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Dave Westendorf

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Jan 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/19/96
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A friend of mine is searching for a Maple Leaf Hydrangea. I've never heard
of it. My questions;
1. Does it exist?
2. Where does it normally grow (native range)?
3. Where can it be obtained? Does anybody sell it?
Thank you for your kind attention. e-mail replies will be appreciated.

Happy gardening
Dave (in Zone 7, but it feels like 4 or less this morning!)

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Dave Westendorf
Fayetteville, Arkansas, USA
dwe...@comp.uark.edu

Jared Sparks

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Jan 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/21/96
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Dave Westendorf (dwe...@comp.uark.edu) wrote:
: A friend of mine is searching for a Maple Leaf Hydrangea. I've never heard

: of it. My questions;
: 1. Does it exist?
: 2. Where does it normally grow (native range)?
: 3. Where can it be obtained? Does anybody sell it?

How about OAK-Leaf Hydrangea? That's Hydrangea quercifolia, hardy to
USDA 5 (colder than Arkansas).
Oak-leaf is the only hydrangea I know with lobed leaves.
But "Maple-leaf" isn't a bad description of this hydrangea at all!
I'll bet the hydrangea your friend seeks is this one. It's a
handsome shrub, pretty much free of trouble, for shade, part-sun.
Jared Sparks, Phila. PA
USDA 7-6

Mariann Davis

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Jan 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/21/96
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In article <dwesten-1901...@ppp2.uark.edu>,
dwe...@comp.uark.edu (Dave Westendorf) wrote:
___A friend of mine is searching for a Maple Leaf Hydrangea. I've never
heard
___of it. My questions;
___ 1. Does it exist?
___ 2. Where does it normally grow (native range)?
___ 3. Where can it be obtained? Does anybody sell it?
___Thank you for your kind attention. e-mail replies will be appreciated.
___
___Happy gardening
___Dave (in Zone 7, but it feels like 4 or less this morning!)
___

Do you mean OAK Leaf Hydrangea or maybe Maple Leaf Viburnum?

Hydrangrea quercifolia, the former, is a fantastic shrub that should be
used more. It's tolerant of part-shade, dryish soil, has great peeling bark
(winter interest), and the white panicle-type flowers (not a snowball-type)
gradually fade to maroonish-brownish and make great dried flowers. The
leaves are big, thick and crinkly with lots of substance and texture, and
turn wonderful colors in the fall.
'Snow Queen' has more upright panicles (less flopping over);
'Snowflake' is double? (have never seen it).

One drawback: the juicy fat swelling buds in spring are delicious to some
kind of critter (bunny? deer?) in my garden, because when my plant was
shorter, some got eaten every March!

Wayside sells it for some OUTRAGEOUS price. I got mine at the Scott
Arboretum in Swarthmore PA, but better-than-average nurseries/garden
centers would probably have it.

It is native to the southeastern US. It was supposedly found by John
Bartram in 1791. (Maybe the same trip he found the Franklinia?)
Wyman's says it's hardy to Zone 5.

Definitely a plant worth hunting down.


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Seyem C.L. Holmes

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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Martha Stewar t just referred to them on Lifetime last week- I believe
she called them Oak Leaf. If you can find back issues over the past year
from her magazine, I'll bet you'll find a resource for them.

Dave Westendorf

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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In article <4dtpcm$2...@netaxs.com>, jsp...@netaxs.com (Jared Sparks) wrote:

(snip)


>
> How about OAK-Leaf Hydrangea? That's Hydrangea quercifolia, hardy to
> USDA 5 (colder than Arkansas).
> Oak-leaf is the only hydrangea I know with lobed leaves.
> But "Maple-leaf" isn't a bad description of this hydrangea at all!
> I'll bet the hydrangea your friend seeks is this one. It's a
> handsome shrub, pretty much free of trouble, for shade, part-sun.
> Jared Sparks, Phila. PA
> USDA 7-6

Hi Jared, and thanks for your response.

From your and others suggestions we figured out that my friend's confusion was
not re. "maple" vs. "oak", but "hydrangea" vs. "viburnum." So we're now
looking for a source for Maple-leaf Viburnum. Woodlanders has it, but we're
hoping to find it sold in pots rather than bare-rooted.

Thanks again,
Dave

james R Turner

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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mari...@acy.digex.net (Mariann Davis) wrote:

Ive grown it (Oak-leaf Hydrangea) in zone 5 for many years with great
success. Its beautiful wherever it grows but seems to like plenty of
sun for flowering. Its the first plant in my garden that the deer go
for. Fortunately it survives with this harsh dormant pruning and
blooms on the new wood, so its not a crisis. It is a beautiful shrub.
And most better nurseries have it now. If not Ask them,and they can
easily get it for you.


Tristan Hatton-Ellis

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Jan 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/26/96
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dwe...@comp.uark.edu (Dave Westendorf) wrote:

>From your and others suggestions we figured out that my friend's confusion was
>not re. "maple" vs. "oak", but "hydrangea" vs. "viburnum." So we're now
>looking for a source for Maple-leaf Viburnum. Woodlanders has it, but we're
>hoping to find it sold in pots rather than bare-rooted.
>
>Thanks again,
>Dave

Why in pots? Bare-rooted plants are fine moved while dormant in spring or
autumn, and should have better, more extensive roots than pot-grown plants,
which tend to be a little 'top-heavy' (too much foliage per unit of root)
and therefore sensitive to summer drought. Bare-root plants also tend to be
cheaper.

Tristan


Dave Westendorf

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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In article <DLsqq...@uns.bris.ac.uk>, Tristan Hatton-Ellis

<Tristan.Ha...@bris.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Why in pots? Bare-rooted plants are fine moved while dormant in spring or
> autumn, and should have better, more extensive roots than pot-grown plants,
> which tend to be a little 'top-heavy' (too much foliage per unit of root)
> and therefore sensitive to summer drought. Bare-root plants also tend to be
> cheaper.
>
I tend to favor (and pay more for) potted plants cause I have the
impression that the bare rooted stuff gets "shocked" more during shipping.
In fact I usually pot my bare rooted plants and hold them in the green-
house (over the winter for fall orders, over the summer for spring orders
.... the greenhouse is well shaded and ventilated in the summer) to recover.
In a sense I use my greenhouse as a kind of plant hospital.

But I'm no pro and my gardening activities are governed as much by hunches,
trial and error (a lot of the latter!), and perhaps a touch of
superstition. ;-) I don't think that my concern is so much _survival rate_
as how well the material "thrives" ("thrival rate"? :-).

I'm probably all wrong. Would be interested in hearing about others views
or experience about this issue.

robbie...@gmail.com

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May 16, 2017, 5:29:39 AM5/16/17
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On Friday, January 19, 1996 at 9:00:00 PM UTC+13, Dave Westendorf wrote:
> A friend of mine is searching for a Maple Leaf Hydrangea. I've never heard
> of it. My questions;
> 1. Does it exist?
> 2. Where does it normally grow (native range)?
> 3. Where can it be obtained? Does anybody sell it?
> Thank you for your kind attention. e-mail replies will be appreciated.
>
> Happy gardening
> Dave (in Zone 7, but it feels like 4 or less this morning!)
>
> --
> Dave Westendorf
> Fayetteville, Arkansas, USA
> dwe...@comp.uark.edu

Hi Dave - I just got a cutting of this from a friend of mine. Unfortunately, I am in Dunedin, New Zealand. (sorry, I just saw your address). Hope you have some luck finding it. Yes it does exist, likes shady spots.
Kind regards

Robyn

songbird

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May 16, 2017, 8:11:18 AM5/16/17
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robbie...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 19, 1996 at 9:00:00 PM UTC+13, Dave Westendorf wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

...
> Hi Dave - I just got a cutting of this from a friend of mine. Unfortunately, I am in Dunedin, New Zealand. (sorry, I just saw your address). Hope you have some luck finding it. Yes it does exist, likes shady spots.
> Kind regards

21 years ago!


songbird
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