Copper Nail to kill tree - Wanted
BREENMT
take down due to sewer complications, etc.
Problems is that it is in that strip by the sidewalk that the city
owns.
The city will cut it down if it is dead but will not take out a
healthy tree under any circumstance. I heard that a copper nail will
do the trick and not be very visible to the city workers - like
ringing the bark would be :-)
Any ideas on how to proceed? I can't seem to find a copper nail
larger than a brad at any of the harware stores.
Any help would be appreciated. e-mail if possible.
Thanks, MTB
Dave Schmitz
> My neighbor has a Maple tree (that I just love) that she wants to
> take down due to sewer complications, etc.
> Any help would be appreciated. e-mail if possible.
>
> Thanks, MTB
If you _really_ love that Maple, :-)
you _WON'T_ be helping to destroy that tree ! :-(
Sewer complications?
Well a tree's gotta eat what a tree's gotta eat. :-)
Seriously, don't be a tree killer - find another solution,
please!
Jay Lawlor
Dave> If you _really_ love that Maple, :-)
Dave> you _WON'T_ be helping to destroy that tree ! :-(
Dave> Sewer complications?
Dave> Well a tree's gotta eat what a tree's gotta eat. :-)
Dave> Seriously, don't be a tree killer - find another solution,
Dave> please!
Why?
I don't want to disprove the thread on how nice and polite this
newsgroup is but I really think people go overboard on issues like
this.
I'm assuming that the reason that maple tree is there is because
someone planted it. Maybe they planted it in a bad place. What's
wrong with removing it and maybe planting another one in a better
place?
Should every tree ever planted be considered sacred and can never be
removed? Some people don't think ahead 10 years or 50 years when they
plant a tree. Some of those trees are in bad places and will need to
be removed.
I don't think organic gardening, preserving the environment, etc.
means you have to sit there and helplessly watch a tree destroy a sewer
(thereby possibly allowing raw sewage to pollute the area) or just
let tree roots crack our house foundation or whatever other problem a
tree might cause.
Just my $0.02
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Joel Burgess
the living part of the tree (cambium) all the way around the trunk,
everything above that will die the following season. It still might
sucker, though... Copper nails sounds like a pretty dubious methods to
me, though a lot of salt might kill a maple you wanted to keep.
Joel (earwig, Detroit)
Dave Schmitz
I forgot that other folks live in states with nice warm
climates where trees grow like weeds.
My perspective is different.
I grew up in a state where growing an evergreen tree was a real
accomplishment, as they would die even with care. All trees
were hard to get started - it was a tough climate.
The original poster said he loved that Maple.
If so, then why help destroy it?
Why are you so ready to assume that there is no alternative?
It doesn't hurt to encourage looking for other solutions first.
In article 94Jun7...@ptdi12.intel.com, jla...@ptdi12.intel.com (Jay Lawlor) writes:
>
>
> Dave> If you _really_ love that Maple, :-)
> Dave> you _WON'T_ be helping to destroy that tree ! :-(
>
> Dave> Sewer complications?
> Dave> Well a tree's gotta eat what a tree's gotta eat. :-)
>
> Dave> Seriously, don't be a tree killer - find another solution,
> Dave> please!
>
> Why?
>
> I don't want to disprove the thread on how nice and polite this
> newsgroup is but I really think people go overboard on issues like
> this.
? ? ? Overboard?
> I'm assuming that the reason that maple tree is there is because
> someone planted it. Maybe they planted it in a bad place. What's
> wrong with removing it and maybe planting another one in a better
> place?
Okay, okay. If growing trees is that easy . . .
> Should every tree ever planted be considered sacred and can never be
> removed? Some people don't think ahead 10 years or 50 years when they
> plant a tree. Some of those trees are in bad places and will need to
> be removed.
This tree was, as I recall, a curbside tree.
It seems the city thinks that's a good place for it.
> I don't think organic gardening, preserving the environment, etc.
> means you have to sit there and helplessly watch a tree destroy a sewer
> (thereby possibly allowing raw sewage to pollute the area) or just
> let tree roots crack our house foundation or whatever other problem a
> tree might cause.
With the curbside location, there's no threat to the house.
Just to the sewer. I think it's worth looking into alternatives
first, rather than just _assuming_ the tree's gotta go.
The original poster didn't say anything about alternatives,
so we readers might not think of looking for them. But it
doesn't hurt to check out other possibilities and maybe save
10 years or 50 years of growing time.
eud...@mcvax2.d48.lilly.com
There are directions on the can on how to use it. You put it down the toilet
and it kills the roots that are in the sewer line, but it does NOT kill the
tree, mess us septic tanks or pipes, or create other problems. It worked for
me (Wisteria roots).
Judy E.
Julian Cash
was offered a free tree, any variety I wanted, by the local
neighborhood improvement people. Well, I got all excited, all I
needed was my landlords permission. I left a message on his
answering machine, mentioning that street trees improve property
values, are pretty, etc. He came over the next day and took me
on a little walk. He showed me a spot on the sidewalk which was
a different color than all the other spots, and a big patch of
the street which was a different type than the rest of the street.
This, he explained, was a very pretty tree that grew big and
strong and healthy. After 30 years, it ripped up five feet of
sidewalk, and entangled itself quite thoroughly with the sewer
and water supply. The city government charges YOU for any damage
caused by YOUR TREE to city property and expects YOU to hire
the labor. This single tree ended up costing 6,000$, for cutting
it down for repairing the water pipes, for ripping up the street,
for replacing the sidewalk, for tree removal, for the city dump
fee. This is why a wayward tree must die. It does no good to
explain to the tree that it must stop reaching towards the easy
water, and shrugging off the pavement. Trees have their own
agenda.
Now, as to how the tree must be killed, remember that
this tree is a living being, and that it must be killed humanely.
Girdling will kill a tree, but it is a very slow and agonising
death. It frequently takes YEARS for a tree to die from girdling.
I suggest some type of poison. You might ask a tree surgeon how
it could be done. Rec. gardeners are real smart, but you need
a tree expert to advise you.
Good luck, and give my regards to your tree.
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JACKJACK
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