pest control" then under "animal deterrents"

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Tsu Dho Nimh

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Jul 20, 2002, 9:24:18 AM7/20/02
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yi...@wam.umd.edu (Yi Jin) wrote:

>I have two young Asian pears trees in my backyard. I have about 2 dozen small/medium
>sized pears hanging on the trees 2 days ago. But this morning when I looked, none of
>them left. Some branches are broken.

Where do you live?

I would suspect humans (bored children, hungry transients)
before animals.

Raccoons would have left a mess, with partly eaten fruit all
over the place. Bears wold have knocked the tree over to get the
pears, then eaten them all.

>We are in a very good neighborhood. I wouldn't suspect the neighborhood kids doing it.

Why not?

Tsu Dho Nimh

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Yi Jin

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Jul 20, 2002, 10:46:45 AM7/20/02
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Thanks all!

I never really see racoons in my backyard. Allegra's experience
with deers seems very close to mine, as we do have familities of
deers frequent our yard - group of 4 to 5, young and older deers.
Often during the daytime.

But the highest pears is about 8 ft from ground. I can't imagine
a deer can reach that high to pick the pears.

Next year, I'll put a wired fenc to keep deers awaye, then some
baffles to keep whatever clime up the trees.

It was very disappointing as this is the first time we actuall
have our own fruits, and our soon to be 2-year old wanted to
have pick pears every time he approached those trees. We just
told him to wait and now he got none.

We are in Maryland suburb. Nobody really comes to our backyard,
so I wouldn't think kids are doing it.

Yi


Tsu Dho Nimh

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Jul 20, 2002, 1:11:30 PM7/20/02
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yi...@wam.umd.edu (Yi Jin) wrote:


>But the highest pears is about 8 ft from ground. I can't imagine
>a deer can reach that high to pick the pears.

They can stand on their hind feet and stretch their necks.
Maybe you had big deer.

>It was very disappointing as this is the first time we actuall
>have our own fruits, and our soon to be 2-year old wanted to
>have pick pears every time he approached those trees. We just
>told him to wait and now he got none.

He's only TWO? Get a few pears from the grocery store and
place them in the branches. Hoist him up and let him "pick"
them. He's too young to spot the trick.

Madgardener

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Jul 21, 2002, 12:18:42 AM7/21/02
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BEARS?? in Maryland??????? ROFLMAO...........honey, we have black bears in
the Smoky Mountains here in Eastern Tennessee, but bears in Maryland are
stretching it. It's gonna either be raccoons, bored kids, someone hungry,
someone greedy, or deer. Which CAN reach high into fruit trees and
especially with the droughts that have hit some of the Eastern seaboard
area's, deer would be my first thought, especially if you have a group of
them in your yard. Eventually you will stop saying "oh how cute" and start
saying "VENISON on the hoof!!" <G> madgardener who lets most things live,
but who will not hesitate to shoot marauding deer who eat my fruits of my
labors and load up the freezer for this winter with free meat.
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Tsu Dho Nimh

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Jul 21, 2002, 9:26:30 AM7/21/02
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"Madgardener" <mad...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>BEARS?? in Maryland???????

I didn't know they were in Maryland. But I have seen bears while
driving in Maryland, around the Camp David area.

Especially with the drought, they would be ranging farther than
ever looking for food.

Betsy

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Jul 21, 2002, 10:23:30 AM7/21/02
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Yup, we have bears in MD. And mountains!

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paghat

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Jul 21, 2002, 10:29:44 AM7/21/02
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In article <kgdljukk195agelgf...@4ax.com>, Tsu Dho Nimh
<aba...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Madgardener" <mad...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >BEARS?? in Maryland???????
>
> I didn't know they were in Maryland. But I have seen bears while
> driving in Maryland, around the Camp David area.
>
> Especially with the drought, they would be ranging farther than
> ever looking for food.
>
>
> Tsu Dho Nimh

No one's considered the very real possibility the pears were taken by
aliens from outer space. I mean, they need SOMEthing to feed the hilljacks
& bubbas they keep kidnapping to experiment on.

-paghat the ratgirl

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color, & ill-smelling." -Ambrose Bierce
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Bill C.

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Jul 21, 2002, 11:57:03 AM7/21/02
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> No one's considered the very real possibility the pears were taken by
> aliens from outer space. I mean, they need SOMEthing to feed the hilljacks
> & bubbas they keep kidnapping to experiment on.
>

Paghat! I thought you were one of the sensible ones on the NG. The very
idea of aliens stealing pears suggests you are spending way too much time
reading, or too much time out in the sun without your hat!

Why everyone knows that aliens steal Corn in North America . In Europe they
steal grain and in New Zealand and Australia SHEEP. Now had you been
speaking about Leperchauns you'd have had some credibility.


YI JIN:

How about taping some pears up in the tree by their stems and allowing the
boy to pull them off. If its taped high enough so he has to reach way up to
grab it, he'll probably never notice the tape, hmmm?

By next year you'll probably have a plan to fight off the Leperchauns.

Bill C. out weeding in the noon-day sun. {:o)'

Madgardener

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Jul 21, 2002, 1:59:20 PM7/21/02
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my most sincere apologies to ye, then. Coz' WE have bears too, but their up
in the Smokies..............madgardener up on the ridge, back in a hot,
steamy, sticky, sultry end of July Sunday in Fairy Holler, which overlooks
English Mountain in Eastern Tennessee, zone 6b
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Madgardener

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Jul 21, 2002, 2:00:16 PM7/21/02
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ROFLMAO.....................lol..............lol.............and THAT'S why
I love Paggers so much, that rapier like wit of
hers............................................................."maddie"
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Madgardener

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Jul 21, 2002, 2:01:43 PM7/21/02
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boy Bill, yer a glutton fer punishment, ain't ya? I'm the same way meself,
though. I usually come in when the sweat starts making my drawers resemble
my need for depends..............................................<GBSEG>
"maddie"


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squirrels.. and they break the spurs as they strip the tree. furry rats with PR.
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Jul 21, 2002, 10:37:40 PM7/21/02
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>squirrels.. and they break the spurs as they strip the tree. furry rats
>with PR.
>Ingrid

That was my initial thought too. The squirrels love our pears, as do the
crows. The crows just eat a few beakfulls and leave the damaged fruit, but the
squirrels carry them off to devour elsewhere. Have also seen deer standing on
their hind legs eating them off the tree.
Lauradog

lee splisbury

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Jul 22, 2002, 11:12:28 AM7/22/02
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im just posting a message for my course

Betsy

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Jul 22, 2002, 12:50:53 PM7/22/02
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I'm glad you are not MY student!

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last year we bought canning jars and a thing to pick them,,,and the next morning they were all gone but 3 and they were dried on the tree and not one foot print and not one brokin leaf this tree is 22feet tall...we said it was aliens,,this happend in greenview ca on main st,,

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Relocating dosent help they will die whithin couple months, cause they will be in another animals territory competing for food, and have to watch what season you move them too they mate between Jan to June, deers also eat fruit off trees,
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