Snakes under the deck.
plat4
I have a problem with snakes in my yard. It seems that they live
under the deck back there. Even though they are relatively harmless being that
they are probably garter snakes ( I think), still................I do not want
them upsetting the kids and my guests. I''ll tell you something though , I had
one that was about 18 inches long confront me and coiled like a SOB and tried
to actually strike my leg!. Probably wouldn't do much damage though because of
their small teeth. I then found the same SOB a week later in my yard snuck up
behind him and promptly smashed him with half a cinder block..........and now I
have a dent in my lawn. Anyway, if anyone has any ideas on how to get rid of
these pests let me know.
Manos
jokeme
J~
LarFlu
says...
decks or storage buildings but I haven't a clue if it is effective or
not.
--
Lar
Jim
First, let's identify the species. Supply the location and physical
description and maybe we can help. If they are poisonous you have a
legitimate concern & may need professional help removing them. If
not, there is no concern. An 18" nonpoisonous snake cannot hurt you
and is likely beneficial.
Snakes are not pests, they are a valuable member of the ecosystem.
Please don't be in a hurry to kill them just because of an irrational
fear. I have several snakes on my property, I let them be.....
OBTW, just because they have small teeth doesn't mean they can do no
harm. A coral snake can be deadly if they bite.....
Jim
Callen Molenda
is to keep you from hurting them! Garter snakes are probably too small to help
with rodent control but we cherish our black snakes around here for keeping us
rat-free; it's one reason we don't allow our dogs to roam, even though we have 100
acres for them to do so. I don't want them killing the snakes.
Can you learn to appreciate or at least tolerate them? They will not hurt your
children. As for guests, well, we once had a black snake who lived in the attic
and once in a while the noise of a party would cause him to slither down the
stairs, causing quite a stir and making us the favorite party story for a while.
Several of our frequent guests even learned to open the door for him so he could go
straight outside after coming down the stairs. ;-)
Callen
plat4
Sorry guys, but I'm from the school that " man shalt have dominion
over all the things that creepeth over the earth" and if I do not want snakes
on my grounds I will promptly kill them or remove them if I can, which I have
done on occasion. Having a black snake creep down the stairs?............wow!.
Would you believe me if I told you that wolverines make good house pets?.
Manos
plat4
Thanks.
Manos
cc
Hey, Manos, I'm with you - ALL THE WAY!! I absolutely cannot and would
not tolerate snakes on my property.
--
Cheryl
To reply remove *spamfree* from name.
***********************
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair.
Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and
all the terrible things that happen to us come because we
actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the
general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
-- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5
Prem Subrahmanyam
vermin that get in your house, eat your food, spread disease, etc.
Personally, I'd take snakes over those any day of the week. And
quoting scripture will do nothing to help you gain the moral high
ground in destroying unharmful creatures that happen to live
near your house.
plat4
>description and maybe we can help. If they are poisonous you have a
>legitimate concern & may need professional help removing them. If
>not, there is no concern. An 18" nonpoisonous snake cannot hurt you
>and is likely beneficial.
>
>Snakes are not pests, they are a valuable member of the ecosystem.
>Please don't be in a hurry to kill them just because of an irrational
>fear. I have several snakes on my property, I let them be.....
>
>OBTW, just because they have small teeth doesn't mean they can do no
>harm. A coral snake can be deadly if they bite.....
>
>Jim
>
I am near positive that it is a garden or garter ( which ever the proper
term is) snake. It is light brown with a kind of cross pattern on the back.
There are only 3 poisonous snakes in the state of New York ( copperhead, timber
rattler and one other but do not remember the name ) but they are exclusively
found in regions of upstate NY I have never heard of any poisonous snakes in
the 5 boroughs ( not likely but anything is possible I guess), I am just 11
miles from Manhattan on Staten Island.
Manos
>
>
>
>
>
plat4
>quoting scripture will do nothing to help you gain the moral high
>ground
No better way to do it than to quote the good book , unless you are a
non-believer and or twist meanings of which I am NOT doing. I also do not want
to turn this into a thread on religion btw. I just want to find a way of
RIDDING my property of snakes. That's it. If you can't help in this regard then
that is fine, but don't try and tell me what I should not do on my own
property.
Now if anyone else out there has any *productive* answers to my question on how
to rid my property of snakes then I would appreciate it.
Manos
in destroying unharmful creatures that happen to live
>near your house.
I a
Paul Onstad
>
> >hose any day of the week. And
> >quoting scripture will do nothing to help you gain the moral high
> >ground
>
> No better way to do it than to quote the good book , unless you are a
> non-believer and or twist meanings of which I am NOT doing. I also do not want
> to turn this into a thread on religion btw. I just want to find a way of
> RIDDING my property of snakes. That's it. If you can't help in this regard then
> that is fine, but don't try and tell me what I should not do on my own
> property.
With all the religious ideology causing problems (for people) in the world,
do you have come up with something to take it out on snakes?
-Paul
Paul Onstad
> Probably wouldn't do much damage though because of
> their small teeth. I then found the same SOB a week later in my yard snuck up
> behind him and promptly smashed him with half a cinder block..........and now I
> have a dent in my lawn.
Are you bragging or complaining?
-Paul
No One
plat4 wrote:
If they are garter snakes you should let them be. They are
likely doing your yard good by getting rid of mice, rats,
roaches, and other HARMFUL critters.
I can't believe that some people would be dumb enough to
kill them. Manos, you do not deserve to own a yard. Move
into an apartment with all the other wimps and enjoy your
cockroaches.
RF
plat4
>likely doing your yard good by getting rid of mice, rats,
>roaches, and other HARMFUL critters.
>
>I can't believe that some people would be dumb enough to
>kill them. Manos, you do not deserve to own a yard. Move
>into an apartment with all the other wimps and enjoy your
>cockroaches.
>
>RF
Go fuck yourself asshole. I'm killing the snakes and there's nothing you
could do about it.
Manos
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
plat4
You're replying to the same post twice I see. Do you have A.D.D. or
just forgot to take your meds?.
plat4
No , I'm taking it out on you because you're an asshole and I know how
much it annoys you that I killed the snakes .
One more thing...........*PLONK*
rosie@readandpost
>
>
>
> Sorry guys, but I'm from the school that " man shalt have
dominion
> over all the things that creepeth over the earth"
i'm with you, at least were snakes are concerned!
plat4
That's right , MY choice not yours.
non-poisonous snakes or rats, mice, and other
>vermin that get in your house, eat your food, spread disease, etc.
That's funny my relatives near me have no snakes and none of those other
"vermin" that you speak of so I guess killing the snakes is ok. I may even eat
the snakes as I hear that they are good eatin!. Maybe some fried onions and
some snake meat sauteed........or maybe casian
style.......OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!.
>Personally, I'd take snakes over those any day of the week. And
>quoting scripture will do nothing to help you gain the moral high
>ground
Yes it does. Now go take a hike.
Manos
plat4
>kill them.
believe that I give a shit about their idiocy laden and assinine opinions
and/or would take their advice. The snakes are dead meat, how about that?.
Manos, you do not deserve to own a yard.
And you don't deserve to use up valuable oxygen.
Move
>into an apartment with all the other wimps and enjoy your
>cockroaches.
I know plenty of people that do not have snakes in their yards and do not
have cockroaches. So again, you're talking out your ass. It's also evident that
you yourself live in a roach infested "apartment".
Manos
Ann
Oh, wow, dented your lawn, huh? That's a shame. And thank goodness
you smashed that totally harmless, and beneficial to the garden,
snake.
They aren't pests, they're part of nature, and if you learn a bit
about them, you'll find there's nothing to be afraid of. Share that
knowledge with your kids. Or teach them to kill for no reason. Your
choice.
--
Ann, Gardening in zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
********************************
plat4
Do you have any good methods to get rid of them or not?. If not please
don't try and tell me or suggest what I should do in my own yard. I'm not
interested in keeping the snakes in my yard and if you have nothing to add that
would help in this regard I am simply not interested in your opinion.
Manos
Profundus
your deck and add a layer of gravel.
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plat4
Maybe clear out the clutter under
>your deck and add a layer of gravel.
Finally, someone that has an actual real world feasable ,workable and
just about sarcastic free suggestion wow!. I appreciate it.
Thank You,
Manos
>
ala...@junk.min.net
>Manos, they're not pests, they're beneficial. The reason they coil up
>and threaten is to keep you from hurting them! Garter snakes are
>probably too small to help with rodent control but we cherish our black
>snakes around here for keeping us rat-free; it's one reason we don't
>allow our dogs to roam, even though we have 100 acres for them to do so.
>I don't want them killing the snakes.
I'd love a few black rat snakes around here.
Alan
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them and determine if any are poisonous. I don't mind garter snakes, but I
wouldn't want any dangerous snakes under my deck either.
zhanataya
Looks like troll feeding time.
plat4
Actually I just found out from a neighbor of mine who works for the DEP
that in fact THERE ARE poisonous snakes in my area albeit not the majority of
snakes, but not rare either!. Now I'm a bit worried. He also told me that I
should have saved the snake that I killed and gave it to him to identify. He's
giving me a snake trap to use so that I won't have to come into contact with a
potentially dangerous snake.
Manos
Dr. Rev. Chuck, M.D., P.A.
>
> plat4 wrote:
> >
> > Sorry guys, but I'm from the school that " man shalt have dominion
> > over all the things that creepeth over the earth" and if I do not want snakes
> > on my grounds I will promptly kill them or remove them if I can, which I have
> > done on occasion. Having a black snake creep down the stairs?............wow!.
> > Would you believe me if I told you that wolverines make good house pets?.
> >
> > Manos
>
> Hey, Manos, I'm with you - ALL THE WAY!! I absolutely cannot and would
> not tolerate snakes on my property.
As if you *could* remove them, short of completely denuding the landscape.
Dr. Rev. Chuck, M.D., P.A.
>
> I am near positive that it is a garden or garter ( which ever the proper
> term is) snake. It is light brown with a kind of cross pattern on the back.
> There are only 3 poisonous snakes in the state of New York ( copperhead, timber
> rattler and one other but do not remember the name ) but they are exclusively
> found in regions of upstate NY I have never heard of any poisonous snakes in
> the 5 boroughs ( not likely but anything is possible I guess), I am just 11
> miles from Manhattan on Staten Island.
Garter snakes. In NY, they're emerging from hibernation about now. They
congregate in established dens, some of which hold tens of thousands of
the scaly little lodgers. Likely, you're fucked, and have no alternative
but to move.
How's Ireland sound?
yew
> Looks like troll feeding time.
Man, I hope this guy's a troll, but I've had so many crazy-ass neighbors
that talk/act just like him...
Brina
zhanataya
Uuuhh I hadn't thought of that. That *would* be really sad.
Tsu Dho Nimh
> I also do not want
>to turn this into a thread on religion btw. I just want to find a way of
>RIDDING my property of snakes.
Strip it of ALL vegetation that could possible harbor the prey
the snakes are attracted to, remove all structures they can
shelter under, and pabvve it to prevent their burroweing in from
the neighboring properties ... yes, it would look like a parking
lot, but have you ever seen a snake infested parking lot?
> That's it. If you can't help in this regard then
>that is fine, but don't try and tell me what I should not do on my own
>property.
It's what you are doing to the wildlife ... the rodent control
snakes perform outweighs the fear factor they might produce in
you. FYI, the accepted way of dealing with rattleenakes here is
to catch them and release them out in the desert. If I can face
down a 3-foot rattler with just a wastebasket as a capture
device, what are you scared of a 1.5 foot garter snake for?
>Now if anyone else out there has any *productive* answers to my question on how
>to rid my property of snakes then I would appreciate it.
Mongeese? Dymanite the deck they live under? Move to an
apartment in the Bronx? If there is food and shelter, even if
you killthem all, more will migrate into your yard from
neighboring properties ... you wiold have to wipe out every
sdnake in the area to prevent them.
Tsu Dho Nimh
The neat thing about free speech, practiced properly, is that *everyone*
gets to do it.
Tsu Dho Nimh
Sheesh ... people who move to the suburbs and then panic at the
sight of the indigenous snakes and aquirrels are such wimps!
Tsu Dho Nimh
> Sorry guys, but I'm from the school that " man shalt have dominion
>over all the things that creepeth over the earth" and if I do not want snakes
>on my grounds I will promptly kill them or remove them if I can, which I have
>done on occasion.
Mark 16:17-18: "And these signs shall follow them that believe;
In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new
tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any
deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the
sick, and they shall recover"
Note ... it says "take up" (as in pick up and carry around),
not "kill". And it says "shall", nor "can if they want to and if
they aren't afraid of snakes" ... so it appears that you have no
choice in the matter. You SHALL take up serpents.
And if you can't take up serpents? Must not believe.
Paul Onstad
Setzler
susan
Callen Molenda wrote:
> Manos, they're not pests, they're beneficial. The reason they coil up and threaten
> is to keep you from hurting them! Garter snakes are probably too small to help
> with rodent control but we cherish our black snakes around here for keeping us
> rat-free; it's one reason we don't allow our dogs to roam, even though we have 100
> acres for them to do so. I don't want them killing the snakes.
>
> Can you learn to appreciate or at least tolerate them? They will not hurt your
> children. As for guests, well, we once had a black snake who lived in the attic
> and once in a while the noise of a party would cause him to slither down the
> stairs, causing quite a stir and making us the favorite party story for a while.
> Several of our frequent guests even learned to open the door for him so he could go
> straight outside after coming down the stairs. ;-)
>
> Callen
>
> plat4 wrote:
>
> > I have a problem with snakes in my yard. It seems that they live
> > under the deck back there. Even though they are relatively harmless being that
> > they are probably garter snakes ( I think), still................I do not want
> > them upsetting the kids and my guests. I''ll tell you something though , I had
> > one that was about 18 inches long confront me and coiled like a SOB and tried
> > to actually strike my leg!. Probably wouldn't do much damage though because of
> > their small teeth. I then found the same SOB a week later in my yard snuck up
> > behind him and promptly smashed him with half a cinder block..........and now I
> > have a dent in my lawn. Anyway, if anyone has any ideas on how to get rid of
> > these pests let me know.
> >
> > Manos
plat4
>that talk/act just like him...
>
Heeeeeeeeellllllllllo , that's because it's people like *you* who are
nuts. Normal people do not take kindly to potentially dangerous snakes or allow
them to multiply out of control in their yards. Man where do you people come
from?.
>Brina ( Malaka)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
plat4
>congregate in established dens, some of which hold tens of thousands of
>the scaly little lodgers. Likely, you're fucked, and have no alternative
>but to move.
>
>How's Ireland sound?
>
Hey genius , just found out it was a copperhead. They've got them in
this area. I'm not like you and would not move to Ireland because of a few
snakes . As a matter of fact I'm thinking of killing and then eating the *non*
poisonous snakes from now on. Last time in Arizona I got hooked on eating
rattle snake it was excellent, can't be far off. I figure some fried peppers
and onions sauteed along with the snake meat would be
excellent........OOOOOOOOOOWWWWWEEEEEEEEEE!.
>
>
>
>
>
plat4
What a twisted idiot. Take up this.................
plat4
>Shoo troll
Oooooooh that'll do it.
plat4
>From: Tsu Dho Nimh aba...@hotmail.com
>Date: 4/17/02 11:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <f5osbu0t0bhbqhs3l...@4ax.com>
How many cups of stupid did you drink this morning?.
>
plat4
Wimp your ass, you're just an inbred wacko that sticks snakes up his ass
billyjoestevebob.
Tsu Dho Nimh
Hey Mboustapa, You're trying to make "pseudonym" look like an exotic word,
lack of culture. What a dolt. No suprise given your mcdonalds, disneyland,
rambo, commercialized uprbringing.
MHN AKWS TH LAI PSEMATA SOU LAI!
LeeAnne
L
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LeeAnne
Unfortunately it's impossible to ask to *not* hear from a certain group of
people - if you don't like the replies you get, the best would be to ignore
them.
I think the local animal control and/or snake expert at the local pet shop
should be able to tell you what they don't like to slither over.
L
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plat4
>
>Unfortunately it's impossible to ask to *not* hear from a certain group of
>people - if you don't like the replies you get, the best would be to ignore
>them.
>
>I think the local animal control and/or
snake expert at the local pet shop
>should be able to tell you what they don't like to slither over.
Thank you, I am begining to see that there are actually some reasonable
human beings on this board. You and a few others have given me some good
suggestions to this problem.
Manos
plat4
Thanks again leeanne!.
Manos
Dave Green
"plat4" <pl...@aol.com> wrote
>
> No better way to do it than to quote the good book , unless you are a
> non-believer and or twist meanings of which I am NOT doing.
You are twisting the meaning, by lifting the verse out of context. The
context is that the earth is the Lord's. Humankind is not the owner, but the
steward, ultimately accountable to God.
Several people have told you, some nicely, some rudely, that non-venomous
snakes are beneficial. More would probably also say the same, if you didn't
have such a chip on your shoulder.
The simple fact is that snakes are better at controling rodents than YOU
are. And, while you may claim your property lines, your actions affect your
neighobors, as well. The good book also tells us to do unto others as we
would be done by. Kill all your snakes and let the rodents multiply to
spread throughout the neighborhood? Or use increasingly risky and toxic
substances to control a true pest (mice and rats), when they are already
being controlled just fine, thank you?
The simple logic is that you need to deal with your own paranoia. And
don't bother flaming me, because you'll be flaming the majority of the
garden group.
--
Dave Green SC USA
The Pollination Home Page (Now searchable): http://pollinator.com
plat4
I'm not twisting anythig, you're just twisted period, and I really have
no respect for your opinion, so you are wasting your time.
Manos
Tsu Dho Nimh
>Actually I just found out from a neighbor of mine who works for the DEP
>that in fact THERE ARE poisonous snakes in my area albeit not the majority of
>snakes, but not rare either!.
http://www.esf.edu/pubprog/brochure/snakes/snakes.htm
SUNY says that there aren't any. Was he joking with you? You
are in the wrong area for copperheads, and I think you would have
noticed a rattlesnake's rattles. What does he say you might
have?
>Now I'm a bit worried. He also told me that I
>should have saved the snake that I killed and gave it to him to identify. He's
>giving me a snake trap to use so that I won't have to come into contact with a
>potentially dangerous snake.
ROFL! Almost every person who hits a hospital ER with a
snakebite was doing something stupid or aggressive. If you
leave them alone they will leave you alone, and if you give them
a choice, they will usually leave the aera you are in.
Callen Molenda
Yeah, I just realized this.
I did get to share my heartwarming story about Chester the black snake, though. <g>
C.
plat4
There are 3 different poisonous snakes in NY . You never asked SUNY. As
for the rest of your post , I do not respect your opinion.
Have a nice day.
Dewitt
<ac...@virginia.edu> wrote:
>I did get to share my heartwarming story about Chester the black snake, though. <g>
>
>C.
It is a great story. Pretty much the only thing that made this thread
worthwhile.
deg
Profundus
often looks like you're talking into the ether.
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zhanataya
<ac...@virginia.edu> wrote:
>Yeah, I just realized this.
>
>I did get to share my heartwarming story about Chester the black snake, though. <g>
>
>C.
Great story. Apparently Chester didn't appreciate your taste in
music. ;-O)
Setzler
susan
plat4
oooooooh yeah right on !
Cassandra~*
> >I can't believe that some people would be dumb enough to
> >kill them.
> I can't believe that some people can be dumb enough to
actually
> believe that I give a shit about their idiocy laden and assinine opinions
> and/or would take their advice. The snakes are dead meat, how about that?.
>
> Manos, you do not deserve to own a yard.
> And you don't deserve to use up valuable oxygen.
>
>
> Move
> >into an apartment with all the other wimps and enjoy your
> >cockroaches.
>
> I know plenty of people that do not have snakes in their yards and do
not
> have cockroaches. So again, you're talking out your ass. It's also evident
that
> you yourself live in a roach infested "apartment".
>
> Manos
You're replying to the same post twice I see. Do you have A.D.D. or just
forgot to take your meds?.
;-)
plat4
I forgot to take my meds.
Manos
ala...@junk.min.net
at 03:11 AM, mom...@aol.com (Mommu3) said:
>Manos, why don't you call your local humane society? They may be able to
>trap them and determine if any are poisonous. I don't mind garter
>snakes, but I wouldn't want any dangerous snakes under my deck either.
Or a local herpetological society, members of which might well come and
catch the snakes for release elsewhere.
Alan
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>catch the snakes for release elsewhere.
>
This sounds reasonable. Do you know where I get their number from?. I
mean is something like this in the yellow pages?
Manos
yew
>Heeeeeeeeellllllllllo , that's because it's
>people like *you* who are nuts. Normal
>people do not take kindly to potentially
>dangerous snakes or allow them to multiply
>out of control in their yards. Man where
>do you people come from?
There's nothing potentially dangerous about your wee snakes, man. You just
don't like the look of 'em. My husband's horrified by pretty much any
reptile, but he doesn't go around killing them with cinder blocks. Get over
it. *You're being irrational*.
Oh, and in the future, you might not want to enter gardening groups talking
about how you gleefully kill beneficial critters. See, you've learned an
valuable lesson...
Brina
Tsu Dho Nimh
> How many cups of stupid did you drink this morning?.
Apparently I had a cup, but you finished off the rest of the
pot.
And I sincerely hope that a brown recluse spider bites you
while you are on your anti-serpent vendetta.
Tsu Dho Nimh
>I did get to share my heartwarming story about Chester the black snake, though. <g>
Couldn't they just install a snakey-door for him?
Tsu Dho Nimh
>>Man, I hope this guy's a troll, but I've had so many crazy-ass neighbors
>>that talk/act just like him...
> Heeeeeeeeellllllllllo , that's because it's people like *you* who are
>nuts. Normal people do not take kindly to potentially dangerous snakes or allow
>them to multiply out of control in their yards.
Where is the evidence they are "multiplying out of control"?
You find a couple of snakes living under your deck and that's
"out of control"?
As for the "dangerous", snakes have NO interest in people as
prey because they know we are too big to eat, and you can walk
right past rattlesnakes without their bothering to even twitch
their tails. It's paranoid/phobic people like you who get hurt
by snakes when they try to kill them.
Funniest thing I ever saw on a hike was the macho fool who
decided to kill a rattlesnake that was visible several feet off
the trail despite the request from otgher hikers to leave the
snake alone. He picked up a largish rock with which to bash the
snake ... and a scorpion clinging to the underside of the rock
ran across it and stung him on the hand (scorpion stings are
instantly painful, very painful). Macho idiot started screaming
about the pain and his certain death from the sting, droppd the
rock, narrowly missing his foot, and had to be hauled down the
trail on a motorcycle because he was too hysterical to walk.
Tsu Dho Nimh
>>Garter snakes. In NY, they're emerging from hibernation about now. They
>>congregate in established dens, some of which hold tens of thousands of
>>the scaly little lodgers. Likely, you're fucked, and have no alternative
>>but to move.
>>
>>How's Ireland sound?
>>
>
>
>Hey genius , just found out it was a copperhead.
They would be good mouse control, and are non-agressive.
>They've got them in
>this area. I'm not like you and would not move to Ireland because of a few
>snakes . As a matter of fact I'm thinking of killing and then eating the *non*
>poisonous snakes from now on.
You mean you didn't kill the rattlers you ate?
plat4
Bullshit.
plat4
>From: Tsu Dho Nimh aba...@hotmail.com
>Date: 4/19/02 4:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <99vvbu89ju2218cpc...@4ax.com>
>
>pl...@aol.com (plat4) wrote:
>
>> How many cups of stupid did you drink this morning?.
>
> Apparently I had a cup,
As is evident.
but you finished off the rest of the
>pot.
Not possible.
ala...@junk.min.net
Probably in the phone book. If not, the local zoo might know of herp
societies in your area.
Wacko!
I guess snakes are more of an issue to some folks than others. I couldn't
eliminate them if I wanted to - there are too many stone walls and woodpiles
around here. So I'm pretty careful around stone walls and woodpiles,
especially in the summer. Every now and then I see a discarded skin around,
but for the most part, I haven't run into any copperheads yet, and I've
lived here over 10 years. They're here, but they don't show themselves
much.
Cya! Wacko!
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