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Plant ID: Lavender or Rosemary?

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Sandy

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Sep 13, 2002, 7:56:51 PM9/13/02
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Last summer I bought a couple of plants from the farmers' market that
the farmer claimed were lavender. One didn't survive the winter (zone
6, against a south-facing wall) the other is now a 2.5 ft tall bushy
plant. It hasn't bloomed. I have a suspicion that the plant is not
lavender, but is in fact, rosemary. It is very like rosemary that
I've seen before. I've never grown lavender, so am not sure exactly
what it should be like. I think that they are both in the mint
family, so I can't tell from obvious clues such as square stems. I
believe that lavender leaves are scented and about the same shape as
rosemary leaves.

Does anyone have any ideas of characteristics that might be
diagnositic?

Are there keys to cultivated plants that anyone can recommend? (My
limited experience is that keys only refer to wild plants.)

Thanks!!!!

Sandy

Pam

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Sep 13, 2002, 8:29:51 PM9/13/02
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Sandy wrote:

> Last summer I bought a couple of plants from the farmers' market that
> the farmer claimed were lavender. One didn't survive the winter (zone
> 6, against a south-facing wall) the other is now a 2.5 ft tall bushy
> plant. It hasn't bloomed. I have a suspicion that the plant is not
> lavender, but is in fact, rosemary. It is very like rosemary that
> I've seen before. I've never grown lavender, so am not sure exactly
> what it should be like. I think that they are both in the mint
> family, so I can't tell from obvious clues such as square stems. I
> believe that lavender leaves are scented and about the same shape as
> rosemary leaves.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas of characteristics that might be
> diagnositic?

The color of the foliage will be different. Lavenders tend to the slivery
blue-green color and typically the same color on both the top and bottom
surface of the foliage. Rosemary foliage is a true green on top with a
light underside, giving a slivered appearance from a distance.

The easiest way to discern the difference is by fragrance. Lavender
foliage smells like lavender cologne (sweet, grandmotherly) while rosemary
smells...... well, like rosemary! :-)) Pungent and spicy - should make
your mouth water. Rosemary foliage is very strong smelling - the essential
oils which provide the fragrance are far more concentrated in rosemary
than in lavender. Rub your fingers along a stem of rosemary and you will
immediately feel an oily residue.

pam - gardengal

Adam Schwartz

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Sep 13, 2002, 8:33:00 PM9/13/02
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"Pam" <grdn...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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My lavendar smells just like rosemary.
Adam (Iowa City, Zone 5)


Iris Cohen

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Sep 13, 2002, 9:23:56 PM9/13/02
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Rosemary leaves are narrow & silvery. Pinch the tips of the stems. If it is
lavender it will have the unmistakable lavender smell.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much
that ain't so."
Josh Billings (Henry Wheeler Shaw), 1818-1885

Phisherman

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Sep 13, 2002, 11:23:41 PM9/13/02
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The sure sign way to tell the difference is the aroma. Lavender
smells sweeet like a newly opened bar of soap. Rosemary reminds me
of herb used in a soup or Thanksgiving food and has a medicine-like
aroma. Leaves of both plants look similar with the rosemary having
slightly stiffer leaves. Together, these two herbs make nice sachets.

Sandy

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Sep 14, 2002, 4:21:47 PM9/14/02
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> "Pam" <grdn...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> >


> > The easiest way to discern the difference is by fragrance. Lavender
> > foliage smells like lavender cologne (sweet, grandmotherly) while rosemary
> > smells...... well, like rosemary! :-)) Pungent and spicy - should make
> > your mouth water. Rosemary foliage is very strong smelling - the essential
> > oils which provide the fragrance are far more concentrated in rosemary
> > than in lavender. Rub your fingers along a stem of rosemary and you will
> > immediately feel an oily residue.
> >
> > pam - gardengal
> >
>
> My lavendar smells just like rosemary.
> Adam (Iowa City, Zone 5)

Ugh. Really? Drat.

Sandy

Sandy

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Sep 14, 2002, 4:25:54 PM9/14/02
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Pam <grdn...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<3D82840D...@attbi.com>...

>

> The color of the foliage will be different. Lavenders tend to the slivery
> blue-green color and typically the same color on both the top and bottom
> surface of the foliage. Rosemary foliage is a true green on top with a
> light underside, giving a slivered appearance from a distance.
>

Thanks, Pam! The true green on top and lighter underside describes my
plant. Rosemary it is.

Now I just need to keep it alive this winter :).

Sandy

Leona Henderson

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Sep 15, 2002, 12:23:30 AM9/15/02
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animaux wrote:


>
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 00:33:00 GMT, "Adam Schwartz" <swor...@NOSPAMmchsi.com>
> wrote:
>
> >My lavendar smells just like rosemary.
> >Adam (Iowa City, Zone 5)
> >
>

> Your lavender smells like pine?

MY Rosemary smells more like pine and is as mentioned in
earlier post, pretty oily and hands get kind of sticky
handling it; my Lavender smells like nice clean fresh soap.
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Sep 16, 2002, 11:52:37 AM9/16/02
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Hard to understand how off base some of these answers are. Maybe some
of you are confused about what you're growing??

Rosemary: Deep green (that's real green) needle-like leaves. Lots of
different forms from strongly upright to 6 feet to creeping prostrate.
Flowers blue to purple depending on variety, held close to the stem.
Scent, well.... it smells like rosemary.... Kind of piney and
resinous.

Lavender: Lots of species and types. English and French types have
long inflorescenes that rise above the plant with small pale purplish
(lavander, surpirse, surprise) colored flowers. Spanish types have
showier petals and larger flowers. Scent is lavendar-like. If you
don't recognize the differnece between lavender and rosemary scent,
check out the herbs at your local food store. Quite distinctly
different. All lavenders are bluish green, some (french and english)
are pale gray-blue green; others (spanish) are deeper
green-blue-green, but the blue tint is obvious in all. Not so with
rosemary. Every rosemary I've ever seen is green green. Spanish
lavenders are much more resinous than the french and english species
and varieties, and typically much harder to grow. They have mores
substantial form, lacking the light and airy feel of the english
lavenders (Hidcote and the like).

There are pictures all over the web. Have a look. It's just about
impossible to confuse them.

Frogleg

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Sep 18, 2002, 11:31:15 AM9/18/02
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On 13 Sep 2002 16:56:51 -0700, muscu...@yahoo.com (Sandy) wrote:

>Last summer I bought a couple of plants from the farmers' market that
>the farmer claimed were lavender. One didn't survive the winter (zone
>6, against a south-facing wall) the other is now a 2.5 ft tall bushy
>plant. It hasn't bloomed. I have a suspicion that the plant is not
>lavender, but is in fact, rosemary. It is very like rosemary that
>I've seen before. I've never grown lavender, so am not sure exactly
>what it should be like. I think that they are both in the mint
>family, so I can't tell from obvious clues such as square stems. I
>believe that lavender leaves are scented and about the same shape as
>rosemary leaves.

If you can't tell the difference between the scents of rosemary and
lavender, it doesn't really matter what the plant is.

Do a Google image search on both and see what your plant most looks
like.

Frogleg

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Sep 18, 2002, 11:41:40 AM9/18/02
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In zone 6? Surprising it lasted through the winter. It's not supposed
to be hardy here (zone 8), but I had a bush up against a west-facing
brick wall that did well for about 15 years. (Some disease killed it,
not cold.) I would mulch heavily and hope for the best. Rosemary is a
*lovely* plant/herb. BTW, my newish one is "blooming" now -- very
small lavender(!) blossoms amongst the leaves on stem tips.

Pam

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Sep 18, 2002, 10:05:18 PM9/18/02
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Frogleg wrote:

Rosemary is fully hardy in zone 8, providing it has good drainage in the winter
months. There are plants in my area that are a good 20+ years old and are enormous.

pam - gardengal


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Feb 27, 2016, 8:21:04 PM2/27/16
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all this information is so interesting.....My situation was that I bought 3 herb plants at Walmart. The 2 mint ones I could definitely taste and smell the difference. But....since I had never bought rosemary before I picked up a plant that was way behind the front ones which had a sign that they were Rosemary! Okay....simple, I wanted to grow some to use as Skewers for nice meals. When I got home I took the tiny ID tag out to see how to care for this little gem....Uhoh....It says Lavender??? LAVENDER! What the heck do I do with this? That is when I had to go online and try to see what WAS the difference. With the kind effort of somone actually posting a picture of both in their liitle pots I now know the tag was misplaced into my cute little Rosemary and it definitely has a stringent taste as well. So thanks to you out threre who are patient enough to help some of us a difficult time!

David E. Ross

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Feb 27, 2016, 10:18:47 PM2/27/16
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I have both rosemary and lavender in my garden. Rosemary tends to have
individual flowers much like thyme. Lavender tends to have dense spikes
of flowers like sage. The flowers of both are small and bilaterally
symmetric.

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> On 2/27/2016 5:21 PM, bwo...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>> On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 6:56:51 PM UTC-5, Sandy wrote:

Dates are always worth checking when you reply. Still, Sandy's
lavender/rosemary should be a long-lived plant...

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